Aug 3, 2020 18:46:54 GMT CM Punk'd said:

Aug 3, 2020 18:42:05 GMT NATH45 said:

Tay Conti is reportedly All Elite.

Yeah.  She's teaming with Anna Jay for the tag tournament tonight.

/they face nyla/ariana in the first round. Im hoping for shenanigans that lead to ariana eating the pin. I'm much more interested in possible anna jay / dark order stuf than the posibility of nyla winning a tag tournament on her own

I don't think it's fair that Brandi and Allie get to stay together as a team for this tournament. I guess you get parental preferential treatment when you are a company figurehead.

Deonna Purrazzo and Tasha Steelz or Taynara and Ariane. Hmm...🤔

Match 1: It was exactly what I expected.

Match 2: Was not what I expected. I enjoyed both Tay and Anna Jay. Both are new pick ups so those where some good picks. Wish Anna would have stated her connection with the Dark Order. Nyla did some solid stuff.

Aug 3, 2020 23:16:18 GMT CM Punk'd said:

I don't think it's fair that Brandi and Allie get to stay together as a team for this tournament. I guess you get parental preferential treatment when you are a company figurehead.

Rules? What company did you think you were watching?

Aug 3, 2020 23:16:18 GMT CM Punk'd said:

I don't think it's fair that Brandi and Allie get to stay together as a team for this tournament. I guess you get parental preferential treatment when you are a company figurehead.

What are you talking about? Didn't you watch, there was a legit draw with no tampering by brandi, at least direct your anger at the right wrestler. Geezer louise.

First match was all sorts of not good. Allie may be a better character than wrestler, but at least in tna she had some 'ok' matches, her and brandi were not good here

Ariana was not good. I quite enjoyed tay in particular here, she was crisp and on point with her striking.

I was ok with both the interviews after, brandis obviously going slow heel turn, not sure what to make of allie here though. And no, Anna Jay did not need to tell us outright her deal with dark order, why would you give away the details in a story all at once, slow burn character development is just fine.

I hope Penelope losing means they have something else for her to do.

Aug 3, 2020 23:44:10 GMT @admin said:

Deonna Purrazzo and Tasha Steelz or Taynara and Ariane. Hmm...🤔

Aew's female talent scouting and recruitment really pales in comparison to even a smaller promotion like Impact. Brandi can't holda candle to Madison in this department lol .

With AEW they seem to only look for people who're friends with the higher-ups or trainees at one of the affiliated schools, or WWE castoffs.

There are so many indy talents who they could have filled out the tourney with , some of who  actually have experience in tag teams.

Some of their pickups are really just puzzling why of anyone from Booker T's promotion did they pick Rache of all people? Like there are a good 5-10+ women from that area that would be better as an enhancement talent/potentials prospect than her. 

I do think Taymara has potential still though . I think she's just going to be hurt by not really having a place to train and not being able to get enough reps/matches to grow as a wrestler because everything is shut down.

dex02 these nobodies are cheap and easy to manipulate*

*I mean book fairly in an all inclusive AEW sense where the booker is also a worker and men wrestle as women.

Aug 4, 2020 1:56:33 GMT NATH45 said:

dex02 these nobodies are cheap and easy to manipulate*

My point is there are talents out there with almost as little exposure but who are far more talented , and less green than the ones they ended up using 

Again in Booker T's promotion alone there are several better choices.
If you are a promotion with a big tv deal and aspirations to compete with WWE why are you sandbagging a division with super green talents who can't really contribute much to your product?

I was okay with AEW building around unfinished products like Britt as you can see the potential , and someone like her doesn't really seem that far away. But it's another thing entirely when you are using people with a year or less of experience.   Even NXT homegrown trainees usually take longer than that to even start being put on tv. 

I know the excuse is  that Covid/injuries screwed things up since a lot of the female talent lives overseas , but honestly the covid problems are of their own making. Having so much of your division not be full-time employees/residents f the US was a bad idea from the start, and now it has really come back to bite them with borders closing for the most part with the pandemic.   

Aug 4, 2020 2:17:10 GMT dex02 said:

Aug 4, 2020 1:56:33 GMT NATH45 said:

dex02 these nobodies are cheap and easy to manipulate*

My point is there are talents out there with almost as little exposure but who are far more talented , and less green than the ones they ended up using 

Again in Booker T's promotion alone there are several better choices.
If you are a promotion with a big tv deal and aspirations to compete with WWE why are you sandbagging a division with super green talents who can't really contribute much to your product?

I was okay with AEW building around unfinished products like Britt as you can see the potential , and someone like her doesn't really seem that far away. But it's another thing entirely when you are using people with a year or less of experience.   Even NXT homegrown trainees usually take longer than that to even start being put on tv. 

I know the excuse is  that Covid/injuries screwed things up since a lot of the female talent lives overseas , but honestly the covid problems are of their own making. Having so much of your division not be full-time employees/residents f the US was a bad idea from the start, and now it has really come back to bite them with borders closing for the most part with the pandemic.   

AEW is the biggest con since WCW. The Elite are working the Kahns and getting all their friends pay days.

Aug 4, 2020 2:48:21 GMT NATH45 said:

Aug 4, 2020 2:17:10 GMT dex02 said:

My point is there are talents out there with almost as little exposure but who are far more talented , and less green than the ones they ended up using 

Again in Booker T's promotion alone there are several better choices.
If you are a promotion with a big tv deal and aspirations to compete with WWE why are you sandbagging a division with super green talents who can't really contribute much to your product?

I was okay with AEW building around unfinished products like Britt as you can see the potential , and someone like her doesn't really seem that far away. But it's another thing entirely when you are using people with a year or less of experience.   Even NXT homegrown trainees usually take longer than that to even start being put on tv. 

I know the excuse is  that Covid/injuries screwed things up since a lot of the female talent lives overseas , but honestly the covid problems are of their own making. Having so much of your division not be full-time employees/residents f the US was a bad idea from the start, and now it has really come back to bite them with borders closing for the most part with the pandemic.   

AEW is the biggest con since WCW. The Elite are working the Kahns and getting all their friends pay days.

Are you really not enjoying the product? Lots of fun wrestling to watch every episode? What's the problem?

Aug 4, 2020 4:17:04 GMT nazzer said:

Aug 4, 2020 2:48:21 GMT NATH45 said:

AEW is the biggest con since WCW. The Elite are working the Kahns and getting all their friends pay days.

Are you really not enjoying the product? Lots of fun wrestling to watch every episode? What's the problem?

Generally don't like Cody. Or The Bucks. Or Brandi. Or most of the roster really. Generally unlikable roster for the most, who are all generally unremarkable.

That's my thoughts.

I'd be better of tuning in, 3 years from now when shit is sorted. Much like TNA's first few years.

Aug 4, 2020 5:09:16 GMT NATH45 said:

Aug 4, 2020 4:17:04 GMT nazzer said:

Are you really not enjoying the product? Lots of fun wrestling to watch every episode? What's the problem?

Generally don't like Cody. Or The Bucks. Or Brandi. Or most of the roster really. Generally unlikable roster for the most, who are all generally unremarkable.

That's my thoughts.

I'd be better of tuning in, 3 years from now when shit is sorted. Much like TNA's first few years.

Yeah. it's far from perfect, especially the women's division. For all their faults, I think their doing a reasonable job presenting a more wrestling centric show, and I enjoy most of what they offer. To each their own. 

Taynara looked the best out of all four.

What I don’t understand is why women like Ariane with minimal ring experience always go to head scissors and other easily botched moves for the wow factor. I’d be more impressed if she pulled off something more simple.

Aug 4, 2020 10:55:13 GMT surrender said:

Taynara looked the best out of all four.

What I don’t understand is why women like Ariane with minimal ring experience always go to head scissors and other easily botched moves for the wow factor. I’d be more impressed if she pulled off something more simple.

If in doubt, just throw a punch. It's that simple girls. It's like every female talent is trained by luchadores. 

Aug 4, 2020 12:00:01 GMT NATH45 said:

Aug 4, 2020 10:55:13 GMT surrender said:

Taynara looked the best out of all four.

What I don’t understand is why women like Ariane with minimal ring experience always go to head scissors and other easily botched moves for the wow factor. I’d be more impressed if she pulled off something more simple.

If in doubt, just throw a punch. It's that simple girls. It's like every female talent is trained by luchadores. 

Honestly, Taynara’s strikes are exactly why I thought she looked the best out of everyone in that match. I hope she’s really able to hone her craft somewhere.

I'm still high on Anna Jay,I just think she has 'it'. She looks amazing, has the age going for her and seems really likable. Hate that she's doing Dark Order stuff because I think she is a natural babyface.

When did these matches happen? What am I missing? AEW dark hasn't aired yet has it?

Aug 4, 2020 18:26:58 GMT Emperor said:

When did these matches happen? What am I missing? AEW dark hasn't aired yet has it?

They're running the tag tournament separately Monday on Youtube.

I skipped Brandi and Allie's match because whatever but I did enjoy the other one. Taynara did well and her and Anna do look like a genuine team:

Aug 4, 2020 23:08:00 GMT @admin said:

Aug 4, 2020 18:26:58 GMT Emperor said:

When did these matches happen? What am I missing? AEW dark hasn't aired yet has it?

They're running the tag tournament separately Monday on Youtube.

I skipped Brandi and Allie's match because whatever but I did enjoy the other one. Taynara did well and her and Anna do look like a genuine team:

Had you watch the first one the second would have looked even better.

So I think this was the first night AEW promoted AEW heels on the main show. I could be wrong I fast forward a lot of the show. Most matches on the show go 20 minutes. There one woman's match with prematch segment with Brit and company, Big Swole entrance, and match about 4 minutes.

Aug 6, 2020 5:24:35 GMT X-zero said:

So I think this was the first night AEW promoted AEW heels on the main show. I could be wrong I fast forward a lot of the show. Most matches on the show go 20 minutes. There one woman's match with prematch segment with Brit and company, Big Swole entrance, and match about 4 minutes.

It's just getting embarrassing now. 



Being defensive over the criticism of the way they are handling the women's division instead of addressing it and making appropriate changes has been such a bad look. They desperately need someone other than Kenny and Brandi involved.

Everythings just a mess right now.

The amount of time the women get each week is laughable, especially compared to NXT, Impact, and even Raw and SD. NWA's hour-long web show usually had more female content than AEW on a weekly basis

Like I said earlier their talent scouting and recruitment seems piss-poor. Rebel has admittedly done well working as a character with Brit but she isn't young and will never be a good wrestler. Why waste resources and time on her when there are younger and better talents who can play that role and have the upside to be something even more?

I agree that them being so defensive is a problem too. Everyone seems to be trying to pass off the blame.

Who would have thought that no one in AEW knew how to book?

They should find a way to commit to ar least two segments per week for the women. I get they don't have many women available with travel restrictions right now, but there's enough to do more than one segment in a three hour show.

Can someone explain this glorified onlyfans thing Brandi is shilling for female fans only.. for $50?

Aug 7, 2020 0:37:13 GMT NATH45 said:

Can someone explain this glorified onlyfans thing Brandi is shilling for female fans only.. for $50?

It's really compounding the current Twitter shitstorm. How can you promote a membership club type thing based on "inclusivity and empowerment" when your company is clearly not delivering that to a level near what was expected? I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with this idea, but it cannot be divorced from the broader situation.

Brandi's distanced herself from the TV booking (whilst simultaneously taking credit for the tag tournament) defending Heels by saying that it's a marketing/PR exercise and using the rather bizarre "not all female wrestling fans are fans of women's wrestling" line.

And while typing this I see that she's deleted her Twitter. Yikes. 

www.ringsidenews.com/2020/08/05/aew-reveals-price-exclusive-benefits-for-new-heels-community/

This link shows what the perks of the $49 dollar annual fee get you.

Apparently Brandi spent a good portion of a day interacting with fans on twitter regarding the AEW Heels thing, and she did not come across well. Today she has deleted her twitter account.

It's not ok to harass celebrities on twitter, but I don't understand why the celebrities keep engaging with the masses when it will only result in the masses insulting them because of internet trolling

Aug 7, 2020 1:09:48 GMT nazzer said:

Apparently Brandi spent a good portion of a day interacting with fans on twitter regarding the AEW Heels thing, and she did not come across well. Today she has deleted her twitter account.

It's not ok to harass celebrities on twitter, but I don't understand why the celebrities keep engaging with the masses when it will only result in the masses insulting them because of internet trolling

I didn't exactly go trawling through her mentions but everything I saw was constructive criticism - people pointing out the obvious problems with how they are handling the women's division and how it's completely failing in terms of meeting expectations of what a wrestling promotion should be doing in 2020, let alone one that professed to be inclusive and progressive. 

The only trolling I saw was from Brandi's simps who tried to turn it into a racial issue. 

Aug 7, 2020 1:21:38 GMT @admin said:

Aug 7, 2020 1:09:48 GMT nazzer said:

Apparently Brandi spent a good portion of a day interacting with fans on twitter regarding the AEW Heels thing, and she did not come across well. Today she has deleted her twitter account.

It's not ok to harass celebrities on twitter, but I don't understand why the celebrities keep engaging with the masses when it will only result in the masses insulting them because of internet trolling

I didn't exactly go trawling through her mentions but everything I saw was constructive criticism - people pointing out the obvious problems with how they are handling the women's division and how it's completely failing in terms of meeting expectations of what a wrestling promotion should be doing in 2020, let alone one that professed to be inclusive and progressive. 

The only trolling I saw was from Brandi's simps who tried to turn it into a racial issue. 

My comment was based off one or two retweeted comments from her that I didn't care enough to remember. She seemed to be engaging in a way that came off like she was letting the haters take up space in her head. Not healthy