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Post by Leper Messiah on Sept 2, 2023 21:37:24 GMT
So, with Punk gone, now all AEW shows will return to being PWG with a budget?😂
Getting closer to the "Rise and Fall of AEW" on Peacock.
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Post by c on Sept 2, 2023 21:42:22 GMT
And ratings will likely barely change. Only people complaining really are people who do not watch the shows anyway.
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Post by RT on Sept 2, 2023 22:17:54 GMT
I don't think a non-compete matters if you get fired. But I'm not a lawyer.
If you check the recent posts on wreddit, someone just threw up a short video they took at Wembley. Punk saluted the crowd and said "bye" after his match. He knew his time in AEW was done.
SRS just reported that The Elite will be on Collision tonight.
MJF should appear with his world title and just show it to the crowd and leave.
I absolutely loved watching CM Punk do his thing and I'm glad AEW got the juice out of his return to the ring. But apparently while other wrestlers tend to mature and become wise veterans in their old age, CM Punk continues to act like an entitled teenager. Good riddance bud. Thanks for the good matches, I guess.
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Post by c on Sept 2, 2023 22:22:05 GMT
US labor law non-competes usually hold if you quit, get laid off or get fired.
Also this was a for cause termination which triggers the for cause legal shit in the contract, which is also likely a punitive non-compete for the duration of the contract. This stuff is just standard practice for companies that use them.
Avoids allowing people doing shit like Punk just did to jump to their competition.
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Post by RT on Sept 2, 2023 22:23:34 GMT
Absolute best possible thing they could do tonight: have Jack Perry open the show and say "Who's your daddy, Chicago!?"
You want to build him as a heel? You have a golden opportunity slapping you in the face.
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Post by RT on Sept 2, 2023 22:24:47 GMT
US labor law non-competes usually hold if you quit, get laid off or get fired. Also this was a for cause termination which triggers the for cause legal shit in the contract, which is also likely a punitive non-compete for the duration of the contract. This stuff is just standard practice for companies that use them. Avoids allowing people doing shit like Punk just did to jump to their competition. That makes sense to me. I guess if it wasn't in place, Punk could just get himself fired then show up at Raw on Monday. Which would be bad for AEW for sure.
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Post by c on Sept 2, 2023 22:27:04 GMT
Punk will end up in court fighting various parts of the contract. For the foreseeable future though, not likely WWE will touch him knowing non-compete may in play. Rest cannot afford him.
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Post by RT on Sept 2, 2023 22:33:01 GMT
When the dust settles on this we're going to have to have a "What if CM Punk didn't jump into the crowd and break his foot?" conversation. He was on top of the world at that moment. No backstage issues being reported, everyone seemed to be getting along, AEW was continuing on an upward trend, then CM Punk and FTR walk into an arena to a massive pop...and CM Punk breaks his foot. Nothing was ever the same after that.
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Post by c on Sept 2, 2023 22:35:55 GMT
Punk started problems in every fed he worked for, was only a matter of time. AEW was not a unicorn.
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Post by Emperor on Sept 2, 2023 22:40:43 GMT
I'm with Todd. A courageous and essential decision by Tony Khan. It doesn't matter if there are Chicago shows, if an employee does something that merits being fired, he gets fired. The end.
I also agree this is a great chance for Jack Perry to get super heat.
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Post by RT on Sept 2, 2023 22:40:45 GMT
Also since it hasn't been said here yet, it sounds like accounts of Punk starting the fight and lunging at Tony Khan were accurate, and the videos of the incident back that up. SRS and Meltzer have both said as much.
To summarize, since we've heard 500 stories since Sunday (yes, this all happened six days ago, not six years ago like it feels):
-Punk stepped up to Perry -Perry said he was just trying to get heat -Punk sucker punched Perry when he tried to push past him, then choked Perry out -Tony Khan was screaming at Punk to let him go -Monitors got knocked over and after Punk let go, he lunged at Khan and shouted "I quit." -Joe was able to talk Punk down and make sure the match happened -Punk didn't stay long after the match and had security around him the whole time
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Post by c on Sept 2, 2023 22:57:22 GMT
Jack is not at Collision. Bryan and the Elite are.
Said Punk supporters have the sads, but most of the roster is happy he is gone finally.
The era of CM Hogan finally is ending.
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Post by Ed on Sept 2, 2023 23:03:44 GMT
He's the BEST IN THE WORLD... at acting like a bitch. So long, Phil.
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Post by NATH45 on Sept 2, 2023 23:05:04 GMT
Good fucking riddance!
I feel sorry for AJ and his ugly dog who will have to deal with this.
#freeaj #freelarry
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Post by c on Sept 2, 2023 23:05:05 GMT
Savage cut.
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Post by Blindy on Sept 2, 2023 23:18:22 GMT
I'm with Todd. A courageous and essential decision by Tony Khan. It doesn't matter if there are Chicago shows, if an employee does something that merits being fired, he gets fired. The end. I also agree this is a great chance for Jack Perry to get super heat. Hard disagree. This was a problem created by Khan by refusing to putting out the flame and instead playing middle of the road towards both parties until his hand got forced. Khan as in his statement, didn't want to do this. And unless he goes out to the audience first and foremost to set the record straight, it is cowardice telling your talent to brunt the potentially angry crowd who bought tickets months in advance with CM Punk booked in advance, only to not see him. Not due to injury or something personal like loss of family etc. but because he was suspended and then fired the day/weekend of. Vince gets a shit ton of flack but for any controversy under his rule(Benoit murder/suicide with Vince's opening saying we will not discuss Benoit after the tribute show when news came out or the recent allegations of sexual misconduct he had with a former employee), Vince most of the time began the show to set the record straight and not have a wrestler do it on his behalf. And rewarding Perry by going off script with a measly slap on the wrist is the definition of terrible leadership/punishment. Max Caster got suspended for weeks for his Biles comment but Jack Perry goes off script at a PPV and ends up outshining the hard work of others last Sunday and is a top heel? Nah.
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Post by NATH45 on Sept 2, 2023 23:32:42 GMT
I wouldn't be against Punk showing up at Payback.
Picture this, Cody Rhodes is on The Grayson Waller Effect banging on about being Champion... cue the static, and then Cult of Personality hits.
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Post by RT on Sept 2, 2023 23:35:27 GMT
I'm with Todd. A courageous and essential decision by Tony Khan. It doesn't matter if there are Chicago shows, if an employee does something that merits being fired, he gets fired. The end. I also agree this is a great chance for Jack Perry to get super heat. Hard disagree. This was a problem created by Khan by refusing to putting out the flame and instead playing middle of the road towards both parties until his hand got forced. Khan as in his statement, didn't want to do this. And unless he goes out to the audience first and foremost to set the record straight, it is cowardice telling your talent to brunt the potentially angry crowd who bought tickets months in advance with CM Punk booked in advance, only to not see him. Not due to injury or something personal like loss of family etc. but because he was suspended and then fired the day/weekend of. Vince gets a shit ton of flack but for any controversy under his rule(Benoit murder/suicide with Vince's opening saying we will not discuss Benoit after the tribute show when news came out or the recent allegations of sexual misconduct he had with a former employee), Vince most of the time began the show to set the record straight and not have a wrestler do it on his behalf. And rewarding Perry by going off script with a measly slap on the wrist is the definition of terrible leadership/punishment. Max Caster got suspended for weeks for his Biles comment but Jack Perry goes off script at a PPV and ends up outshining the hard work of others last Sunday and is a top heel? Nah. This is some of the most hilarious mental gymnastics I've ever seen.
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Post by c on Sept 2, 2023 23:39:08 GMT
Tony could go out say fuck Chicago you all can kiss my ass, and never run there again and it would barely affect AEW metrics. Chicago did not get him 81k fans.
And despite people saying this clearly is a sign that AEW is falling apart, they did just draw 81k fans which makes it seem like they are doing something right.
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Post by Da Gr8t I Is on Sept 2, 2023 23:42:06 GMT
This has to be the worst run i've seen since The Ultimates Warriors run in 96 lol
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Post by NATH45 on Sept 2, 2023 23:45:53 GMT
Tony could go out say fuck Chicago you all can kiss my ass, and never run there again and it would barely affect AEW metrics. Chicago did not get him 81k fans. Chicago is his market.
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Post by c on Sept 2, 2023 23:50:26 GMT
Collision tonight is set to hold up to 5000 fans. Said yesterday 1500 seats unsold.
Been advertising Punk until today. He could not move 5000 tickets even.
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Post by NATH45 on Sept 3, 2023 0:08:06 GMT
Bring back Wrestlers Court.
" Bully Ray isn’t one to pull punches. Especially on Busted Open as he gave his thoughts on Jack Perry and his beef with CM Punk.
“Jungle Boy is an ignorant young boy who doesn't understand this industry," Ray said. "He doesn't know better. He's a young, brash kid who doesn't know better. And I'm sure the dirt sheets are gonna have a field day with this one. But he needs to be sat down by a veteran like a Taz, like a J.R., like a Billy Gunn, one of those guys, and made to understand and educate him as to why you don't say those things on camera for a multitude of reasons."
"He doesn't know any better," Ray reiterated. "He's flexing when he shouldn't be flexing, and flexing for no reason. Back in the day, there was a way to handle young boys like Jack Perry. Some of those ways still apply. And I'm not talking about beating the s*** out of him, but back in the day, that's what would have happened”
Source: Wrestling Inc.
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Post by RT on Sept 3, 2023 0:11:07 GMT
Blindy TK made sure your post was out of date before even being an hour old :lol:
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Post by Kilgore on Sept 3, 2023 0:30:00 GMT
Guys like Punk you just want to say, "What's your fucking deal, man?" Like he's won in life, the run is (reportedly) going well (on television), he has unprecedented control over not only his own programs, but an entire show and ... he just can't help being a fucking asshole.
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Post by NATH45 on Sept 3, 2023 0:49:27 GMT
There's reportedly a secret meeting happening right now, the locker-room is eating from Mindy's Bakery and hoisting Jack Perry in the air.
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Post by Blindy on Sept 3, 2023 1:04:38 GMT
Alright, alright Tony did good here. I'll eat my fucking words. You win this time RT Emperor
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Post by Leper Messiah on Sept 3, 2023 1:04:54 GMT
Collision tonight is set to hold up to 5000 fans. Said yesterday 1500 seats unsold. Been advertising Punk until today. He could not move 5000 tickets even. Was anyone dumb enough to actually think Punk was going to be at the show?😂 Even a mark has their limits of stuff they'll fall for.
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Post by NATH45 on Sept 3, 2023 1:27:57 GMT
Every week a member of the roster (of those people who hate CM Punk) should squash a jobber from Chicago named Phil or Brooks.
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Post by Blindy on Sept 3, 2023 1:58:05 GMT
*bangs head* STOOOPID.
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