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Post by thereallt on Dec 13, 2019 20:12:41 GMT
Scarface was #12 on my list While I do love Scarface it wasn't top 5 material like Terminator, Die Hard, or Empire Strikes Back,
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Post by CM Punk'd on Dec 13, 2019 20:17:25 GMT
FUDGE!!!
I fucking forgot all about the two Star Wars sequels! UGH!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 20:42:00 GMT
I don't look at Scarface as an "80's" movie. It was made in the 80's, but that's it. I didn't know about this, but I hope John Hughes is well represented. Shermer, IL for life.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 14, 2019 0:29:13 GMT
Really getting sick of Scarface showing up on lists , and shocked it made the cut here. I've talked before how it used to be one of my favorites that I soured on over the years ... Tony is still a great character and endlessly quotable and fun but the overall movie to ME suffers and isn't an easy rewatch. It's more of a fast forward to the iconic parts and skip the rest. So yeah it missed my personal list , it made the initial round and I ended up cutting it. I just don't want to watch it anymore. I was getting ready to hate this post but liked and agreed with the first third, so stopped reading
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 14, 2019 0:29:42 GMT
I don't look at Scarface as an "80's" movie. It was made in the 80's, but that's it. I didn't know about this, but I hope John Hughes is well represented. Shermer, IL for life. You mean John Landis?
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Post by iron maiden on Dec 14, 2019 0:40:34 GMT
I didn't even know Scarface was an 80's movie. It certainly did not make it on my list.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 14, 2019 0:44:03 GMT
I mean isn't Scarface an 80s 80s movie though? It's about rampant cocaine rage in Miami Beach
And wall street yuppie like materialism
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Post by Ness on Dec 14, 2019 0:46:16 GMT
Love Scarface. I'll admit it's one of those glad I experienced it once, but no desire to relive movies... but the original go was amazing. Course I haven't submitted a list in 20 rounds so I can't say anything really.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 14, 2019 0:49:22 GMT
Love Scarface. I'll admit it's one of those glad I experienced it once, but no desire to relive movies... but the original go was amazing. Course I haven't submitted a list in 20 rounds so I can't say anything really. But you did run that GOAT countdown about cereal
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Post by Ness on Dec 14, 2019 0:58:20 GMT
Love Scarface. I'll admit it's one of those glad I experienced it once, but no desire to relive movies... but the original go was amazing. Course I haven't submitted a list in 20 rounds so I can't say anything really. But you did run that GOAT countdown about cereal All I'm hearing with this post is PW needs more food related threads. Will get right on that.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 14, 2019 1:06:34 GMT
But you did run that GOAT countdown about cereal All I'm hearing with this post is PW needs more food related threads. Will get right on that. Need cereal
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Post by Ness on Dec 14, 2019 1:36:13 GMT
All I'm hearing with this post is PW needs more food related threads. Will get right on that. Need cereal Cure that lactose issue yet? Though I suppose you can live vicariously through Milk Money in a weird 90's countdown. Assuming it's top 99 of course...
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 14, 2019 2:27:57 GMT
Cure that lactose issue yet? Though I suppose you can live vicariously through Milk Money in a weird 90's countdown. Assuming it's top 99 of course... Man I got that good LACTAID shit
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Post by Shootist on Dec 14, 2019 6:28:27 GMT
Scarface didn't make my list either. At 3 hours long it's not a go to movie from the decade but it is like a Al Pacino "greatest hits" of sorts. I can definitely see where UT is coming from though. I don't look at Scarface as an "80's" movie. It was made in the 80's, but that's it. I didn't know about this, but I hope John Hughes is well represented. Shermer, IL for life. You mean John Landis? Movies from both Johns made my list.
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Post by UT on Dec 14, 2019 16:09:31 GMT
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Post by UT on Dec 14, 2019 16:10:45 GMT
I've heard of Blue Velvet but never seen it , to say David Lynch really isn't my style would probably be an understatement. Except that one movie that's nothing like a David Lynch movie.
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Post by Lionheart on Dec 14, 2019 17:35:15 GMT
Scarface is a fantastic film and obviously iconic. Despite being really well made and me having placed it on many lists, I didn't personally enjoy it THAT much. It was more of a thing where I really appreciated it but it just isn't quite my style. It was still a great watch, just not one of my favorites that I enjoy as much as some other phenomenal classics of its ilk. So, it did not place on my list this time. There was just so many classic cheesy fun 80s movies for me to justify it here over them. Sure, they aren't as technically well crafted, but their stories are epic and amazing and I love them. Scarface has to take a back seat. Really getting sick of Scarface showing up on lists , and shocked it made the cut here. I've talked before how it used to be one of my favorites that I soured on over the years ... Tony is still a great character and endlessly quotable and fun but the overall movie to ME suffers and isn't an easy rewatch. It's more of a fast forward to the iconic parts and skip the rest. So yeah it missed my personal list , it made the initial round and I ended up cutting it. I just don't want to watch it anymore.
Of all the criticisms you could have a movie, I've got to say "it wasn't that rewatchable after seeing it dozens of times over years" is one of the lightest. I know this is not standard for most people, but I have only seen the vast majority of my favorite films a single time.
I know a lot can be gained by a few rewatches but I just almost always would rather see something new to increase my exposure to just...everything in general, so I gain more knowledge and see more new and interesting things.
The concept of a movie needing to be more than rewatchable a dozen times in order to qualify for a list sounds very odd to me. I'll definitely be in the minority with this next statement, but I think rewatchability should not be a factor whatsoever in placing a movie and they should stand alone on their merit of a single viewing as a creative work.
In any case, the fact that it took years of rewatches, which is something most people would never even experience, to be soured on it certainly should not have any ramifications on its merits to place on the list.
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Post by Lionheart on Dec 14, 2019 17:41:27 GMT
I've heard of Blue Velvet but never seen it , to say David Lynch really isn't my style would probably be an understatement. Except that one movie that's nothing like a David Lynch movie. Funnily enough, I was literally thinking as I placed Blue Velvet on my list and sent the list to you "Man, I bet this is really not UT's style...it probably won't place on the list since it's sure not getting his vote." :lol:
I can totally understand that as Lynch movies are weird as fuck. I feel it takes a very particular kind of mind to enjoy a movie like Blue Velvet and honestly am not even sure why I enjoyed it given how weird it is. Just something about it, in the back of my mind, was thinking "this style is awesome" and I couldn't quite place why. I wouldn't expect anyone else to have that feeling.
While I wish you could enjoy the movie like I did, I don't think that's happening for something like this so I wouldn't even recommend it.
That being said, I am very glad that it must have got some other votes and placed here. It's nice to know that some really well made classics, even super weird and eccentric ones like Blue Velvet, still have decent exposure and resonate with people to some extent today.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 14, 2019 17:47:29 GMT
Blue Velvet definitely doesn't deserve the praise it gets IMO. But that's coming from someone who doesn't "get" David Lynch at all.
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Post by RT on Dec 14, 2019 18:02:56 GMT
Who the frick voted for Blue Velvet? That movie is so weird. I don’t mind Scarface making it where it did. I don’t like the movie but you can’t deny the impact it’s had on people. Some people worship that movie so whatever. Let em have it. And 🤯 is right. A crime movie about the rise of a Latino cocaine lord in Miami is about as 80s as it gets.
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Post by iron maiden on Dec 14, 2019 18:21:05 GMT
When I think of Iconic 80's movies neither Scarface nor Blue Velvet come to mind for me.
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Post by Lionheart on Dec 14, 2019 18:52:54 GMT
When I think of Iconic 80's movies neither Scarface nor Blue Velvet come to mind for me. This is definitely true.
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Post by UT on Dec 14, 2019 19:08:56 GMT
No it's not , far be it for me to stick up for Scarface after my first post about it but the idea that it doesn't scream 80's culture or isn't an iconic 80's movie is a bit asinine. The 80's Miami beach/cocaine culture was huge and all over media at the time so it has clear and obvious connections to the decade of cocaine and drug dealers in beach shirts - Miami Vice was a show built on this and Escobar remains infamous for what he was able to do on the time. Tony Montana was the big screen version of that and Miami's violent drug culture exemplified. No different that Hippy culture being attached to the 60's.
Furthermore the idea it isn't iconic is silly. I said in another countdown that despite my gripes with the actual film you can't deny it's impact on pop culture even to this day. Tony Montana is an icon , especially in urban entertainment and is endlessly quoted/imitated to this day. Hell you can still go to gift stores and buy Scarface merchandise/shirts/posters sitting right next to the rest of the 80's iconic film merch. I can't tell anyone the impact it had on their circles and life but if you are talking about overall impact on pop culture and ESPECIALLY hip hop culture you can't deny Scarface's iconicism. So stop it. Especially you @im who still probably have a crush on Eric Estrada or something. Lady. :@
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Post by Lionheart on Dec 14, 2019 19:16:53 GMT
Okay, it probably isn’t true. While I know it is iconic in general, I also did not have the idea in my mind that “iconic 80s movie” connected to Scarface but I also was not alive in the 80s. It probably resonates a lot more with people who were.
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Post by Shootist on Dec 14, 2019 20:51:39 GMT
Blue Velvet didn't place on my list but am glad to see it pop up here. Dennis Hopper put in an incredible performance as Frank Booth.
It doesn't get much more menacing than this:
On the Scarface thing, surely younger people could see the connection to 80's culture just by playing Vice City.
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Post by Lionheart on Dec 14, 2019 22:08:43 GMT
On the Scarface thing, surely younger people could see the connection to 80's culture just by playing Vice City. Coming from someone who works at Rockstar, I had no idea Vice City was set in the 80s 😅
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Post by Big Pete on Dec 15, 2019 1:48:58 GMT
Blue Velvet was my #5.
A lot of these older countdowns really come down to exposure more than anything else. As somebody who got into Lynch around the release of Inland Empire, I naturally had to check out one of his more celebrated movies. Lynch or no Lynch, this is my type of movie - a neo noir thriller with a wide eyed protaganist mixing it with one of the most psychopathic villains in history. Dennis Hopper gives an amazing performance as an unhinged crime lord and his range through out the picture is one of the aspects that sets it apart.
Love the style of the film and the Graduate vibes going on.
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Post by Lionheart on Dec 15, 2019 2:20:19 GMT
I thought #5 sounded a bit low, but I just checked my list and I actually had it at #6. It does look like the right spot for it though. I'm interested to see what movies actually end up on top.
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Post by RagnarokMike on Dec 15, 2019 9:53:03 GMT
Not one I've seen, I like Lynch, so there's a 50/50 chance I see it eventually.
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Post by PB on Dec 15, 2019 14:45:25 GMT
I haven't seen Blue Velvet and Scarface sucks. So I'm ready for the next entry.
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