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Post by 🤯 on Aug 16, 2021 0:31:09 GMT
Why are people against vaccines still at this point? Just spite of they're otherwise intelligent enough to understand the importance of vaccines?
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Post by iNCY on Aug 16, 2021 0:42:38 GMT
The vaccine has just become the latest hat for the crazies to wear. It's also a sign that our trust in politicians and news media is at an all time low. It's like Pavlovs dog and eventually people burn out and stop listening.
If say here it's a combination of both.
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Post by Ness on Aug 16, 2021 0:44:56 GMT
Why are people against vaccines still at this point? Just spite of they're otherwise intelligent enough to understand the importance of vaccines? It feels too embarrassing to get one at this point. It's like buying a yearbook during lunch on the last day of school. Sure there's the memories inside, but too little too late to get much in the way of sigs. Probably a bad analogy.
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Post by System on Aug 16, 2021 1:12:43 GMT
Went to doctor to get checked out as still having chest pains after AZ. Got sent back to emergency.
one guy here with pains in his leg/drooping in his face from AZ. 3rd guy had every symptom under the book and said he had a seizure at some point also (no history of them).
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Post by iNCY on Aug 16, 2021 1:17:16 GMT
Went to doctor to get checked out as still having chest pains after AZ. Got sent back to emergency. one guy here with pains in his leg/drooping in his face from AZ. 3rd guy had every symptom under the book and said he had a seizure at some point also (no history of them). What did they say? Have you had an ECG and X-Rays?
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Post by System on Aug 16, 2021 1:27:53 GMT
Went to doctor to get checked out as still having chest pains after AZ. Got sent back to emergency. one guy here with pains in his leg/drooping in his face from AZ. 3rd guy had every symptom under the book and said he had a seizure at some point also (no history of them). What did they say? Have you had an ECG and X-Rays? Had ECG/blood tests couldn’t find anything last time I was here (a week ago). Blood pressure is good also. Haven’t done x-days yet, they should soon because it could be from a match I had a few weeks and it’s aggravated it something, not a doctor so I honestly have no idea.
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Post by 🤯 on Aug 16, 2021 1:29:36 GMT
Considering System is a pro wrez, shouldn't you just always assume it's a staph infection? Feel like pro wrezzies are forever and always passing the staph back and forth.
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Post by System on Aug 16, 2021 1:32:00 GMT
Considering System is a pro wrez, shouldn't you just always assume it's a staph infection? Feel like pro wrezzies are forever and always passing the staph back and forth.
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Post by 🤯 on Aug 16, 2021 1:34:01 GMT
Considering System is a pro wrez, shouldn't you just always assume it's a staph infection? Feel like pro wrezzies are forever and always passing the staph back and forth.
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Post by nath45 on Aug 16, 2021 1:40:56 GMT
The vaccine has just become the latest hat for the crazies to wear. It's also a sign that our trust in politicians and news media is at an all time low. It's like Pavlovs dog and eventually people burn out and stop listening. If say here it's a combination of both. Inc, has nailed it. Our politicians in Australia are uniquely incompetent in their own uniquely incompetent way. And as a result, few trust their word. Daniel Andrews the leader of Victoria is an absolute dropkick who has fumbled his way through this entire thing. Queen Gladys Berejiklian - former saviour of the right - leader of NSW, bragged and boasted about her handling of the pandemic while criticising everyone else, but ultimately only saw success out of sheer good luck. Then when shit hit NSW's fan, she slowly fumbled her way into instilling a police state. That and she has appeared in public numerous times not adhering to her own advice. Meanwhile, the Prime Minister is quick to pass the buck, do very little on anything and well.. this afterall is a man, who 3 weeks ago was defending the story he didn't shit himself in a McDonalds. That, and he is probably on holidays overseas again for the 4th time in a year. Speaking of which, when bushfires raged at the start of 2020 he defended flying overseas, not returning as a natural disaster was tearing apart the east coast with #worklifebalance #blessed and then couldn't understand why the entire country thought he was a knob trying to shake the hands of people who just lost everything. The moron is tone-deaf. He's last on Covid, last on climate change. And collectively these 3 couldn't care less about regional, rural or Middle-Australia. Trust in our senior leaders is at an all time low due to poor leadership.
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Post by iNCY on Aug 16, 2021 1:48:13 GMT
The vaccine has just become the latest hat for the crazies to wear. It's also a sign that our trust in politicians and news media is at an all time low. It's like Pavlovs dog and eventually people burn out and stop listening. If say here it's a combination of both. Inc, has nailed it. Our politicians in Australia are uniquely incompetent in their own uniquely incompetent way. And as a result, few trust their word. Daniel Andrews the leader of Victoria is an absolute dropkick who has fumbled his way through this entire thing. Queen Gladys Berejiklian - former saviour of the right - leader of NSW, bragged and boasted about her handling of the pandemic while criticising everyone else, but ultimately only saw success out of sheer good luck. Then when shit hit NSW's fan, she slowly fumbled her way into instilling a police state. That and she has appeared in public numerous times not adhering to her own advice. Meanwhile, the Prime Minister is quick to pass the buck, do very little on anything and well.. this afterall is a man, who 3 weeks ago was defending the story he didn't shit himself in a McDonalds. That, and he is probably on holidays overseas again for the 4th time in a year. Speaking of which, when bushfires raged at the start of 2020 he defended flying overseas, not returning as a natural disaster was tearing apart the east coast with #worklifebalance #blessed and then couldn't understand why the entire country thought he was a knob trying to shake the hands of people who just lost everything. The moron is tone-deaf. He's last on Covid, last on climate change. And collectively these 3 couldn't care less about regional, rural or Middle-Australia. Trust in our senior leaders is at an all time low due to poor leadership. I fall strongly into the camp of people who were beguiled by Gladys and saw her success and competence when history will now show it was good luck. Dan has been unequivocally terrible through the whole pandemic, constantly looking to shift blame to other states, governments and even his own constituents. The big vacuum in Australia at the moment is one of leadership. The left and right parties are so torn between their fringe and centrist elements that they cannot stand for anything without causing their party room to implode. I do believe that most of the criticism of Morrison on the roll-out is not justified, he has been an appalling leader in this crisis, governing by opinion poll and frightened to stand up against the Premiers. The vaccine roll out isn't on him, we should be giving everyone AZ but we can't because some un-elected health officials made a determination that makes no sense. The real tragedy of this crisis is that is shows just how crap our system of government is, Federation and National Government is a joke.
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Post by nath45 on Aug 16, 2021 2:10:55 GMT
It makes you wonder how poorly these people would handle a really terrible situation like a world war or the aftermath of war.
I know it's hyperbolics, but if bombs are dropping and the enemy is ready to storm our beaches, Scott Morrison's leadership doesn't necessarily give me a lot of confidence.
I guess he'll hand the country over to the Yanks and tuck into a margarita on a Hawaiian beach until the whole thing blows over.
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Post by c on Aug 16, 2021 2:20:58 GMT
So the new school year in the US is an epic disaster so far. COVID outbreaks, dead kids, kids scared to go school and now a teacher revolt. Conservative teachers are quitting over having to treat COVID is real and over CRT based equity in education training and liberal teachers are quitting over laws against CRT and not taking COVID seriously. Both sides are also effected by psychotic parents. Expected by the end of the year 15% to 25% will leave the profession. Schools are almost universally facing teacher shortages so this could be devastating, as the teachers that stay now have to work with increased loads, which will then make them more likely to leave as well.
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Post by 🤯 on Aug 16, 2021 2:23:23 GMT
We don't need no education.
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Post by System on Aug 16, 2021 2:27:01 GMT
It makes you wonder how poorly these people would handle a really terrible situation like a world war or the aftermath of war. I know it's hyperbolics, but if bombs are dropping and the enemy is ready to storm our beaches, Scott Morrison's leadership doesn't necessarily give me a lot of confidence. I guess he'll hand the country over to the Yanks and tuck into a margarita on a Hawaiian beach until the whole thing blows over. I naively thought when I was younger if it really hit the fan, our leaders would know what to do and would have the top experts on board to deal with the situation. Now it’s clear they don’t know what they are doing and I think that’s part of the reason so many people have went from somewhat reasonable people lately to conspiracy junkies.
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Post by nath45 on Aug 16, 2021 2:29:07 GMT
Looks as if a curfew will be imposed on Melbourne from tonight.
And, playgrounds closed. That was stipulated very clearly in the report. Numerous times.
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Post by c on Aug 16, 2021 2:43:54 GMT
Case moving to the US on whether or not bans on mask mandates are constitutional. Texas Supreme Court ruled that is constitutional for a state to outlaw mask mandates. Dallas will appeal to the US Supreme Court most likely. If they do, whatever the the Supreme Courts decides for this case will likely becomes the status quo for most of the US. They rule you can ban mask mandates, then most of the US will have masks as optional. They repeal the mask ban, then most of the US will be masked finally.
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Post by System on Aug 16, 2021 2:47:39 GMT
Looks as if a curfew will be imposed on Melbourne from tonight. And, playgrounds closed. That was stipulated very clearly in the report. Numerous times. Guarantee first comment on FB posts is going to be if playgrounds are still open.
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Post by nath45 on Aug 16, 2021 3:16:28 GMT
Looks as if a curfew will be imposed on Melbourne from tonight. And, playgrounds closed. That was stipulated very clearly in the report. Numerous times. Guarantee first comment on FB posts is going to be if playgrounds are still open. Lockdown extended by 2 weeks in Melbourne. Construction down to 25%, 9pm - 5am curfew, no playgrounds, parks, skateparks, nothing. No outdoor recreation at all from midnight. Not only are Melbourne locked down, they're locked down inside.
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Post by @admin on Aug 16, 2021 3:40:35 GMT
The curfew is total bullshit because the government already admitted it was purely a policing measure rather than something that had any basis in public health - but it was unfortunately inevitable when the video of the engagement party went viral.
Unfortunately to back up the chat you guys were having about all politicians being fuckwits, instead of raising this issue in an intelligent manner when basically everyone would be on their side, we instead have the opposition comparing things to Kabul.
Will be interesting to see if the fact that the lockdown is now as harsh as it was at it's peak last year only now without any welfare to support people to stay home - will be any sort of tipping point.
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Post by iNCY on Aug 16, 2021 3:42:21 GMT
Guarantee first comment on FB posts is going to be if playgrounds are still open. Lockdown extended by 2 weeks in Melbourne. Construction down to 25%, 9pm - 5am curfew, no playgrounds, parks, skateparks, nothing. No outdoor recreation at all from midnight. Not only are Melbourne locked down, they're locked down inside. This is just cruel, not a single documented case of outside transmission. Closing down playgrounds? Imagine you live in an apartment complex in a two-bedroom apartment with three small children and you can't take them across the road to go down the slides for two hours a day? It's bloody awful. The worst part is that they are clear that there is no health advice suggesting the curfew... It is admitted to being just "sending a message that this is serious" It's beyond atrocious, I don't recognise my country any more
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Post by iNCY on Aug 16, 2021 3:48:17 GMT
The curfew is total bullshit because the government already admitted it was purely a policing measure rather than something that had any basis in public health - but it was unfortunately inevitable when the video of the engagement party went viral. Unfortunately to back up the chat you guys were having about all politicians being fuckwits, instead of raising this issue in an intelligent manner when basically everyone would be on their side, we instead have the opposition comparing things to Kabul. Will be interesting to see if the fact that the lockdown is now as harsh as it was at it's peak last year only now without any welfare to support people to stay home - will be any sort of tipping point. I am almost totally unaffected, my work continues, but I can see how these lockdowns are affecting my 7yo daughter with home schooling, my parents missing out on their grandchildren. People in society are just breaking down... And for what? Because Dan has tied his ego to the bloody "donut days" I am honestly upset and these things rarely affect me in a way more than I just get annoyed. The engagement party again was a minority community thumbing their noses at the rules of Australia. Absolute disgrace, abide by the rules of the society you are in or piss off. I broke the rules yesterday, I arranged to take my daughters to a park at the coincidentally same time ,my parents were there. So they could watch fully masked their grandkids play in a park for 30 minutes. We all wore masks the whole time... But even this we can't do now because people are just taking the piss. My cousin attempted suicide this week and is in ICU My aunty can't visit her 6 month old grand daughter who is being cared for by her son (uncle of the baby) because of the bloody laws.
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Post by nath45 on Aug 16, 2021 3:55:33 GMT
The curfew is total bullshit because the government already admitted it was purely a policing measure rather than something that had any basis in public health - but it was unfortunately inevitable when the video of the engagement party went viral. Unfortunately to back up the chat you guys were having about all politicians being fuckwits, instead of raising this issue in an intelligent manner when basically everyone would be on their side, we instead have the opposition comparing things to Kabul. If the guys in power are the A-Team, the opposition is the B-Team, and they're awful. I don't necessarily believe the opposition needs to be opposed to everything on the basis they're the opposition - but they should be doing 2 things however, holding the leaders accountability and looking for solutions that can deliver a) covid-safe measures that keep business, schools, etc open b) demanding and obtaining legally the reasons behind the stricter restrictions. Demanding a greater understanding of 'why?' No one in opposition is doing a good enough job raising these concerns. Reality is, most are probably happy not being in the position to make these tough calls.
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Post by nath45 on Aug 16, 2021 4:09:08 GMT
Lockdown extended by 2 weeks in Melbourne. Construction down to 25%, 9pm - 5am curfew, no playgrounds, parks, skateparks, nothing. No outdoor recreation at all from midnight. Not only are Melbourne locked down, they're locked down inside. This is just cruel, not a single documented case of outside transmission. Closing down playgrounds? Imagine you live in an apartment complex in a two-bedroom apartment with three small children and you can't take them across the road to go down the slides for two hours a day? It's bloody awful. The worst part is that they are clear that there is no health advice suggesting the curfew... It is admitted to being just "sending a message that this is serious" It's beyond atrocious, I don't recognise my country any more When asked if, instilling lockdowns and curfews will push people to do the wrong thing. The answer was " if people do the wrong thing, we'll just extend the lockdown " This piece of shit doesn't care anymore. If he did at all. If it extends to regional, this will be the second year in a row we don't get a chance to celebrate my son's birthday. I know that isn't as terrible as some of the other stories out there, but you don't get a do-over, you don't get this time back. In other news : I have my first AZ shot tomorrow.
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Post by @admin on Aug 16, 2021 4:10:55 GMT
I am almost totally unaffected, my work continues, but I can see how these lockdowns are affecting my 7yo daughter with home schooling, my parents missing out on their grandchildren. People in society are just breaking down... And for what? Because Dan has tied his ego to the bloody "donut days" I am honestly upset and these things rarely affect me in a way more than I just get annoyed. The engagement party again was a minority community thumbing their noses at the rules of Australia. Absolute disgrace, abide by the rules of the society you are in or piss off. I broke the rules yesterday, I arranged to take my daughters to a park at the coincidentally same time ,my parents were there. So they could watch fully masked their grandkids play in a park for 30 minutes. We all wore masks the whole time... But even this we can't do now because people are just taking the piss. My cousin attempted suicide this week and is in ICU My aunty can't visit her 6 month old grand daughter who is being cared for by her son (uncle of the baby) because of the bloody laws. I agree with you apart from the unnecessary comments profiling of engagement party, but you already know my thoughts about that. There have been - because of our casual/overt racism. No one is going around calling it the "White Richmond Pub Crawl". There are assholes of all backgrounds. I'll be hoping for the best for your cousin. If the guys in power are the A-Team, the opposition is the B-Team, and they're awful. I don't necessarily believe the opposition needs to be opposed to everything on the basis they're the opposition - but they should be doing 2 things however, holding the leaders accountability and looking for solutions that can deliver a) covid-safe measures that keep business, schools, etc open b) demanding and obtaining legally the reasons behind the stricter restrictions. Demanding a greater understanding of 'why?' No one in opposition is doing a good enough job raising these concerns. Reality is, most are probably happy not being in the position to make these tough calls. Part of the reason we have to endure bad leadership is because there is rarely a viable alternative - but the Victorian Liberals really are the worst of the worst. They can't offer any sort of policy, literally the only time they make any sort of dent is the discourse is when one of them says something moronic. The ALP haven't done a perfect job handling this by any stretch, but I believe wholeheartedly things would have been far worse had these other muppets been in charge. We're getting an indication of that with NSW at the moment, they had the benefit of experience and still fucked things up. They can't even hold a press conference with any sort of competency.
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Post by nath45 on Aug 16, 2021 4:14:35 GMT
When this horse-shit of a life is over, we Aussies need to make the promise to see System wrestle.
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Post by iNCY on Aug 16, 2021 4:59:12 GMT
This is just cruel, not a single documented case of outside transmission. Closing down playgrounds? Imagine you live in an apartment complex in a two-bedroom apartment with three small children and you can't take them across the road to go down the slides for two hours a day? It's bloody awful. The worst part is that they are clear that there is no health advice suggesting the curfew... It is admitted to being just "sending a message that this is serious" It's beyond atrocious, I don't recognise my country any more When asked if, instilling lockdowns and curfews will push people to do the wrong thing. The answer was " if people do the wrong thing, we'll just extend the lockdown " This piece of shit doesn't care anymore. If he did at all. If it extends to regional, this will be the second year in a row we don't get a chance to celebrate my son's birthday. I know that isn't as terrible as some of the other stories out there, but you don't get a do-over, you don't get this time back. In other news : I have my first AZ shot tomorrow. One of the most heart breaking moments for me of our lockdown last year, was it being my daughters 3yo birthday and her coming down the stairs asking when everyone was coming to her party... Broke my heart legit, as in I teared up. Hope you get to celebrate your Son's birthday. And now we take playgrounds off them for no reason? Why? It's just cruel and there is no justifiable reason.
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Post by iNCY on Aug 16, 2021 5:04:26 GMT
I am almost totally unaffected, my work continues, but I can see how these lockdowns are affecting my 7yo daughter with home schooling, my parents missing out on their grandchildren. People in society are just breaking down... And for what? Because Dan has tied his ego to the bloody "donut days" I am honestly upset and these things rarely affect me in a way more than I just get annoyed. The engagement party again was a minority community thumbing their noses at the rules of Australia. Absolute disgrace, abide by the rules of the society you are in or piss off. I broke the rules yesterday, I arranged to take my daughters to a park at the coincidentally same time ,my parents were there. So they could watch fully masked their grandkids play in a park for 30 minutes. We all wore masks the whole time... But even this we can't do now because people are just taking the piss. My cousin attempted suicide this week and is in ICU My aunty can't visit her 6 month old grand daughter who is being cared for by her son (uncle of the baby) because of the bloody laws. I agree with you apart from the unnecessary comments profiling of engagement party, but you already know my thoughts about that. There have been - because of our casual/overt racism. No one is going around calling it the "White Richmond Pub Crawl". There are assholes of all backgrounds. I'll be hoping for the best for your cousin. If the guys in power are the A-Team, the opposition is the B-Team, and they're awful. I don't necessarily believe the opposition needs to be opposed to everything on the basis they're the opposition - but they should be doing 2 things however, holding the leaders accountability and looking for solutions that can deliver a) covid-safe measures that keep business, schools, etc open b) demanding and obtaining legally the reasons behind the stricter restrictions. Demanding a greater understanding of 'why?' No one in opposition is doing a good enough job raising these concerns. Reality is, most are probably happy not being in the position to make these tough calls. Part of the reason we have to endure bad leadership is because there is rarely a viable alternative - but the Victorian Liberals really are the worst of the worst. They can't offer any sort of policy, literally the only time they make any sort of dent is the discourse is when one of them says something moronic. The ALP haven't done a perfect job handling this by any stretch, but I believe wholeheartedly things would have been far worse had these other muppets been in charge. We're getting an indication of that with NSW at the moment, they had the benefit of experience and still fucked things up. They can't even hold a press conference with any sort of competency. The minority make-up of these super-spreader events is the point though... Why bring in harsher rules when the problem is solely that certain people aren't following the rules we already have?? You can be as uncomfortable with profiling them as you like, but the cases are flourishing in communities with a low level of adherence to the rules. I agree with you on the Victorian opposition, I don't think the nation federally or in the states has ever had such a shallow pool of talent on either sides. It is equally terrifying imagining a labor National Government, while I hate their political viewpoints I think Plibersek and Wong are smart.... Then it is an enormous drop to the next level.
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Post by c on Aug 16, 2021 5:32:01 GMT
Thanks in a large part to the US, it is believed that COVID will be endemic. So lockdowns are not an option anymore. The world needs to be prepared for the long haul. And mutations.
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Post by System on Aug 16, 2021 6:17:50 GMT
When this horse-shit of a life is over, we Aussies need to make the promise to see System wrestle.
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