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Post by c on Aug 25, 2022 22:56:42 GMT
Even Freddie Prinze Jr weighed in, implying Punk doesn't show anyone respect or " the dignity you'd expect in a workplace " And, he's probably not wrong. You could easily see him smirking his way through life, gatekeeping and nitpicking. I mean, who randomly calls AJ Styles racist or disowns a midget over a phone number? Hey, Punk keeps his locker room door open ok? What more do you want from him? But Punk was like this since 2002. He is cliquish backstage, keeps to himself mostly and makes snide remarks about people he feels is beneath him. His whole I'm Better than You thing was not really ever a gimmick. Honestly, after what he did to Colt, what more do people need to see the type of guy Punk is?
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Post by c on Aug 25, 2022 22:57:51 GMT
Are we heading towards LOL AEW territory? Think we are getting a lot closer to AEW self-destructing than anyone wants. Be kind of hilarious to see Tony in the end have to sell the library for AEW and RoH to Steph.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 25, 2022 23:01:32 GMT
Samoa Joe could too if he wants to. Joe tried to do this in TNA before Hogan and Bischoff came along. Yeah he got slapped by Kevin Nash pretty good but still he tried. I think Daniel Bryan is too low key to really do this. But Samoa Joe could probably give a fuck if he wanted to. Honestly, I fucking forgot Joe was even employed... Not like he is around at all <.< There are a ton of people who could step up, it just seems no one wants to. And frankly, why should they when the Bucks and Omega literally have proper titles, and there is a layer of agents, and now assistants to Tony and shit?  Shit is like getting to be a failed bureaucracy with just layers of management that does nothing. Fucking HHH and Pritchard must be laughing themselves hoarse hearing about Tony thinks he is the next Heyman with this level of disorganization. It looks like the conspiracy theory might be true - WWE releases talent, AEW overloads it's roster and collapses under the pressure of keeping it all in order. But what do you expect when you go into business with 3 unlikable twats, 2 that built a career on smugness and a group that created a company out of spite.
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Post by Emperor on Aug 25, 2022 23:07:30 GMT
The more I read about Sammy and Kingston the more I take Sammy's side. It does sound like Sammy cut a rather generic heel promo bashing his opponent in character, and Kingston flipped his shit. Kingston even admitted to acting unprofessionally. That's great that he did that, hopefully they can come to peace with one another.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 25, 2022 23:27:58 GMT
Are we heading towards LOL AEW territory? Think we are getting a lot closer to AEW self-destructing than anyone wants. Be kind of hilarious to see Tony in the end have to sell the library for AEW and RoH to Steph. I think it's time to revisit my anti-AEW posts prophesying how AEW will eat itself alive. But really, this is early day stuff - probably a learning experience for a young company, an inexperienced promoter and perhaps some poor leaders (Kenny, The Bucks) and it's probably a wake up call to suggest it's time to get this shit in order and build some good culture or it will fester. And the reality is the new car smell has worn off, and the novelty of it being an alternative or different doesn't hold the same weight it did a year or so ago when perhaps talent could ignore some of the teething problems or idiosyncrasies working for Cocaine Tony.
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Post by Blindy on Aug 25, 2022 23:42:52 GMT
The more I read about Sammy and Kingston the more I take Sammy's side. It does sound like Sammy cut a rather generic heel promo bashing his opponent in character, and Kingston flipped his shit. Kingston even admitted to acting unprofessionally. That's great that he did that, hopefully they can come to peace with one another. His statement came off pretty good but the problem is he's been in so many problems with AEW. Along with what c mentioned last page, he also had the Sasha Banks rape comments, no showing Impact who wanted to use him in an angle, proposing to his then girlfriend only to go cheating on her for Tay Conti etc. Just a shit ton of immaturity and I guess Kingston felt disrespected that Guevara would mouth off with a live mic, gimmick or not, without reaching out to Kingston or someone close to him. Kingston probably got tired of the act and just hit him, not the best way to go about things, especially for a 40+ year old but if no one is going to reign Sammy in, he thought he had to do it. Guevara is quickly becoming the new Juvy Guerrera, just fighting with everyone and getting his ass handed to him.
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Post by c on Aug 25, 2022 23:46:49 GMT
They picked Eddie to work him because the last four programs he did had problems and they hoped Eddie could handle him.
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Post by Blindy on Aug 25, 2022 23:50:03 GMT
They picked Eddie to work him because the last four programs he did had problems and they hoped Eddie could handle him. Man is 29 years old, at some point and time, he just needs to grow up or get out. Not even Randy Orton took this long to get the immaturity out of his system. If this was Dante Martin or something, sure but dude is almost my age. :lol:
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 25, 2022 23:53:28 GMT
They picked Eddie to work him because the last four programs he did had problems and they hoped Eddie could handle him. They picked Eddie Kingston to handle things? LOL - sounds like they were hoping Eddie would hit him.
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Post by c on Aug 25, 2022 23:55:55 GMT
For real. And you can tell he was at fault because if you read his reply, he never apologized or accepted any fault. That is a telltale sign someone is in the wrong. When your statement comes out after someone's and they already accepted fault, and you double down on doing nothing wrong, you are likely a fucking asshole.
I suspect sooner or later someone is going to suggest having someone go out and bury Sammy on live TV breaking everything on his do not mention in promos list. Either that have someone stiff the living shit out of him in the ring.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 25, 2022 23:56:06 GMT
They picked Eddie to work him because the last four programs he did had problems and they hoped Eddie could handle him. Man is 29 years old, at some point and time, he just needs to grow up or get out. Not even Randy Orton took this long to get the immaturity out of his system. If this was Dante Martin or something, sure but dude is almost my age. :lol: When the boss hasn't slept for 2 days, and is dancing like a spaz at your wedding - you're safe. And he hasn't shit in a bag yet, so there's time..
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 25, 2022 23:57:57 GMT
For real. And you can tell he was at fault because if you read his reply, he never apologized or accepted any fault. That is a telltale sign someone is in the wrong. When your statement comes out after someone's and they already accepted fault, and you double down on doing nothing wrong, you are likely a fucking asshole. I suspect sooner or later someone is going to suggest having someone go out and bury Sammy on live TV breaking everything on his do not mention in promos list. Either that have someone stiff the living shit out of him in the ring. IT'S FEEDING TIME!
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Post by Blindy on Aug 25, 2022 23:59:35 GMT
Man is 29 years old, at some point and time, he just needs to grow up or get out. Not even Randy Orton took this long to get the immaturity out of his system. If this was Dante Martin or something, sure but dude is almost my age. When the boss hasn't slept for 2 days, and is dancing like a spaz at your wedding - you're safe. And he hasn't shit in a bag yet, so there's time.. Sammy reminds me of a lesser Juventud Guerrera, someone is just going to get paid on the downlow to snuff him. One of the talents on AEW Dark or something that aren't signed. Not sure if Guevara will get in on that or want to avoid that but he has to be careful. Imagine if Benoit was in a locker with Guevara...
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Post by c on Aug 26, 2022 0:01:52 GMT
They picked Eddie to work him because the last four programs he did had problems and they hoped Eddie could handle him. They picked Eddie Kingston to handle things? LOL - sounds like they were hoping Eddie would hit him. I know right? Either that report I read was utterly full of shit, or they really do not know Eddie. His Hero feud was so revered because it was super intense. It was super intense because the two fuckers would random start shooting on each other peaking with Eddie choking Hero out in PWG forcing people at ring side to break the hold.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 26, 2022 0:10:17 GMT
When the boss hasn't slept for 2 days, and is dancing like a spaz at your wedding - you're safe. And he hasn't shit in a bag yet, so there's time.. Sammy reminds me of a lesser Juventud Guerrera, someone is just going to get paid on the downlow to snuff him. One of the talents on AEW Dark or something that aren't signed. Not sure if Guevara will get in on that or want to avoid that but he has to be careful. Imagine if Benoit was in a locker with Guevara... Blake of "Blake and Murphy" and " Forgotten Sons " damn near killed a man on dark with a shot to the back of the head...
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Post by bodyslam on Aug 26, 2022 1:55:39 GMT
Are Big Show and Mark Henry still around? I assumed they were brought in to be mentors.
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Post by c on Aug 26, 2022 2:16:27 GMT
They got real WWE talent, they do not need those two now <.<
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 26, 2022 2:40:54 GMT
Are Big Show and Mark Henry still around? I assumed they were brought in to be mentors. They hired them to add weight to their 'Fight Forever' roster...
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 26, 2022 2:46:52 GMT
This is all very disappointing news but the item that strikes me the most is Thunder Rosa. I can't imagine how toxic the environment must be that Thunder Rosa feels she has to hide in a bathroom to avoid the wrath of her coworkers. It's tragic. I had hoped that kind of thing died a long time ago, but clearly not. Dropping a double foot stomp from the top rope into someone's head might be a good reason to hide in the bathroom.
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Post by RT on Aug 26, 2022 3:41:21 GMT
Are Big Show and Mark Henry still around? I assumed they were brought in to be mentors. Big Show works backstage and sometimes does commentary on Elevation and Mark Henry does commentary on Rampage and does the main event interview on the show.
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Post by Blindy on Aug 26, 2022 5:12:27 GMT
Bobby Fish has randomly been snarky in regards to CM Punk's Muay Thai and striking. Punk has one of the most dangerous standup today among talent in either AEW or WWE, Fish might be one of the few better though. Shame he is never healthy to ever show it but he's going after Punk pretty bad.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 26, 2022 7:09:09 GMT
" most dangerous " you must be joking Blindy
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Post by RT on Aug 26, 2022 13:00:30 GMT
Most dangerous “looking” maybe. But like Danielson exists. So does Garcia, PAC, Miro… but even though Punk has gotten slow in his age but his technique on strikes is still good.
People forget that Bobby Fish is also a giant asshole not worth listening to because he hangs out with Kyle O’Reilly and everyone likes him.
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Post by Blindy on Aug 26, 2022 13:19:33 GMT
" most dangerous " you must be joking Blindy I'm exaggerating but I do think he can take on some of the wrestlers/parkour wrestlers. Of course the Lesnar's, Hager's, Benjamin's, Lashley's.....no. Glenn Gilberti/Disco Inferno proving why he's such a badass. I know he's the court jester of the IWC but sometimes he brings some cold hard truths.....Eddie Kingston got butthurt on social media :lol:
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Post by Emperor on Aug 26, 2022 16:04:40 GMT
Glenn Gilberti/Disco Inferno proving why he's such a badass. I know he's the court jester of the IWC but sometimes he brings some cold hard truths.....Eddie Kingston got butthurt on social media :lol: That is certainly one way to interpret that dialogue...not my take at all.
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Post by Big Pete on Aug 26, 2022 16:11:33 GMT
" most dangerous " you must be joking Blindy I'm exaggerating but I do think he can take on some of the wrestlers/parkour wrestlers. Of course the Lesnar's, Hager's, Benjamin's, Lashley's.....no. Glenn Gilberti/Disco Inferno proving why he's such a badass. I know he's the court jester of the IWC but sometimes he brings some cold hard truths.....Eddie Kingston got butthurt on social media Trolls aren't bad-asses.
Still, he got Eddie to bite and Disco is far from alone in that assessment.
I don't think everybody needs to be in shape. Foley is one of my all-time favourites and he found other ways to get over. But even Foley recognised when he needed to put in a big performance that he had to take better care of himself and would point that out when guys like Hogan would attack him.
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Post by iron maiden on Aug 26, 2022 16:39:20 GMT
I don't think it takes much to get Eddie to bite.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 17:00:46 GMT
He's always biting those cheeseburgers!
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Post by RT on Aug 26, 2022 17:22:33 GMT
I’m at least glad we’re at a point where a disagreement that gets out of hand is dealt with in a professional manner. If this were 20 years ago, Eddie and Sammy would have been forced to fight in the locker room, winner gets to shit in the loser’s mouth and also gets a push.
And I just saw Sammy’s statement. Holy shit what a man-child. He really is just a piece of shit. Completely outed Eddie Kingston after he admitted fault and is currently defending Sammy on twitter this morning.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 17:30:08 GMT
Guevara also completely sucks. He’s the most generic boy band looking creep I’ve ever seen, he can’t talk, he can’t work, what’s the point? If Guevara is a pillar no wonder it’s starting to crumble.
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