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Post by Big Pete on Aug 16, 2023 8:10:35 GMT
If you ever needed proof of how ridiculous Pro Wrestling media is... CM Punk makes one off-hand remark when the cameras stop rolling and now it's wall to wall coverage. Does any of this actually interest anybody? The only reason this is a story is because it's CM Punk and he drives clicks. If AEW were smart they'd invent their own version of the hotline because that would seemingly draw more interest than their television. Bring on Wembley already...
That's what we should be talking about and it really speaks volumes that there's more interest in Punk paying out Page for not selling toys.
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Post by c on Aug 16, 2023 12:31:50 GMT
Not clicks, cash. SRS has these stories behind his patreon paywall. Why he is wrong more than he is right, his number one goal is profit not journalism.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 16, 2023 18:45:56 GMT
I guess I think of the message it sends to the locker-room - TK will prioritise the feelings of CM Punk over loyal soldiers like Christopher Daniels and sure, even Hangman. Who is as close to being a founder as it gets without actually being one. And even veterans like Hardy, who a lot of young talent idolise.
Reports are, whether Punk is right or wrong it's not worth making his enemy list at the moment. Which isn't a great culture, when an individual can dictate who goes where and why depending on his mood.
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Post by c on Aug 16, 2023 20:25:30 GMT
Start tracking who disappears from TV without being injured. Those will be the ones who Punk has a problem with.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 20, 2023 7:34:19 GMT
Just to summarise..
Vince McMahon - Old man who doesn't understand what's cool and hip.. said a then, nearly middle-age CM Punk. Triple H - The stooge that implements the old man's ideas. Stephanie and Shane McMahon - The doofus kids of Vince McMahon. John Laurinaitis - For doing his job... badly. Teddy Hart - Understandable. AJ Styles - AJ's a racist. The Hardys - Jeff's a crackhead. The Rock - Some sort of resentment towards Rock for his success. The Miz - Also, some sort of resentment towards Miz for his success, and needing to suck a blood covered dick. Undertaker - 'Taker told Punk to dress nicer as Champion. Punk backchatted about Cena and his jorts. Kenny Omega - Brawl Out. The Young Bucks - Brawl Out. Hangman Page - Brawl Out. Christopher Daniels - Brawl Out. Ryback - Bad aim. Or great aim, depending on where you stand. Chris Jericho - Jericho is a liar and a stooge. Jon Moxley - Mox's ideas suck. Eddie Kingston - Understandable. Kaz - Traci Brooks. Bryan Alvarez - Maria Kanellis. Dolph Ziggler - Likely... AJ Lee. Also, The Miz and Ziggler mocking Punk's MMA " fight " Ryan Nemeth - The brother of the guy that took his wife's virginity. And for calling Punk soft, and for not greeting Punk properly.... Lita - AJ Lee. Beth Phoenix - Just another casualty. Colt Cobana - Long story. Jack Perry - " This is my show, go back to Dynamite kid " Hornswoggle - He asked Punk for someone's phone number. Bobby Fish - For calling out Punk's MMA ability. Anyone in UFC or MMA who doesn't know what " Kempo-Karate " is, nor cares. KENTA - He stole KENTA's finisher without asking and KENTA couldn't use it in WWE. KENTA = SAD. Elijah Burke - Punk buried him in an interview. Hulk Hogan - Hogan didn't show Punk the right amount of respect to him in the locker-room.. yes, take it with a grain of salt. Roman Reigns - Accused WWE of making The Shield about Reigns. Punk didn't want Reigns in The Shield - because he created The Shield after all.
Did I miss anyone...
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Post by RT on Aug 21, 2023 13:53:09 GMT
Most of those are accurate but I’ll say two things:
-his resentment towards The Rock was more because they brought The Rock in to end his historic WWE Championship reign, which resulted in him once again not main eventing Wrestlemania despite being the longest reigning champ in modern history at the time. His anger was not just towards The Rock himself. I see where Punk is coming from but also like..who cares? It’s The Rock. Sorry about your luck bro.
-he was right about The Undertaker. What an asshole thing to say. It’s ok for you to be a tattooed biker as WWE Champ but Punk can’t be himself? Fuck off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2023 20:25:09 GMT
Just seems like Punk had a tough time understanding the hierarchy. "Why does he HE get to do this?" Because he's HIM and you're YOU. "But I'm here full time"
Because you HAVE to be. That's the difference.
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Post by c on Aug 21, 2023 20:37:30 GMT
Punk understood it, he does did not think he needed to earn his place. Was always his problem. And continues to be his problem. The rules just do not apply to Punk.
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Post by c on Aug 28, 2023 16:35:08 GMT
So for Brawl In looks like Punk started to argue with Perry as he came back after his match, the it escalated and Perry said something what are you gonna do about it, and Punk shoved him, he shoved back, then Punk choked him. Perry was then sent home.
So Punk started the argument, Punk turned it physical, and Perry was to blame.
Punk holed up with security after his match then left.
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Post by c on Aug 28, 2023 19:17:41 GMT
Reports now are Punk and Perry are both suspended, and Punk may not return. He threatened to quit before he went out to wrestle Joe.
Belief is internally all the blame will be put on Perry, as while people see Punk sharing some of the blame, no one really wants to deal with him.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 28, 2023 19:27:32 GMT
Regardless of whether it's Perry's fault this time there's a common theme with every issue. Punk.
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Post by c on Aug 28, 2023 19:30:32 GMT
The common problem is clearly the rest of the roster. Just fire everyone and everything will be fine.
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Post by c on Aug 28, 2023 19:32:42 GMT
Wonder what even will have the next Punk brawl. Brawn or Nothing? Full Brawl? Forbidden Brawl? Brawlution?
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Post by CM Punk'd on Aug 28, 2023 19:59:59 GMT
Wonder what even will have the next Punk brawl. Brawn or Nothing? Full Brawl? Forbidden Brawl? Brawlution? DreamBrawl ? The new Inoki show in October?
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Post by c on Aug 28, 2023 20:19:58 GMT
Just forward thinking from Tony to name the shows expecting a Punk fight backstage.
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Post by RT on Aug 28, 2023 20:41:06 GMT
Where are you seeing that Punk started the fight? Everything on wreddit is saying Perry started it. Punk is still getting shit for fighting but if he didn’t cause it then I don’t know why he’s the problem for standing up for himself.
Sounds more like Jack Perry has a problem and thought “hey I know an easy way to get rid of this guy.”
Also what the fuck is Tony paying all these “vets” for? Why are Paul Wight and Mark Henry and countless others sitting around backstage collecting paychecks if they aren’t stepping in and handling shit like this?
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Post by c on Aug 28, 2023 20:53:12 GMT
Kellar. Punk made a comment to Perry as he came back from his segment, they argued, Perry eventually said something like what you gonna do about it, Punk pushed him, he pushed back, Punk "de-escalated" things by putting him in the choke. Sounds like Punk also is the source.
A lot of people are saying Perry should not have said the real glass line in his segment, told Punk to do something about it while they were arguing after Punk said he would quit then and there, and that Jack should not have passed gorilla after his segment.
The report makes it clear that Punk was deescalating things with the choke, which I find very telling, as who the fuck would claim choking someone is deescalating except for the person doing the choking or someone very biased towards them. Punk so leaked this.
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Post by c on Aug 28, 2023 21:06:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2023 22:18:01 GMT
Nodq still kicking!!!
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Post by Emperor on Aug 28, 2023 23:09:40 GMT
Much like the Punk/Elite brawl, we'll never find out what really happened.
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Post by Leper Messiah on Aug 28, 2023 23:31:33 GMT
Big mean Punk. How dare he not want guys to pointlessly cut themselves up with glass.😂
Punk can be a douche, but has earned his spot in wrestling. Perry, on the other just seems like a douche in general (the way he was acting at a fan fest some time ago proves that).
It'd be nice if Khan were to finally show some guts, and suspend both guys. But we all know that would mean he'd have to be a boss, and not everyone's friend.
It's kind of telling when the most entertaining things in AEW is what goes on backstage, and never what goes on in the ring.
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Post by spladle125 on Aug 28, 2023 23:54:54 GMT
They are both suspended. Tony don’t mess around. He is as close to Bill Watts as the come. Unlike Vince, Tony is a hard ass like Watts and won’t put up with shut.
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Post by Leper Messiah on Aug 29, 2023 0:16:34 GMT
They are both suspended. Tony don’t mess around. He is as close to Bill Watts as the come. Unlike Vince, Tony is a hard ass like Watts and won’t put up with shut. Because he totally suspended the Elite and Punk after "Brawl Out".😂
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Post by Blindy on Aug 29, 2023 0:41:56 GMT
Much like the Punk/Elite brawl, we'll never find out what really happened. I feel like people on behalf of Jack Perry's behalf will speak who have nothing to lose like people already out of the company. I assume Marko Stunt or Janela or whomever for instance. I find it funny that Punk never tried to do this on say Bobby Fish who tried to break out of a 3 count off the GTS, probably because Fish could defend himself in a fight. He'd punk out Jungle Boy though I am disappointed Anna Jay didn't whoop Punk's ass if anything. Where the heck was she? -_-.
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Post by RT on Aug 29, 2023 1:04:57 GMT
They are both suspended. Tony don’t mess around. He is as close to Bill Watts as the come. Unlike Vince, Tony is a hard ass like Watts and won’t put up with shut. Because he totally suspended the Elite and Punk after "Brawl Out".😂 Technically he did. From what we were told, The Elite just came back sooner because Punk was injured. But do we know that for sure? No.
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Post by Baker on Aug 29, 2023 1:52:56 GMT
Giving myself the old Barry Horowitz pat on the back for nearly 20 years of "CM Punk is the 21st Century version of 90s Shawn Michaels!" drum beating. Rarely have I been more right. I'll even go a step further and declare Punk the new champion. Yep, that's right. Punk has actually surpassed 90s HBK for the top spot on the all time Locker Room Cancer list. At least HBK had his 2000s redemption arc. Punk only gets worse with age.
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Post by c on Aug 29, 2023 2:07:17 GMT
Because he totally suspended the Elite and Punk after "Brawl Out".😂 Technically he did. From what we were told, The Elite just came back sooner because Punk was injured. But do we know that for sure? No. Is it a punishment when nothing changes? Be like suspending students for the summer in school. /// Assume split PPVs are coming next to keep Punk completely separated from the Dynamite roster moving forward. Cause if not, on a shorter clock for the next one as the originals get sick of this shit always happening at this major events, which will just trigger Punk to assault people.
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Post by c on Aug 29, 2023 2:24:51 GMT
You really got to wonder how the Manager of Talent Relations, that was added after Brawl Out, could allow this stuff to happen. Oh wait, he is banned from Collision because Punk does not like him...
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 29, 2023 2:47:04 GMT
Bring back Wrestler's Court.
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Post by c on Aug 29, 2023 2:49:48 GMT
And now reports that Punk told people he hates working for AEW and he has been dodging Tony.
Still unsure if Punk will return.
And once again, the source is likely Punk.
Punk refuses to work with talent relations so up to Tony himself to deal with him.
Guess we will see him next year. Easy few million for him working a few weeks a year then getting suspended and staying at home the rest.
If Tony was a man, he would say Heelz is competition and pull Punk from the show until he gets his shit together. Tony has him for five more years, as that year he was out Tony gets back.
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