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Post by iron maiden on Feb 12, 2021 16:14:26 GMT
Well I know at least 1 of the cases I've seen reported from Texas, it was 'somewhat' justified as there were 10 doses left and its said he administered it to his friends and family. His story is of course different, but it's an interesting case study:
www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-doctor-hasan-gokal-accused-stealing-covid-doses/
He was told no doses should be wasted. According to him, 10 people didn't show up or refused it. He then went through the trouble of finding people to vaccinate, including his own wife. Their take is that he 'stole' the vial and injected people/friends and family within his community (Indian). His take is that he did so only after it was apparent the 10 doses were going to go to waste.
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Post by nath45 on Feb 12, 2021 19:47:39 GMT
All of Victoria, Australia is now back in stage 4 lockdown. All of Victoria. Because of 5 cases. 5 cases in Melbourne. Cue panic buying. Cue panic attacks. This is 'storm the Capitol' levels of fuck you. #SackDanAndrews And, its nearly 2 years until the 2022 Victorian state election. Lockdown should be regional/postcode based, allowing those hundreds of kilometres away to live freely without being imprisoned. You really believe someone living in the dirt bowl that is the Mallee, 340kms from Melbourne is impacted by this cluster. NSW is closer at some points. I've stuck it out, road it out. But this shit from Dandrews has got stop.
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Post by Emperor on Feb 12, 2021 21:12:58 GMT
I've had my first Pfizer vaccine. Very smooth process, no side effects except for a slightly sore arm. Same as a flu jab. I'm eligible this early because I'm on immunosuppresant medication.
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Post by iron maiden on Feb 12, 2021 23:00:06 GMT
The Kid, you've now had both rounds of immunizations. Any adverse reactions? No one I know who has had the first or second has reported anything worse than a sore arm and being fatigued.
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Post by The Kid on Feb 12, 2021 23:19:51 GMT
I highly doubt this is a conspiracy. In fact, this is a HUGE deal especially with the profession I am in. Stay safe. Does anyone else go back to page 1 to see how funny this all was Day 1. TO EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR ME! and c. jTjohncenaGOAT was mad at everyone for fear mongering. Oh we've come a long way.
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Post by The Kid on Feb 12, 2021 23:21:10 GMT
The Kid , you've now had both rounds of immunizations. Any adverse reactions? No one I know who has had the first or second has reported anything worse than a sore arm and being fatigued. Just pain to the arm and armpit. My bones felt like they were going to break too, especially in my legs. Maybe a bit of SOB when doing excess activity; but that could also be because I'm out of shape lol. I'm fine now, though. Cured. Ready for house parties.
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Post by iron maiden on Feb 13, 2021 0:32:01 GMT
I get that kids aren’t as affected by this but it’s said they are also the largest group of carriers. If you are a parent you already know this. I’m off to the store today as I went late last night and they closed an hour earlier to restock. I thought I was being smart. So now I’m off again during high volume times in order to get a few staples for the week (aka our normal grocery). Then I’m going to the liquor store cause I think I’m going to need it.I went back and re-read the first 20 pages. Little did I know how true this would be. COVID almost killed my liver those first few months.
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Post by iNCY on Feb 13, 2021 1:46:17 GMT
We are back in hard lockdown Can't leave the house except for: groceries, exercise and working in an essential industry. No school, no church, no going to work, no visiting even family members. Masks mandated as 100% compulsory everywhere. They're saying just 5 days, but I will believe it when I see it..
Our state government becomes more incompetent and authoritarian with each passing day.
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Post by nath45 on Feb 13, 2021 2:32:34 GMT
It says a lot when both the Premier and the sign language person are both not wearing masks when holding this latest press conference. Yet, here we all are.. wearing masks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 21:08:20 GMT
Israel has published the data today on the real-world efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine. I mentioned that Israel's Health Minister had touted these results a few days ago, so this is a re-tread, but these are hard published figures. This is a real-world study that is extremely robust, with 1.2m people studied, a mixture of demographics, at the time of an outbreak in the country. 600k in the vaccinated group, 600k in the control group. Crucially, the size of the study has enabled the first real-world results on reduction of severe disease:
- Efficacy of vaccine on symptomatic infection (the measure used in trials) is 94%. The efficacy was maintained across all age groups.
- Vaccinated people that did catch coronavirus were 92% less likely to develop severe disease. The efficacy of the vaccine against severe disease is inferred to be 99.6%.
Israel's rapid rollout has also enabled them to look at other crucial aspects of the future of the disease. A very small study showed that in 17 medics that had caught the disease, 11 of them had no antibodies pre-vaccine. This infers that antibodies fade in a matter of months. However, once vaccinated, all 17 showed robust antibody responses far beyond the normal level of somebody receiving one vaccine. This infers that coronavirus triggers memory B cells that can create antibodies from memory. SARS-1 had a similar phenomenon, where people were still partially immune some 10 years after their infection. In simple terms, these 17 people would have had a very high level of protection with or without a vaccine.
What does this mean? There is unlikely to be a need for an annual vaccine program to boost antibodies. There may be one in the short-term to boost coverage (i.e. stave off pesky variants).
This week has just been a stream of good news and it's great to see. Pfizer are now bullish that the South African variant is not going to do much to its vaccine, and that an adapted version might not even be needed.
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Post by c on Feb 21, 2021 23:17:14 GMT
WE DID BOYS!!! 500k dead!!! Let us not stop now though, let's show the world why we are fucking number one and go for a straight million!!! MASKS OFF FOR A MILLION!!!
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Post by Ness on Feb 21, 2021 23:20:17 GMT
WE DID BOYS!!! 500k dead!!! Let us not stop now though, let's show the world why we are fucking number one and go for a straight million!!! MASKS OFF FOR A MILLION!!! Corona-chan is just getting started!
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Post by 🤯 on Feb 21, 2021 23:44:15 GMT
Half a million is half ass.
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Post by c on Feb 22, 2021 6:50:19 GMT
We should celebrate hitting a million by spreading the wealth to our friends up North. I do not think they really are getting the full COVID experience yet. We should show them no walls can stop the US.
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Post by Ness on Feb 22, 2021 22:02:44 GMT
We should celebrate hitting a million by spreading the wealth to our friends up North. I do not think they really are getting the full COVID experience yet. We should show them no walls can stop the US. They suddenly start building their own wall. <_<
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Post by c on Feb 24, 2021 4:37:55 GMT
Cali strains may get us to a million yet!!! Two similar mutations found in Cali B.1.427 and B.1.429 are more infectious and more deadly than the UK variant that is the dominate strain in the US. Early data says it results in a 4 times risk of hospitalization and an 11-fold increase in death. 20% of the cases in the study were this strain as well, meaning it is already widespread in Cali. B.1.439 also decreases the effectiveness of antibodies by half in the case of the vaccine. The paper that is coming out with this information also highlights very little is known about COVID sequences in the US as many states simply are not submitting data. The little Nevada data has shows it is 27% of the sequence are these new variants so it is spreading beyond Cali. www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/02/coronavirus-strain-first-identified-california-may-be-more-infectious-and-cause-more
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 8:18:57 GMT
They also state categorically that the data is not significant enough to categorise these variants as variants of concern:
“The work is definitely worth reporting, but I don’t buy that on its own this is sufficient to categorize these as variants of concern,” Hanage says. He notes that B.1.427 and B.1.429 likely emerged in July and June 2020, respectively, but infections have not exploded in the exponential curves seen with the three identified variants of concern. “The real evidence will be seeing if, when introduced elsewhere, these lineages start to take off in similar fashion.”
So as with all found and unfound mutations, this will be worth keeping an eye on but it is nothing to start screaming about yet.
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Post by c on Feb 24, 2021 9:00:25 GMT
Hanage critique is kind of absurd. What he is essentially saying is this is not concerning because it is on par with the UK variant. For him, to be an variant of concern, it would have to be exponentially worse. If Covid raises another magnitude though that is 20 million deaths a week in the US or 15 percent of the population. Also he claims it has not yet escaped, but cases in Nevada shows it clearly is spreading outside of Cali.
So kind of is a variant of note, in that it should be watched. Appearing 20% of the time in the data they surveyed also shows it is not a localized cluster, but one that is likely spreading in the US actively. By the time the US labeled the UK variant a variant of concern, it already was the dominate strain. Ideally we should not make the same mistake again given hitting vaccination numbers for herd immunity here will be problematic even if it is effective against emergent strains. We already are preparing for COVID protocol until 2023 here.
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Post by c on Feb 24, 2021 15:59:36 GMT
Finally got a tentative vaccination date of April 12th. CT is going almost entirely by age as going by medical necessity have proven disastrous in many places as vaccines stockpile as they struggle to get people in to be vaccinated. Doctors can give people priority and teachers and healthcare workers can go whenever still.
Based on the timeline, CT may be able to reopen entirely in June or July with 60% vaccination rates.
One shot vaccine also should be approved in the US next week.
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Post by iNCY on Feb 24, 2021 22:20:57 GMT
I am more than a bit over Covid-19 being the new "Al-Qaeada" whereby a government can be inept on practically everything, but still trade on the "Keeping you safe" mantra.
I do a lot of work in Australia and New Zealand and what many people don't realise in our countries is that the borders are literally closed, for me to travel or to bring in a technician from overseas, I need an exemption from the government... It is insane, coupled with the fact we only allow about 10,000 people to arrive per week and you have to stay in a hotel for two weeks upon arrival for $3,300 it all sucks pretty bad. Now the vaccine is rolling out and not only are the borders not moving towards re-opening for vaccinated people... They're not even talking about it.
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Post by c on Feb 24, 2021 23:15:19 GMT
Curious what most countries do this summer. Do they let Typhoid Mary visit because she will bring pretty bobbles? Americans will want to travel this summer and I really do not see most countries turning away the tourism.
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Post by nath45 on Feb 25, 2021 8:46:55 GMT
I am more than a bit over Covid-19 being the new "Al-Qaeada" whereby a government can be inept on practically everything, but still trade on the "Keeping you safe" mantra. I do a lot of work in Australia and New Zealand and what many people don't realise in our countries is that the borders are literally closed, for me to travel or to bring in a technician from overseas, I need an exemption from the government... It is insane, coupled with the fact we only allow about 10,000 people to arrive per week and you have to stay in a hotel for two weeks upon arrival for $3,300 it all sucks pretty bad. Now the vaccine is rolling out and not only are the borders not moving towards re-opening for vaccinated people... They're not even talking about it. I'm really curious to see what happens when we have had the vaccine. Do we completely ditch masks and social distancing because we're now protected. It would seem pretty silly doing both if the vaccine is meant to work.
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Post by c on Feb 25, 2021 19:50:47 GMT
NY reporting a new COVID variant, B.1.526. 25% of the cases surveyed so far in the region. Caltech and Columbia separately reported it in pre-prints. Has the Brazil and South African E484K mutation to make it more resistant to some vaccines.
Vaccines are testing a third booster shot against this new version to see if maybe it just needs a little more punch, which frankly, could be all it takes for now.
Also talk starting of regular COVID boosters as a means to fight off the various mutations and changes, and to keep the antibodies primed until the virus starts to fade. Will be a political issue in the US, but schools in the liberal areas are likely to require COVID vaccines. Given only two states require HPV vaccines and massive backlash against them show anti-vax attitudes. Texas got under so much pressure they revoked their mandate on it. 14 states made some movement on it with either sending recommendations to get it, allowing pharmacists to give it or offering it free of charge. But this shows the pressure anti-vaxers have here. Then again most people do not realize that HPV also causes dick and ball cancers. Promote that more and people will likely be more inclined to get it.
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Post by 🤯 on Feb 25, 2021 22:14:36 GMT
I feel like for every c post in here I want/need a follow-on Todd post to counterbalance.
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Post by Ness on Feb 25, 2021 22:26:17 GMT
I feel like for every c post in here I want/need a follow-on Todd post to counterbalance. Team c for me if this leads to civil war.
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Post by @admin on Feb 25, 2021 22:38:32 GMT
I feel like for every c post in here I want/need a follow-on Todd post to counterbalance. tl:dr for like the last 40 pages of this thread: c: there's new strain that's infected two people todd: nah mate it's all good c: but the VARIENTS todd: nah mate it's all good incy: fucking RESTRICTIONS cunt
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Post by 🤯 on Feb 25, 2021 22:47:03 GMT
I feel like for every c post in here I want/need a follow-on Todd post to counterbalance. tl:dr for like the last 40 pages of this thread: c: there's new strain that's infected two people todd: nah mate it's all good c: but the VARIENTS todd: nah mate it's all good incy: fucking RESTRICTIONS cunt Feel like I laughed way harder at this than I should've, but feel like this needs edited into the first part for quick reference and posterity sakes.
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Post by Ness on Feb 25, 2021 22:55:16 GMT
When PW threads go 2 pages or more I expect @admin to wrote one of those to describe it for those who come to the party late.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 23:19:43 GMT
I feel like for every c post in here I want/need a follow-on Todd post to counterbalance. lol Vaccine boosters will probably happen in the short-term. The only way I can see it not happening is if cellular immunity prevents severe disease (so the efficacy against symptomatic infection is less relevant) which we don't know and we'll just have to wait for some real world data. I know I'm relentlessly optimistic about this thing, mostly because we all should be, but c is right. Mutations are going to be the problem in the short term until we get the world's population vaccinated. But I see it more as a hindrance to herd immunity than a real threat to life (at this stage). A scenario where people who have taken these vaccines start dying in numbers at the hands of these variants still feels unlikely to me. R will increase, but as long people as people are safe, let's just get on with it.
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Post by iNCY on Feb 25, 2021 23:34:30 GMT
I feel like for every c post in here I want/need a follow-on Todd post to counterbalance. tl:dr for like the last 40 pages of this thread: c: there's new strain that's infected two people todd: nah mate it's all good c: but the VARIENTS todd: nah mate it's all good incy: fucking RESTRICTIONS cunt Apart from the fact I don't ever use those swear words, the sentiment is spot on! :rockin:
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