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Post by System on Jan 6, 2022 0:47:25 GMT
You may as well just go to work and spreading it atm then trying to find a rapid test that isn’t price gouged or waiting for hours in PCR queue just so you can get financial aid if you’re a casual worker.
If my workplace couldn’t get any scummier
“This will ease the pressure on the testing centres. There is concerns that this policy is an easy way to get 7 days off work. Therefore the club may request a PCR test result before you return to work.”
What? Rapids give false negatives not false positives if I’m not mistakes so how is that an easy 7 days off work?? Especially when mentioned finding a test is hard and expensive if price gouged.
And Covid has been rampant at my workplace it’s not like anyone made it up.
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Post by NATH45 on Jan 6, 2022 4:36:00 GMT
What I find interesting is you can't get your hands on a RAT test anywhere, yet everyone seems to be able to at the same time... So, System I do to an extent believe a lot of the testing or reporting to employers is driven by those looking for a week off. Similarly when the turn around on PCR testing was 3-4 days, the same individuals where going to get tested every other week - knowing damn well, they'd have to isolate. But this is the game changer, 21,000+ cases in Victoria alone and we're at 93% vaccinated. Until they talk lockdowns again, it's bearable. For now.
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Post by c on Jan 6, 2022 5:26:24 GMT
With the boosters, COVID becomes basically a bad flu with a rare chance of serious effects. If this variant remains dominant lockdowns are needed as much as keeping boosters flowing. This shit is just too contagious as well, and unless you go extreme lockdown, like locking down neighborhoods with no in or out, it will still spread. This will easily pass through masks indoors too, so unless people all move to respirators will still see spread even if best practices are follows.
Looks like in the US though it already wiped delta almost out completely. They said 95% of cases were Omicron. Eyes are on a new French variant, but for now, this is manageable if hospitals can keep up with flow.
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Post by iNCY on Jan 6, 2022 7:39:31 GMT
What I find interesting is you can't get your hands on a RAT test anywhere, yet everyone seems to be able to at the same time... So, System I do to an extent believe a lot of the testing or reporting to employers is driven by those looking for a week off. Similarly when the turn around on PCR testing was 3-4 days, the same individuals where going to get tested every other week - knowing damn well, they'd have to isolate. But this is the game changer, 21,000+ cases in Victoria alone and we're at 93% vaccinated. Until they talk lockdowns again, it's bearable. For now. I'm 50/50 whether I have Omicron right now. Tried to get a rapid test today but nobody has stock.
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Post by c on Jan 6, 2022 11:04:37 GMT
My first symptom was a nasty sore throat that was followed by the shits. I was never able to get tested to confirm though and unsure if I would test positive still since I assume that fever burned it out.
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Post by 🤯 on Jan 6, 2022 13:47:31 GMT
My first symptom was a nasty sore throat that was followed by the shits. I was never able to get tested to confirm though and unsure if I would test positive still since I assume that fever burned it out. Wife's mom is apparently still testing positive on the at-homes going on two weeks after exposure. I think it's maybe been 10 days or so since symptoms started. So... You might still pop hot if knowing for sure would be any mental relief.
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Post by System on Jan 6, 2022 14:02:45 GMT
What I find interesting is you can't get your hands on a RAT test anywhere, yet everyone seems to be able to at the same time... So, System I do to an extent believe a lot of the testing or reporting to employers is driven by those looking for a week off. Similarly when the turn around on PCR testing was 3-4 days, the same individuals where going to get tested every other week - knowing damn well, they'd have to isolate. But this is the game changer, 21,000+ cases in Victoria alone and we're at 93% vaccinated. Until they talk lockdowns again, it's bearable. For now. I understand a lot of people have used it as an excuse to get off work, but at the moment I don’t understand how that would work. Somehow find a rapid test that you may have to pay scalper price for then hope for a false positive which is incredibly rare or wait for hours to get PCR tested??
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Post by iron maiden on Jan 6, 2022 21:31:38 GMT
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Post by Gyro LC on Jan 6, 2022 22:07:11 GMT
Ha, you can't fool us, those are maple leaf hosers.
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Post by iron maiden on Jan 6, 2022 22:38:55 GMT
Maple Leaf Frenchies.
Not cool enough to be Hosers.
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Post by NATH45 on Jan 6, 2022 22:44:15 GMT
What I find interesting is you can't get your hands on a RAT test anywhere, yet everyone seems to be able to at the same time... So, System I do to an extent believe a lot of the testing or reporting to employers is driven by those looking for a week off. Similarly when the turn around on PCR testing was 3-4 days, the same individuals where going to get tested every other week - knowing damn well, they'd have to isolate. But this is the game changer, 21,000+ cases in Victoria alone and we're at 93% vaccinated. Until they talk lockdowns again, it's bearable. For now. I understand a lot of people have used it as an excuse to get off work, but at the moment I don’t understand how that would work. Somehow find a rapid test that you may have to pay scalper price for then hope for a false positive which is incredibly rare or wait for hours to get PCR tested?? You'd be surprised. Some people are just assholes smiling politely.
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Post by c on Jan 7, 2022 0:13:20 GMT
What I find interesting is you can't get your hands on a RAT test anywhere, yet everyone seems to be able to at the same time... So, System I do to an extent believe a lot of the testing or reporting to employers is driven by those looking for a week off. Similarly when the turn around on PCR testing was 3-4 days, the same individuals where going to get tested every other week - knowing damn well, they'd have to isolate. But this is the game changer, 21,000+ cases in Victoria alone and we're at 93% vaccinated. Until they talk lockdowns again, it's bearable. For now. I understand a lot of people have used it as an excuse to get off work, but at the moment I don’t understand how that would work. Somehow find a rapid test that you may have to pay scalper price for then hope for a false positive which is incredibly rare or wait for hours to get PCR tested?? Should get a bunch of at home tests and give them to strangers in the US and mail the positive ones to Australia. The perfect scam!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 0:23:30 GMT
Chicks sell positive pregnancy tests, sell positive covids to get that sweet time off work!
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Post by Lony on Jan 7, 2022 0:30:51 GMT
I got a positive on a rapid testing at work today, so that's a thing that happened.
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Post by Foos on Jan 7, 2022 2:56:02 GMT
I got a positive, on a rapid testing at work today, so that's a thing that happened. Hope you recover well Lony. I got my booster shot yesterday, was fine until bed, and man oh man had a rough night and morning today. First shot no side effects. Second shot, just some minor muscle aches. But the booster? Wiped me for about 16 hours. Triple moderna.
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Post by c on Jan 7, 2022 4:09:32 GMT
Yeah that third shot of moderna was legit. Knocked me out for a week basically.
So annoyed that my stomach is not settling. Have a gastro meeting next month so will let them see if damage was done or not.
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Post by iNCY on Jan 7, 2022 11:45:26 GMT
So I tested positive to Covid-19 today. Been feeling really unwell, low grade fever and shakes, head aches
If anyone's counting that's twice for me. Covid-19 are like pokemon, you got to catch them all. I watched Covid-19 sweep through 100% of a church group where everyone was double vaxxed. This is all garbage, I don't think that vaccines or boosters do a damn thing to stop the spread of Covid-19.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 12:11:47 GMT
To be fair to the scientists, when they talk about 'protection' what they mean is risk reduction rather than absolute protection. In other words, if there is a 𝑥 inate chance of catching Covid in a single situation, a vaccinated person has around a .5𝑥 chance of catching Covid in a single situation, if the vaccine is 50% effective. It doesn't mean that 50% fewer people will catch Covid.
You're right though, I know tons of people who have had Covid now and knew very few in the Delta wave. The biggest issue now is staff shortages for key services like hospitals.
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Post by NATH45 on Jan 7, 2022 12:15:57 GMT
So I tested positive to Covid-19 today. Been feeling really unwell, low grade fever and shakes, head aches If anyone's counting that's twice for me. Covid-19 are like pokemon, you got to catch them all. I watched Covid-19 sweep through 100% of a church group where everyone was double vaxxed. This is all garbage, I don't think that vaccines or boosters do a damn thing to stop the spread of Covid-19. But it remains our ticket out of lockdown. If you think back to most of 2020, and 2021 - a handful of cases hundreds of miles away was enough to shut down an entire state. But you could argue that no-one was prepared for Omicorn - a few months ago, we where thinking with 90% vax approaching, all of this shit was over. My old man is 67 - and could be the most level headed, grounded individual I Know - the hyperbolics and bullshit that I spew, obviously doesn't come from his side of the family. Anyway, he made the comment the other day, that at 67 years old, he's accepted, he'll be living with this ( covid, vaccinations/boosters, restrictions ) for the rest of his life. My concern is, as a society - we'll become so afraid, and spend here on out over-reacting to every cold, flu, etc that comes along, regardless of it's severity.
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Post by iNCY on Jan 7, 2022 12:41:07 GMT
To be fair to the scientists, when they talk about 'protection' what they mean is risk reduction rather than absolute protection. In other words, if there is a 𝑥 inate chance of catching Covid in a single situation, a vaccinated person has around a .5𝑥 chance of catching Covid in a single situation, if the vaccine is 50% effective. It doesn't mean that 50% fewer people will catch Covid. You're right though, I know tons of people who have had Covid now and knew very few in the Delta wave. The biggest issue now is staff shortages for key services like hospitals. From my own anecdotal experience, my heart rate is sitting at 136 today and I'm mad. I watched the variant rip through the community in the space of a week and a half, absolutely cannot see it being any faster in an unvaccinated community.
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Post by iron maiden on Jan 7, 2022 15:05:58 GMT
Knew very few people who had Covid before Omicron. Now, it seems triple vaccinated or not, it's coming for you. I still don't think the vaccines are BS though. Those who are vaccinated should only feel like hell for a few days or weeks and can convalesce at home without putting much more strain on the already strained health system. The issue we are having is while it is not affecting the lungs, it is still attacking the respiratory system so we are seeing an uptick in younger people and children admitted due to complications with asthma, etc. Most of them are not yet vaccinated or have only had their first shot though. Hope it passes quickly with little no no side effects Lony & iNCY.
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Post by c on Jan 7, 2022 15:34:05 GMT
To be fair to the scientists, when they talk about 'protection' what they mean is risk reduction rather than absolute protection. In other words, if there is a 𝑥 inate chance of catching Covid in a single situation, a vaccinated person has around a .5𝑥 chance of catching Covid in a single situation, if the vaccine is 50% effective. It doesn't mean that 50% fewer people will catch Covid. You're right though, I know tons of people who have had Covid now and knew very few in the Delta wave. The biggest issue now is staff shortages for key services like hospitals. Yeah, there was a ton of misunderstanding in the public about what these shots were. The goal of the shots was not to stop the spread of the COVID but minimize the risk of getting COVID. With the reduced symptoms, the virus spreads less from droplets, and makes it harder to bind when exposed, but this from the start was not a vaccine in the way most people think about them. For people saying they do not work, if we did not have vaccines, this variant would have crippled healthcare globally. For most people with the boosters and the double vac this variant is more annoying to get than dangerous. For the unvaccinated, they are having a much different experience. /// Lag period is over in the US and the deathrate is climbing is again. Looking at the trends it is also very clear that sending kids back to school was a mistake as you can clearly see there was a massive increase in deaths as schools started to reopen with the peak falling just shy of the death rate for the original outbreak.
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Post by System on Jan 7, 2022 15:34:26 GMT
So I tested positive to Covid-19 today. Been feeling really unwell, low grade fever and shakes, head aches If anyone's counting that's twice for me. Covid-19 are like pokemon, you got to catch them all. I watched Covid-19 sweep through 100% of a church group where everyone was double vaxxed. This is all garbage, I don't think that vaccines or boosters do a damn thing to stop the spread of Covid-19. Could have at least caught delta also to let us know how each of the big 3 variants rated. Seriously though best wishes on your speedy recovery!
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Post by c on Jan 7, 2022 16:08:30 GMT
Well, have our first liberal quack cure emerging. Seems a lot of liberal gals who were breastfeeding when the vaccine was released just kept breastfeeding this entire time. Not uncommon now to see white women in upper middle class areas breastfeeding two or three year olds with no intention really of stopping until they can be vaccinated at five.
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Post by Gyro LC on Jan 7, 2022 16:21:28 GMT
Well, have our first liberal quack cure emerging. Seems a lot of liberal gals who were breastfeeding when the vaccine was released just kept breastfeeding this entire time. Not uncommon now to see white women in upper middle class areas breastfeeding two or three year olds with no intention really of stopping until they can be vaccinated at five. Hey @ness, here's how you can avoid the vaccine. :brows:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 16:37:45 GMT
Time to bring back those got milk ads!
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Post by c on Jan 7, 2022 17:51:44 GMT
So that whole in person learning stuff is going good. High school kid talking about what it is like in their NYC school was posted on reddit. Basically kids sit in study hall not learning most of the day with COVID positive kids because too many teachers are sick. They cannot socially distance because too many kids are in study hall, and kids that are given COVID tests to take at home, are taking them in school and coming up positive and just hanging out. {Spoiler}I'd like to preface this by stating that remote learning was absolutely detrimental to the mental health of myself, my friends, and my peers at school. Despite this, the present conditions within schools necessitates a temporary return to remote learning; if not because of public health, then because of learning loss.
A story of my day:
- I arrived at school and promptly went to Study Hall. I knew that some of my teachers would be absent because they had announced it on Google Classroom earlier in the day. At our school there is a board in front of the auditorium with the list of teachers and seating sections for students within study hall: today there were 14 absent teachers 1st period. There are 11 seatable sections within the auditorium ... THREE CLASSES sat on the stage. Study hall has become a super spreader event -- I'll get to this in a moment.
- Second period I had another absent teacher. More of the same from 1st period. It was around this time that 25% of kids, including myself, realized that there were no rules being enforced outside of attendance at the start of the period, and that cutting lass was ridiculously easy. We left -- there was functionally no learning occurring within study hall, and health conditions were safer outside of the auditorium. It was well beyond max capacity.
- Third period I had a normal class period. Hooray! First thing the teacher did was pass out COVID tests because we had all been close contacts to a COVID-positive student in our class. 4 more teachers would pass out COVID tests throughout the day, which were to be taken at home. The school started running low on tests, and rules had to be refined to ration.
- "To be taken at home." Ya ... students don't listen. 90% of the bathrooms were full of students swabbing their noses and taking their tests. I had one kid ask me -- with his mask down, by the way -- whether a "faint line was positive," proceeding to show me his positive COVID test. I told him to go the nurse. One student tested positive IN THE AUDITORIUM, and a few students started screaming and ran away from him. There was now a lack of available seats given there was a COVID-positive student within the middle of the auditorium. They're now planning on having teachers give up their free periods to act as substitute teachers because the auditorium is simply not safe enough.
- Classes that I did attend were quiet and empty. Students are staying home because of risk of COVID without testing positive (as they should) and some of my classes had 10+ students absent. Nearly every class has listed myself and others are close contacts.
- I should note that in study hall and with subs we literally learn nothing. I spent about 3 hours sitting around today doing nothing.
- I tested positive for COVID on December the 14th. At the time there were a total of 6 cases. By the end of break this number was up to 36. By January the 3rd (when we returned from break) the numbers were up to 100 (as listed on the school Google Sheet). Today there are 226. This is around 10% of my school. As of Monday, only 30 of whom were reported to the DOE ... which just seems like negligence to me.
- 90% of the conversations spoken by students concern COVID. It has completely taken over any function of daily school life.
- One teacher flat out left his class 5 mins into the lesson and didn't return because he was developing symptoms and didn't believe it safe to spread to his class.
I've been adamantly opposed to remote learning for a while, and thought that it was overall an unmitigated disaster for the learning and mental health of students. At the present time, however, schools cannot teach and function well enough in person. We must go remote.
I should note that I wrote this on Wednesday. Edit: I’ve removed the name of my school as it made me uncomfortable sharing such information, but I’ll say that it’s a specialized high school. This is occurring everywhere. I’ll probably reveal it on comments but I’d prefer for it not be in the body of the post.
Edit 2: NOTE — NOT TRYING TO BE DAMAGING TO THE SCHOOL FACULTY AND TEACHER STAFF. THEY ARE DOING THEIR ABSOLUTE BEST WITH THE CARDS THEY’VE BEEN DELT, AND ALL STUDENTS ARE APPRECIATIVE. ITS DIFFICULT FOR EVERYONE AND TEACHERS AND STAFF ARE REMAINING SAFE AND SUPPORTIVE.
Update: 40% is teachers are out today. They can’t even take attendance because it’s impossible. You can sit anywhere in study hall one chair apart. Seperate news article on that insanity that is COVID and in person learning. Notice the interesting note about entire grades being combined into a one class for lack of staff and so many students out sick. Students at home sick get no learning. Classes without teachers get no learning. Basically we decided not to educate kids so parents can go to work. gothamist.com/news/its-not-sustainable-nyc-public-school-administrators-teachers-struggle-staffing-shortages
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Post by iron maiden on Jan 7, 2022 18:04:52 GMT
They are sending our kids back to classes starting Monday despite the fact our numbers are up drastically and we are sitting at a 40% positivity rate. All my friends who have tested positive for Omicron have kids. Not saying there's a correlation, but when Caycee was at home she was a little germ factory.
The good news is only 10% of hospitalizations are Omicron. Unsure how many of that 10% are vaccinated or not. The vaccines work in this regard, also it's showing those who are vaccinated have a shorter infectious period (on average).
Our government is telling people to get home rapid tests. Only one issue with that. You can't find them anywhere. Government says should be able to get more by end of January. Ummmm...
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Post by 🤯 on Jan 7, 2022 18:06:52 GMT
Our government is telling people to get home rapid tests. Only one issue with that. You can't find them anywhere. Government says should be able to get more by end of January. Ummmm... Isn't the other problem the 1 in 5 rate of false negatives with the at-home rapid tests?
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Post by iron maiden on Jan 7, 2022 18:09:33 GMT
There's that too but they don't seem to care too much about that apparently.
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