It's time for PW version 2.0 to get its pet peeves thread. We collectively built a whole library of pet peeves at the old place, but it has been burnt down and will never be revived. Let's get rebuilding!

- Calls of the form "If he hits this, his career will be over!" when a wrestler attempts a particularly "dangerous" move. Sometimes he hits it, and of course the recipient's career is not over. That call annoys me, and I really can't explain why. I guess it's just because it's a blatant lie.

- Calls of the form "That's it, the match is over" and of course, kick out at two, announcers feign shock. You're not fooling anyone. It's even more idiotic when they call it on a move that never wins a match. Makes the announcers sound like they don't watch the product.

- Overuse of moves on the apron. When this started to become a thing, it was used sparingly and effectively. For example, the first significant apron bump I rememeber is Kevin Owens' debut in NXT where he turned on Sami Zayn and powerbombed him on the apron. Zayn was out for weeks after that. Now it's used in 50% of big matches and is treated like just another big move. Even Kevin Owens does his apron powerbomb on a regular basis, and it isn't taking everyone out for weeks.

- WWE wrestlers wearing shirts of their brand in Raw vs Smackdown matches. It's so fucking goofy. Especially for guys who normally wrestle shirtless.

- Forced brand loyalty in general. Except for the Survivor Series period, these guys are constantly fighting people on the same roster. Just for one month, they have to switch all that off and become buddy buddy, wearing the same goofy shirts, because it just happens to be Survivor Series time?

Testify!

The entire show faced an uphill battle because the ultimate storyline was a battle of egos between Shane McMahon, Kurt Angle, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon. This storyline has existed in some form or fashion since the 14th December 1999 edition of SmackDown.

It's silly...but the fans eat it up. It's like a Braun Strowman push, what are you going to do?

The way some guys carry their titles like they're taking out the trash. Roman Reigns comes to mind. I like men who put the belts on their shoulder, ie Orton.

Or even around the waist. But don't lug it around like garbage letting the belt drag on the ground, pretty much

Inconsistencies in standard match rules. Especially if not purposefully done for storyline purposes.

The one time a year, someone is pulled up by the ref for using a ' closed fist '

Dec 4, 2017 23:41:08 GMT Mistress said:

The way some guys carry their titles like they're taking out the trash. Roman Reigns comes to mind. I like men who put the belts on their shoulder, ie Orton.

Or even around the waist. But don't lug it around like garbage letting the belt drag on the ground, pretty much

LOL you must've raged when Rock carried the belt.

Dec 5, 2017 10:43:49 GMT @ness said:

Dec 4, 2017 23:41:08 GMT Mistress said:

The way some guys carry their titles like they're taking out the trash. Roman Reigns comes to mind. I like men who put the belts on their shoulder, ie Orton.

Or even around the waist. But don't lug it around like garbage letting the belt drag on the ground, pretty much

LOL you must've raged when Rock carried the belt.

No kidding lol


It bugged me when Austin did it too

In the past few years, it's been suicide dives. It feels like 90% of matches have them now, especially tag matches and multi-person matches.

Yeah, the dives are as overused as the resthold during the commercial break. If there was some variety in the move if they insisted on a dive it wouldn't be as bad. Can a brotha get a baseball slide once in a while? Or everyone just do Charlotte's corkscrew moonsault?

Any moves involving a wrestler's ass, the headscissor stinkface, the stinkface that Rikishi does, diving butt bombs like what Japanese women wrestlers do a lot, the butt bump thing that Goldust does, get the fuck out of here dude.

Dec 6, 2017 0:55:23 GMT shinobimusashi said:

Any moves involving a wrestler's ass, the headscissor stinkface, the stinkface that Rikishi does, diving butt bombs like what Japanese women wrestlers do a lot, the butt bump thing that Goldust does, get the fuck out of here dude.

Just outta curiosity, why? Some butt offense makes sense and works for me, but I can see why some people might have problems with butt stuff.

Hoping the elaboration might spawn some conversation about favorite and least favorite body part-based offense.

Butt based moves rule when done by a fat guy like Yokozuna or Earthquake.

I'm more extreme than Mistress when it comes to how championship belts are to be treated. Wear it around your waist or gtfo*. It's a belt! Not a shoulder accessory or a leash!

*Guys who are literally too fat to wear the belt like Yoko & Andre are exempt from this rule.

It's okay in this instance because everyone knows that the IC belt is just trash.

When the babyface does heelish things in a match and gets away with it. It makes the heel look quite weak, if not completely burying said heel.

Just call it SmackDown!, you fuckin' twats! I can see the live logo at the beginning of each episode.

Dec 6, 2017 0:55:23 GMT shinobimusashi said:

Any moves involving a wrestler's ass, the headscissor stinkface, the stinkface that Rikishi does, diving butt bombs like what Japanese women wrestlers do a lot, the butt bump thing that Goldust does, get the fuck out of here dude.

I agree but for me, it just makes the wrestler lose credibility as a legit competitor. If putting your ass in someone's face is how you get by and win matches, you shouldn't be in the ring.

All this butt hate, sheesh!

It's like you're all anally repressed and taking your punt up butt aggression out on some moves that actually make sense (as Baker pointed out).

Who uses butt stuff who isn't a fatty?

Dec 6, 2017 14:03:49 GMT 🤯 said:

All this butt hate, sheesh!

It's like you're all anally repressed and taking your punt up butt aggression out on some moves that actually make sense (as Baker pointed out).

Who uses butt stuff who isn't a fatty?

Naomi

Asuka does. Or did, I don't pay much attention to main roster stuff. Of course they always say "hip attack". Toni Storm did when she had matches in the MYC. Point is I like butts as long as they have a proper bmi...

In recent years Taguchi's (NJPW junior, not fat) entire gimmick has been about his "funky weapon" ass attack and people working over his ass in tag matches. Butt attacks are a pet peeve of mine as well, even more so when it's the focal point of a guy's character. The only ass attack I like is the running one in the corner, as done by Umaga and the Usos.

Dec 6, 2017 16:19:00 GMT Emperor said:

In recent years Taguchi's (NJPW junior, not fat) entire gimmick has been about his "funky weapon" ass attack and people working over his ass in tag matches. Butt attacks are a pet peeve of mine as well, even more so when it's the focal point of a guy's character. The only ass attack I like is the running one in the corner, as done by Umaga and the Usos.

I'm floored by all the butt hate.

The running butt smash in the corner is great, but the Banzai Drop is the greatest. Sit-down splashes have their due place as well, as either terrifying sunset flip counters or great ways to squash the breath out of an opponent's lungs. Granted, as someone who has cracked his tailbone, I can attest that ass drops and ass smashes are high risk because if you miss and don't have fat/muscle to cushion the impact... That jolt to the spinal column SUCKS.

That all said, the Stink Face was hard to endure. Especially given some of those closeup camera angles. But it also had its due place as a great comeuppance for heels.

I'm a tits guy, but still... Fuck all you butt haters.

Nothing wrong with a little fanservice.

The Blockbuster. You are Suplexing yourself!

Shinsuke. Love the music but his entrance and pretty much every else about him I hate.

I love Asuka, but it should be Aska in an English market. OK, I'm Xenophobic in your Trump hating eyes!

Hogan's leg drop. How was that garbage ever a legit finisher?

Mark Henry as "The World's Strongest Man". Who failed to even medal at the Olympics as a powerlifter.

When WCW started calling things "International objects" and "Red Liquid". So much patience Sting... so much patience.

So ya know when someone is Irish Whipped and then they duck down and are usually met with a kick to the shoulder by the one rebounding off the ropes... what the hell is that? Like... what are they hoping to accomplish? Is it setting up for a backdrop? I just don't understand the logic.

Dec 18, 2017 15:04:14 GMT @ness said:

So ya know when someone is Irish Whipped and then they duck down and are usually met with a kick to the shoulder by the one rebounding off the ropes... what the hell is that? Like... what are they hoping to accomplish? Is it setting up for a backdrop? I just don't understand the logic.

Can we back up and talk about how fucking dumb the Irish whip is? That's my biggest pet peeve. Like seriously, I'd love to see a shoot Irish whip just to see what happens. If guys sold it like their arms were being pulled out of their sockets and didn't take off running and bouncing like a superball, that'd be one thing. But Irish whips in their current incarnation defy suspension of not only disbelief but the laws of physics.

Irish whips are really stupid, but it's one of the cornerstones of pro-wrestling and I accepted it as law a long time ago. I do have a pet peeve related to that, though. Half-assed Irish whips. Sure, they are stupid, but at least make it look like you're trying to pull the guy hard and shove him towards the ropes. In Lucha matches they sometimes literally just tap one another on the back and off they go, full sprint. Also, huge wrestlers should not be Irish-whippable, but more often than not they are.

The ducking thing Ness mentioned is interesting. I could buy it in the late 90s when every wrestler did a back body drop as part of their comeback. But nobody does that move anymore, so ducking after whipping someone makes no sense.

Fans of only one organization. That shit on the other organizations with out watching them.

Dec 30, 2017 14:17:35 GMT bodyslam said:

Fans of only one organization. That shit on the other organizations with out watching them.

But that's how WWF raised and trained me to be.

I'm surprised WWE fans even know there are other companies. That's impressive in itself...