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Post by pduh on Jun 16, 2023 18:04:16 GMT
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Post by c on Jun 16, 2023 18:19:41 GMT
I presume the Elite and Hangman want little to do with him. Punk is getting his own show, and they can just not work that show. Means they will only have to deal with him several times a year at PPVs.
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Post by c on Jun 23, 2023 23:10:14 GMT
Team Punk saying if anyone has a problem with him they should go talk to him like a man. Um, isn't that how this entire mess started...
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Post by NATH45 on Jun 23, 2023 23:16:28 GMT
Am I the only one paying attention? AJ Lee rarely posts on Instagram, yet she has dropped set after set of photos over the last few days showing how insanely fit she is.
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Post by RT on Jun 23, 2023 23:26:26 GMT
CM Punk and Skye Blue are going to win the Owen Tournament and when that little minx from Chicago with the knee-high socks, backwards hat, coloured hair and Converse Chucks gets a little too close.....
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Post by NATH45 on Jun 23, 2023 23:33:02 GMT
" hey Phil, let's go to the gym "
" na, I'm busy thinking about how much I hate The Young Bucks "
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Post by Lony on Jun 23, 2023 23:36:51 GMT
I'd love for AJ Lee to show up, doubt it'll happen though, but would be cool to see.
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Post by RT on Jun 24, 2023 0:51:54 GMT
" hey Phil, let's go to the gym " " na, I'm busy thinking about how much I hate The Young Bucks " “I swear if you yell out Ace Steel’s name while you cum one more time I’m leaving you for Brody King.”
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Post by NATH45 on Jun 24, 2023 0:59:49 GMT
" hey Phil, let's go to the gym " " na, I'm busy thinking about how much I hate The Young Bucks " “I swear if you yell out Ace Steel’s name while you cum one more time I’m leaving you for Brody King.” I'd imagine he screams out " Chiiiiiiicaaaago! " And then Chelsea Dagger plays.
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Post by c on Jun 24, 2023 21:02:45 GMT
So, odds are Jericho is the source that called Punk a ticking time bomb after dynamite? Another name noticeably absent from Collisions.
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Post by c on Jun 25, 2023 4:19:14 GMT
Punk suing Billi Bhatti. This gonna open a huge can of worms, as the lawsuit is over him calling Punk a pedophile. Likely gonna try to drag some rats / indy girls from IWA and Chicago out as Punk was known to make his way through lockerrooms.
Sounds like he was behind the revival of the Bikini Girl clips.
Tony better hope that no one will come forward and admit they fucked a young Punk while underage. Or Punk will be a very costly guy he needs to sideline after all.
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Post by c on Jun 25, 2023 16:47:06 GMT
Punk with a strange ally. Kingston talking to the NY Post stood up for Punk saying the locker room is not divided and Punk helps the company. Guess during their feud they put things behind them. Also revealed that Tony asked people what shows they want to work apparently to try to separate people who do not want to work together. nypost.com/2023/06/25/eddie-kingston-on-aew-forbidden-door-cm-punk-injury-return/
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Post by NATH45 on Jun 25, 2023 20:23:13 GMT
It's business.
You can make a lot of money and get lot of screen time being the Piper to Punk's Hogan.
Eventually The Bucks will be on an island alone wrestling mid card guys that don't know better.
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Post by c on Jun 26, 2023 14:53:12 GMT
That seems to be the attitude now with most, Punk is money. That said he is not that much money. Ratings over time will tell exactly what he brings in but it is not Hogan numbers despite Punk acting like the next Hogan.
And without the Bucks Punk would still be retired doing MMA commentary. Elite started AEW. People keep trying to revise this and pretend All In never happened, but end of the day if Bucks, Kenny and Cody did not put a ton of cash on the line for All In there would be no AEW. They proved they could run a fed, which was how they got Tony involved. And they ran fine for years without Punk, and ran fine for the majority of Punk's run where he sat home hurt. And when the contract is up, Punk is gonna be sent walking as it is clear now he does not justify his price. Bucks will be in AEW until they retire or leave for WWE.
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Post by NATH45 on Jun 26, 2023 19:55:12 GMT
I'd almost argue, that Cody was first a huge influence on The Elite's choice to start their own fed. Yeah, Cody took the challenge from Uncle Dave but you can also see a shift in how they presented themselves once Cody's involvement in the group was in full effect.
Whatever happened, they've done extremely well. I've taken a long time to come around and arguably a lot of what the company had been producing was terrible, but 2023 has been pretty good so far.
The challenge to Punk and the measure of his success now in AEW shouldn't be " the house " or ratings, it should be whether he can make new stars.
He's rolling with FTR - ok, they're already potentially the best tag team in the company, he's clashing with White, who's already a star. Take a Yuta or Takeshita, even a Sammy type guy and see how well he can put them over..
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Post by c on Jun 26, 2023 20:13:09 GMT
Cody did not have the connections to put together All In or the following. Bucks were the only ones who could have made it happen since they had BTE and worked with everyone. They let Cody be the face, but guys came for the Bucks and crew and not him. Cody was the least popular of the core Elite leading into All In though.
Punk not gonna be making new stars. If he was able to make new stars, he would have already. His ego means he needs to win though, and beating people rarely makes them stars.
Best case is Punk forms a trios with FTR. But most likely a new belt will be introduced for him to win and he will go on a long title run on Collision.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 20:16:10 GMT
Making stars is the hardest thing to do in wrestling and it’s all about booking and presentation. Punk can do the best job he can facilitating the push of a new talent, but if it isn’t well booked and well dressed it won’t take. It’s Tony Khan’s job and I’m not sure there very much evidence he’s up to the task. At least while he continues to insist on booking it all himself.
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Post by c on Jun 26, 2023 21:17:07 GMT
Guys can make stars by giving the booker a starting moment or standout match. Angle excelled at this shit. But Punk is no Angle.
I do love that Punk wanted a program with Joe so he gets a single match. He wanted a program with Jay so he gets a single match. If this is what Punk thinks programs should be we are in trouble, Punk will be running train on the roster in meaningless matches.
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Post by NATH45 on Jun 26, 2023 23:15:43 GMT
If anything, I believe Cody saw what the group was capable of. All the pieces were there, but for me Cody was likely looking around seeing a very popular group of guys, under a very cool brand in Bullet Club and seeing all of this hype amongst the independent scene at the time - yet, it lacked some direction. These guys would be running through NJPW otherwise.
What was the likely alternative, ROH manages to pull together some money and books All In and becomes what AEW is today? Likely not.
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Post by c on Jun 27, 2023 4:50:33 GMT
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Post by KJ on Jul 6, 2023 23:36:09 GMT
Reading this thread, and I'm not sure who has a more unhealthy obsession of disliking Punk: c or Alvarez.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 14, 2023 22:43:49 GMT
Who beats up Punk first, Hangman or Ryan Nemeth?
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Post by Blindy on Aug 14, 2023 22:53:18 GMT
Who beats up Punk first, Hangman or Ryan Nemeth? Nick Nemeth the next time Punk shows up to WWE backstage. Unlike Ryan, Dolph has made more than enough money in his lifetime and would still clean Punk with zero regrets with his amateur wrestling background. Trying to bully the brother of a well-established wrestler seems pretty crazy and gets you probably confronted the next time you show up to said brother's place of work. Unlike Miz who will take a handshake and be cool, I don't think Dolph will probably play ball.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 14, 2023 23:15:06 GMT
Eventually someone is throwing a stiff clothesline.
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Post by c on Aug 15, 2023 0:01:26 GMT
Reports are Matt Hardy and Christopher Daniels also told not to show up to Collision.
Head of talent relations apparently cannot be on Punk shows now. Hangman also barred obviously.
Also great to see Punk trying to fight people backstage already. Truly a changed man. I really do hope he fucks All In now.
Of course there is NO DRAMA backstage at AEW and all of the guys commentating on this are full of shit. That was the official line last week right? The Punk promo postcard clearly was CGI.
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Post by Blindy on Aug 15, 2023 0:04:20 GMT
Reports are Matt Hardy and Christopher Daniels also told not to show up to Collision. Head of talent relations apparently cannot be on Punk shows now. Hangman also barred obviously. Am waiting for Reby Hardy vs Punk & AJ Mendez. Maybe Jeff Hardy gets his revenge years later on Punker.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 15, 2023 0:04:58 GMT
This :
" PWTorch reports that when CM Punk returned to AEW after his hiatus, Tony Khan stood up backstage in the gorilla position with his headset on & started pumping his fist & chanting “C.M. Punk!” enthusiastically as Punk walked by. "
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Post by c on Aug 15, 2023 0:07:17 GMT
Wonder if AEW gonna blame LuFisto for this week's AEW drama too...
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Post by Blindy on Aug 15, 2023 0:07:50 GMT
I'm expecting Jim Cornette to make a 1 off on Collision and manage CM Punk & FTR at this point or maybe do commentary with Jim Ross for a show. It's gotten to that point. :lol:
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 15, 2023 0:09:33 GMT
Are FTR getting paid to protect Punk backstage? I hope that's true.
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