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Post by 🤯 on Dec 2, 2020 12:40:42 GMT
UK authorized the COVID vaccine for emergency use. Which one?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 12:57:34 GMT
Pfizer-BioNTech
It's a brilliant moment that should be celebrated, and will have long-lasting implications for protecting the human race against disease. Truly incredible technology.
The UK are set to use this vaccine to protect health and care workers, elderly and clinically vulnerable through the winter. Oxford's technology will then be used to vaccinate the rest of the population. Our Health Secretary is talking confidently of a 'normal summer'.
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Post by RT on Dec 2, 2020 15:28:04 GMT
Pfizer-BioNTech It's a brilliant moment that should be celebrated, and will have long-lasting implications for protecting the human race against disease. Truly incredible technology. The UK are set to use this vaccine to protect health and care workers, elderly and clinically vulnerable through the winter. Oxford's technology will then be used to vaccinate the rest of the population. Our Health Secretary is talking confidently of a 'normal summer'. Love this news. Trudeau has been making vaccine distribution a main talking point this week and I can't help but be optimistic that Canada won't be far behind the UK.
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Post by Ness on Dec 2, 2020 15:30:57 GMT
Just find out now that my cousin who I haven’t talked to for was tested positive for Cvoid The hits just keep on coming to pduh 's friends and family. Does our frequent guest status on his podcast make us more than acquaintances? Because uh oh.
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Post by iron maiden on Dec 2, 2020 16:41:55 GMT
Pfizer-BioNTech It's a brilliant moment that should be celebrated, and will have long-lasting implications for protecting the human race against disease. Truly incredible technology. The UK are set to use this vaccine to protect health and care workers, elderly and clinically vulnerable through the winter. Oxford's technology will then be used to vaccinate the rest of the population. Our Health Secretary is talking confidently of a 'normal summer'. Indeed! HUGE news.
I don't usually get a flu shot, but I'd take this when it is offered to us unwashed masses.
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Post by Jake on Dec 2, 2020 17:26:50 GMT
Amazing, just truly amazing news and a fantastic moment we are currently living in.
It's true, we are using the first batch of vaccines for those who need it most first and Health care workers.
Although, I've upset myself watching the news today as some of our news people have been going to care homes and speaking to residents who have said "we have lived our lives, give it to the younger generation" ah that got to me.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 2, 2020 17:38:01 GMT
The hits just keep on coming to pduh 's friends and family. Does our frequent guest status on his podcast make us more than acquaintances? Because uh oh. I was worried thinking the exact same thing.
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Post by c on Dec 2, 2020 19:45:30 GMT
US announced "The Trump" vaccine is close to be ready for use. No word on the COVID vaccine, but I will gladly take anything that protect me from Trump.
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Post by RT on Dec 3, 2020 2:35:44 GMT
Just got an email from the school. My daughter's class had a COVID case on Friday and the entire class is starting remote learning immediately.
My son came home with a cold on Wednesday and we all got sick, and all assumed that's what it was. Now we're not so sure and have nagging coughs.
Going in for testing ASAP. And I might be isolating for two weeks.
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Post by @admin on Dec 3, 2020 2:53:57 GMT
Screening test not looking so stupid now!
Hope it all turns out well RT.
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Post by RT on Dec 3, 2020 3:31:08 GMT
Screening test not looking so stupid now! Hope it all turns out well RT. It knew! Already got contacted. Test is booked for Friday morning and I must self isolate until I know my results. WOOOOOOOOOO EXTRA LONG HOLIDAY BREAK
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Post by c on Dec 3, 2020 17:47:15 GMT
Obama, Bush and Bill Clinton will likely publicly get their COVID vaccinations to try to build confidence. Given all three are filthy deep state socialists may not do much in the eyes of Trumpers, but it is a start.
US should be able to vaccinate the willing by Feb or a third of the country.
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Post by iron maiden on Dec 3, 2020 20:40:24 GMT
Just got an email from the school. My daughter's class had a COVID case on Friday and the entire class is starting remote learning immediately. My son came home with a cold on Wednesday and we all got sick, and all assumed that's what it was. Now we're not so sure and have nagging coughs. Going in for testing ASAP. And I might be isolating for two weeks. Hope you guys are ok and like a pregnancy test turns out negative.
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Post by iNCY on Dec 3, 2020 22:12:32 GMT
I don't think anyone looking to start a family in the future should rush to get immunised. Priority should be people over 50.
It all makes me nervous and I am not a conspiracy theorist, but an RNA vaccine is no joke.
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Post by Emperor on Dec 3, 2020 22:26:48 GMT
I don't think anyone looking to start a family in the future should rush to get immunised. Priority should be people over 50. It all makes me nervous and I am not a conspiracy theorist, but an RNA vaccine is no joke. What harm could the vaccine do?
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Post by @admin on Dec 3, 2020 22:33:11 GMT
I don't think anyone looking to start a family in the future should rush to get immunised. Priority should be people over 50. It all makes me nervous and I am not a conspiracy theorist, but an RNA vaccine is no joke. What harm could the vaccine do? Connect you to 5G.
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Post by iNCY on Dec 3, 2020 22:47:21 GMT
I don't think anyone looking to start a family in the future should rush to get immunised. Priority should be people over 50. It all makes me nervous and I am not a conspiracy theorist, but an RNA vaccine is no joke. What harm could the vaccine do? Despite @admin, contempt, the problem is we don't know what the longer term effects of the vaccine is. Many medicines have side effects and I think people who are at risk of the virus killing them should get jabbed right away, but why should young and healthy people get the vaccine right away? Just wait for more data. I will get it right away so I can travel for work without quarantine, but I have my kids now. I will resist having my kids vaccinated for a couple of years until there is more data.
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Post by c on Dec 3, 2020 23:18:27 GMT
I am glad so many will not take it, makes it easier for me to get it.
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Post by RT on Dec 3, 2020 23:43:56 GMT
The more people that get vaccinated, the less it spreads and the less chance people who cannot take the vaccine for health reasons get sick and die. It's called herd immunity and is a big reason we got rid of so many deadly diseases.
Nobody waited around to wait and see what the long term effects were for the other vaccines and none of them had any long term side effects so why would this one be any different?
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Post by c on Dec 4, 2020 0:44:37 GMT
Actually we did wait around for long term effects for older vaccines. It took 10 years to ready most vaccines of widespread distribution. If people want to wait 10 to 20 years for long term effects to be discovered we can just lockdown until then.
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Post by iNCY on Dec 4, 2020 3:49:18 GMT
Actually we did wait around for long term effects for older vaccines. It took 10 years to ready most vaccines of widespread distribution. If people want to wait 10 to 20 years for long term effects to be discovered we can just lockdown until then. Or you know... Vaccinate the vulnerable first.
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Post by c on Dec 4, 2020 4:00:46 GMT
We are talking vaccinating entire countries in 3 to 6 months. Long term side effects will not appear in that time period. US is looking to have the willing vaccinated by March. UK will likely have a quarter of the population vaccinated by the New Year and may be able to finish the willing by then.
Frankly the main thing holding up vaccination speed is not even production but reservation. Half of the vaccine produced is not expected to be used, as it will remain reserved for people who will not take it. In the US for instance 65 percent of healthcare workers, the first people the vaccine will be offered too (outside of the million or so doses that "disappear"), will not take it. Then moves to the elderly, where 60% of people will not take it. Then the obese and those with preexisting conditions that are expected to see 65% refusal rates. So of the 100 million full doses that the US gets, only 40 million are likely to be used, while others are told there are is not enough vaccinations for people in other groups that actually are willing to take it. Other countries are looking at similar situations with higher acceptance rates of receiving the vaccine, but still figure half of all doses will sit unused.
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Post by c on Dec 4, 2020 6:31:27 GMT
Work from home ending in the very near future in the US. Biden pushing on dems to pass the GOP Stimulus. Expected most companies will demand people return to the office again once the liability shield is up for COVID related lawsuits.
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Post by iron maiden on Dec 4, 2020 7:52:07 GMT
We had a one day high today of 1854 reported cases. Now that might not seem like a lot to some, but the entire population of Alberta is about 4 million. In comparison, Ontario reported about the same number and has a population of 13.5 million.
You can't visit your parents, but you can go to the casino.
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Post by c on Dec 4, 2020 8:07:50 GMT
US saw only a five percent decrease in road traffic on Thanksgiving compared to last year. We are fucked here. Cases should start to spike next week.
My county has less than a million people are we had 1500 new cases yesterday. My city of 80000 is averaging 150 cases a day.
Gonna need Alberta to step up them numbers a bit. Those are amateur numbers. So sick of the US having to carry all your asses in this global pandemic!!!
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 4, 2020 9:10:18 GMT
Work from home ending in the very near future in the US. Biden pushing on dems to pass the GOP Stimulus. Expected most companies will demand people return to the office again once the liability shield is up for COVID related lawsuits. I don't know about this. I'm not sure how well employees would accept that. They've seen the light. Employers have seen the light. There's benefits to both sides. I think any company enforcing a 20th century model of return to office risks talent going to competitors or altogether other companies who are more progressive and thus attractive to employees.
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Post by c on Dec 4, 2020 15:37:19 GMT
Employees have taken to work at home, but employers can increase productivity by forcing people back.
Think about this, the GOP for 7 months starved their states to pass this. If there was not money in it they would not be doing it. Corporations are lobbying hard as fuck for this to start packing offices again. If they were ok with people just working from home we would have had several more stimulus bills passed so they can continue to rake in loans that do not need to be repaid.
And sure people can quit, but they will be unlikely to find work as place are doing layoffs to rehire next year at lower costs.
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Post by c on Dec 4, 2020 16:09:08 GMT
This week COVID finally surpassed heart diseased as the number 1 cause of death for the week in the US.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 4, 2020 16:10:02 GMT
Employees have taken to work at home, but employers can increase productivity by forcing people back. Think about this, the GOP for 7 months starved their states to pass this. If there was not money in it they would not be doing it. Corporations are lobbying hard as fuck for this to start packing offices again. If they were ok with people just working from home we would have had several more stimulus bills passed so they can continue to rake in loans that do not need to be repaid. And sure people can quit, but they will be unlikely to find work as place are doing layoffs to rehire next year at lower costs. Productivity is definitely not increased in the office. The lost time to impromptu chats, break room banter, etc. while perhaps helpful for social spirit and morale take away way more time from actually working than the distractions at home. And defining boundaries becomes much more difficult at home, so employees are likely to work longer and/or be online for more windows of time. With the office model, once you start commuting home, you're offline for the day for many. And from the employer perspective, I think it's adapt or die even if it's a slow death. The desire and ability to work productively while remote was there well before corona. The pandemic lockdown just finally forced a collective hand to finally shift into the 21st century. And it's not like there aren't major benefits for employers to capitalize on. Aside from minimizing costs of owning or leasing and operating office spaces, they can pay based on cost of labor... Not location. And not being anchored to a specific site should open doors to recruit and attract the best talent regardless of where they're located. I've witnessed firsthand project teams come together with lesser talent because the company couldn't entice the ideal talents to relocate their families or be away from them. Granted, this doesn't or won't apply to all industries or companies... But it will definitely be what the best talent seek out. And the best companies will be on board with this and not try to go backwards. And companies trying to model themselves after the best companies will at least attempt to follow suit. I don't think there's any undoing the shift that has started. Feels like saying goodbye 40-hour work week protections or whatever that were established at the tail end of the Industrial Revolution. There's no going back. Might seem like it in a narrow near-term view, but it's more one step back two steps forward if anything. Think biggest issue will ultimately be a finite number of white collar office jobs that can be worked remotely. There will be a have vs. have-not tension between those people with jobs they can work remotely, and those in jobs where they have to be physically present to do the actual work. But grass being greener on the other side n'at, people will always find something to gripe about. Honestly, feel like American corporate culture remaining supportive of the remote work model is a great way too for them to avoid or delay having to take other first world measures like actually offering reasonable parental leave and PTO/sick day allotments.
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Post by RT on Dec 4, 2020 19:20:47 GMT
Test completed. It was the saliva test, which was nice. I was dreading having something shoved into my brain through my nose.
Now we wait. I'll know Sunday at the earliest. Until then it's sit around the house and worry, which is mostly how we spend our time anyway. Yaaaayyyy
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