Aug 21, 2020 20:03:47 GMT mikec said:

Aug 21, 2020 14:11:58 GMT rad said:

Absolutely amazing that nothing political has been said yet. Well done PW, I'm proud of ya'll. Time for me to completely shit on that...

I hate being shamed for having moderate views, as if I'm taking the easy way out. Or as Philly's own Ronald MacDonald once brilliantly put it: "I'm playing both sides so I always come out on top!" That's not at all what it's about.

Tired of being shamed for voting 3rd party by two groups of grown children who cry for politics that will benefit the people, when time and time again they just accept their fate and vote against their own interests. How exactly am I the problem again? "Vote Blue No Matter Who" is the dumbest shit I've heard.

Sadly, Trump is going to win: I guarantee it. The dems only have themselves to blame, so stop blaming me and other 3rd party voters for voting in what they believe. No self-respecting progressive should EVER be voting for Biden/Harris, point blank.

I also hate this notion of "with us or against us" that's applied to you if you so choose to remain friends with someone who just happens to think differently than you. I love my conservative friends, so fuck you and grow the fuck up.

I’m fascinated by how you consider yourself moderate yet too progressive for Biden.

rad is modgressive.

All politicians should be scantily clad women. You've gone in a good direction with AOC and Gabby, but needs to be across the board. I mean if they're all gonna be POS who fuck us over, at least make them nice to look at.

Aug 21, 2020 21:36:04 GMT @ness said:

All politicians should be scantily clad women. You've gone in a good direction with AOC and Gabby, but needs to be across the board. I mean if they're all gonna be POS who fuck us over, at least make them nice to look at.

This is the negativity thread, bro. This is the most positive idea I've ever heard.

Aug 21, 2020 20:03:47 GMT mikec said:

Aug 21, 2020 14:11:58 GMT rad said:

Absolutely amazing that nothing political has been said yet. Well done PW, I'm proud of ya'll. Time for me to completely shit on that...

I hate being shamed for having moderate views, as if I'm taking the easy way out. Or as Philly's own Ronald MacDonald once brilliantly put it: "I'm playing both sides so I always come out on top!" That's not at all what it's about.

Tired of being shamed for voting 3rd party by two groups of grown children who cry for politics that will benefit the people, when time and time again they just accept their fate and vote against their own interests. How exactly am I the problem again? "Vote Blue No Matter Who" is the dumbest shit I've heard.

Sadly, Trump is going to win: I guarantee it. The dems only have themselves to blame, so stop blaming me and other 3rd party voters for voting in what they believe. No self-respecting progressive should EVER be voting for Biden/Harris, point blank.

I also hate this notion of "with us or against us" that's applied to you if you so choose to remain friends with someone who just happens to think differently than you. I love my conservative friends, so fuck you and grow the fuck up.

I’m fascinated by how you consider yourself moderate yet too progressive for Biden. Please explain!

Moderate was not the right terminology to use, I've just gotten so used to being called that. "Center-left" would be more apt for how I feel these days, but I don't believe in fully subscribing to every platform or belief simply because you're following party lines. There are facets of libertarian belief, conservatism and even socialism that I agree with.  

I was more so calling out the progressive base of the left for shaming others like me simply because we refuse to waste our vote on a guy who likes little children touching his leg hair and a VP who preaches equality and justice but has a record of anything but prison reform during her time as California's DOA. 

For the record, Jo Jorgensen is an equally terrible option in my eyes.

Aug 21, 2020 17:15:13 GMT Todd said:

The Young Bucks are the worst thing to happen to mainstream wrestling since the last 20 years of Vince McMahon. The fact these little children consider themselves to be as great as the RnR, the Hardy's, the Midnight. Are they for fucking real. They have nothing that hundreds of indy wrestlers don't have. They jump around and sell nothing. It depresses me that wrestling fans like it.

I am sick to death of sarcastic, pseudo-intellectual cunts on Reddit being incapable of having a logical discussion regarding coronavirus shielding vs. the economy. These people think they're smarter than the average person. They are thick as shit. They act as though the economy doesn't depend on people and that people don't depend on the economy. I hope they all get set on fire.

Twitter and Reddit are the same, they are echo chambers.
People don't engage in debate, they just ridicule and straw man everything.
My city is in a stage 4 lockdown, which is ludicrous, it is going to cause unemployment, poverty and misery on a mass scale.
I 100% support compulsory masks and social distancing but I think shutting everything down is unsustainable.
Yet anyone who makes any case against the lockdown is attacked for wanting to do nothing... And let everyone die... How is that a rational discussion?

Your position on voting is very ideological, I do see it as insane to allow the candidate that least aligns with your position because you didn't get the candidate you wanted.

But I agree that Trump has a real chance. Biden needs to be in the centre or a progressive if he tries to be both, he will be neither. In all honesty to win he has to drop the progressives, he's not Bernie, and those Bernie supporting do nones will not support him, so he needs to fully go after the centre, where most of the votes are... He needs to speak in support of the police and be pro law and order.

Aug 21, 2020 17:27:57 GMT 🤯 said:

Wait...

What's wrong with being pro-mask?

The issue isn't being pro-mask, it's being so pro-mask that you live in a fantasy world where you expect anyone and everyone to just stay home all the time, when also regarding the state of the economy as: "Chill bro, it'll buff out!" 

By that logic: no, no it won't. You can follow CDC guidelines and also not be a pompous moral douche about it, too.

Anti-maskers are just as bad though. It's your right to not wear a mask, but at least properly distance yourselves from others if you do so. And if the store doesn't allow you to shop there, buy online or find another shop rather than acting like a political martyr about the whole situation.

Kinda goes without saying, but you DEFINITELY should't be coughing/spitting on people. That behavior was unacceptable before Covid, not sure why someone would think it's suddenly okay now.  

Aug 21, 2020 17:27:18 GMT 🤯 said:

Aug 21, 2020 17:15:13 GMT Todd said:

The Young Bucks are the worst thing to happen to mainstream wrestling since the last 20 years of Vince McMahon. The fact these little children consider themselves to be as great as the RnR, the Hardy's, the Midnight. Are they for fucking real. They have nothing that hundreds of indy wrestlers don't have. They jump around and sell nothing. It depresses me that wrestling fans like it.

I am sick to death of sarcastic, pseudo-intellectual cunts on Reddit being incapable of having a logical discussion regarding coronavirus shielding vs. the economy. These people think they're smarter than the average person. They are thick as shit. They act as though the economy doesn't depend on people and that people don't depend on the economy. I hope they all get set on fire.

I actually like this post!

(But also feel like I shouldn't, and shouldn't be smashing the like button in this thread... )

As the Good Doctor always says.

Smash that like button, or I'll smash you.

Also the best things happen...

...in the dark.

Aug 22, 2020 0:08:56 GMT rad said:

Aug 21, 2020 17:27:57 GMT 🤯 said:

Wait...

What's wrong with being pro-mask?

The issue isn't being pro-mask, it's being so pro-mask that you live in a fantasy world where you expect anyone and everyone to just stay home all the time, when also regarding the state of the economy as: "Chill bro, it'll buff out!" 

By that logic: no, no it won't. You can follow CDC guidelines and also not be a pompous moral douche about it, too.

Anti-maskers are just as bad though. It's your right to not wear a mask, but at least properly distance yourselves from others if you do so. And if the store doesn't allow you to shop there, buy online or find another shop rather than acting like a political martyr about the whole situation.

Kinda goes without saying, but you DEFINITELY should't be coughing/spitting on people. That behavior was unacceptable before Covid, not sure why someone would think it's suddenly okay now.  

I think you have confused two issues:
1. Masks reduce transmission and we should all support mask wearing
2. The idea that the only focus should be eliminating all deaths from Coronavirus regardless of the consequences is dangerous moralism.

It's easy to say one death from coronavirus is too many, but what if that moralism condems 100 to death later for the sake of the one now. That's the part you are right to be agitated about.
In the US though you definitely have a real world case of not doing nearly enough contrasted against the wokerati who want everything crushed.

Much in the same way you can't call out BLM for being insane Marxists without being labelled a racist.
Even when they drive through residential neighbourhoods in the middle of the night screaming that the hard working residents who bought those houses, should give them back... It's a strange world.

I hate BLM the organisation, not the sentiment that black people have it rough.

Aug 22, 2020 0:42:43 GMT iNCY said:

Aug 22, 2020 0:08:56 GMT rad said:

The issue isn't being pro-mask, it's being so pro-mask that you live in a fantasy world where you expect anyone and everyone to just stay home all the time, when also regarding the state of the economy as: "Chill bro, it'll buff out!" 

By that logic: no, no it won't. You can follow CDC guidelines and also not be a pompous moral douche about it, too.

Anti-maskers are just as bad though. It's your right to not wear a mask, but at least properly distance yourselves from others if you do so. And if the store doesn't allow you to shop there, buy online or find another shop rather than acting like a political martyr about the whole situation.

Kinda goes without saying, but you DEFINITELY should't be coughing/spitting on people. That behavior was unacceptable before Covid, not sure why someone would think it's suddenly okay now.  

I think you have confused two issues:
1. Masks reduce transmission and we should all support mask wearing
2. The idea that the only focus should be eliminating all deaths from Coronavirus regardless of the consequences is dangerous moralism.

It's easy to say one death from coronavirus is too many, but what if that moralism condems 100 to death later for the sake of the one now. That's the part you are right to be agitated about.
In the US though you definitely have a real world case of not doing nearly enough contrasted against the wokerati who want everything crushed.

Much in the same way you can't call out BLM for being insane Marxists without being labelled a racist.
Even when they drive through residential neighbourhoods in the middle of the night screaming that the hard working residents who bought those houses, should give them back... It's a strange world.

I hate BLM the organisation, not the sentiment that black people have it rough.

No confusion I think, just very poorly worded probably.

2 is mostly the point I was reaching for but you just said it way more eloquently and poignantly than I did myself. 

I totally agree with 1, 100% support it. But I also realize that it's your right to not wear one, whether I agree with that or not. I'm really not trying to die on that hill though, as anti-maskers and poor education/knowledge on the topic are both big reasons why this has become such an issue here. I guess what I'm trying to say is "I can't physically force you to wear a mask, so if you wanna be an idiot about it, please stand more than 6 feet away from me". 

I get this was just used as an example, but since we're on the topic: Agreed that BLM has marxist members/leaders; don't agree that all of BLM are marxists, in much the same fashion that I don't believe all Trump voters are racists. Not at all saying that's what you were insinuating. Much like how I don't condemn the police for the actions of a few bad cops, I try to extend that very same notion to protesters... or almost any group really, unless you're a nazi skinhead/fascist, I guess. I don't believe in violent protesting unless it is absolutely 100% necessary (re: American Revolution), but if you're going to do that, you definitely shouldn't be targeting residential properties or small businesses within your own community. Go to the source if that's your aim, not indiscriminately burning, looting and rioting anything in sight. 

That's the weird thing about the USA rad, to me as an Australian, the obsession with individual liberties.

The issue with than mind set is that people are rarely the ones who face the costs of their own decisions.

I lump anti maskers and anti vaxers in the same category. They are choosing to place their own rights above others. The problem with both those groups is that it will most often be the the most defenceless that pay the costs for their liberties, such as children with lukemia and other vulnerable groups.

It's why I have contempt for many gun owners who refuse to see maintaining the right to own an Ak-47 has the unintended consequences of feeding into the body count of a school shooting.

Just weight it all up and own your shit, both intended and unintended consequences, that's my only real point to people.

Don’t get me started with the anti mask or worse the people who claim the virus is fake 😂 ask System lol

Know what's worse than people not wearing masks YOU MOTHERFUCKERS who wear masks and then throw them on the ground outside.

Fuck you.

Didn't take long to become political..

Aug 22, 2020 1:40:14 GMT @ness said:

Know what's worse than people not wearing masks YOU MOTHERFUCKERS who wear masks and then throw them on the ground outside.

Fuck you.

@ness,you have never been more right about anything. This disgusts me and it's everywhere here outside supermarkets.

Aug 22, 2020 1:31:20 GMT pduh said:

Don’t get me started with the anti mask or worse the people who claim the virus is fake 😂 ask System lol

The fake thing is weird, because I know Covid is not fake... I have had it... My Dad nearly died of it.. But the hysteria is entirely fake.
In Australia the survival rate is 99.84% so control the virus but it's not the apocalypse people paint it to be.
I really hate things getting hijacked for agendas and reactions that are disproportionate to the problem.

I also hate the climate extinction people, full of outrage but no solutions..
Like so many people today.

Aug 22, 2020 0:22:40 GMT Big Pete said:

Aug 21, 2020 17:27:18 GMT 🤯 said:

I actually like this post!

(But also feel like I shouldn't, and shouldn't be smashing the like button in this thread... )

As the Good Doctor always says.

Smash that like button, or I'll smash you.

Also the best things happen...

...in the dark.

Going to break one of my rules here. Feel free to punish me/ourselves by posting Baron Corbin gifs so we can reset the mood here, but:

Big Pete just earned so many cool points for being a Lazy Masquerade fan.

I know we've been having fun with the negativity and I'm sorry to get more serious, but... today in particular has been hard; Harder than usual. I can't sleep, barely ate and this emotional weight has been burdening me for the past six years.

I've never opened up to you guys about my personal life (outside of my life project on FF and other random details) for fear of possibly being rejected, judged or looked down upon for whatever reason. I've learned a lot about life (let alone wrestling) from you guys sharing your own experiences. I know we barely talked but finding out that Kem committed suicide really hit home for me. I'd be lying if I said I haven't contemplated it myself in the past. I'm the kind of person where by typing out (or talking about) these feelings, accepting them and allowing myself to just feel around people I love and trust is 1000x more therapeutic than seeing a psychiatrist. I also figured one of you may have had a similar experience to mine and could relate, but I seriously hope not; I wouldn't wish it on anyone in the world.

My best friend was in a motorcycle crash six years ago. He was rear-ended from behind while driving his motorcycle from work to home. He wore a helmet 24/7 when riding but for whatever reason on that day, he didn't. Needless to say, it resulted in a TBI and now he can't talk and is pretty limited in his motor function skills. I know this sounds dark but it's true: with death there is closure over time. This? This is a god damn nightmare. Seeing the most adventurous, spirited, loving, passionate and creative soul I've ever befriended be reduced to a literal shell of himself... I still haven't properly dealt with this pain.

The kicker is I never feel like I can even talk about it without most friends and family who knew him saying: "He's not dead", "He's still here", "He wouldn't want you beat yourself up" and, god forbid, "He'll get better one day" has been thrown in my face more times than I can count. I know there's good intentions there, but half the time I just want to Bart Simpson strangle these people and scream in their face: "NO HE'S NOT! NO HE WON'T! YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE THIRD ONE, BUT STOP GIVING ME AND OTHERS FALSE HOPE!" If that wasn't bad enough, I've been shamed before for not seeing him in person enough from an acquaintance who barely knew him... as if they understood what it's like to see someone who had such vitality become confined to a wheelchair and have to eat liquid food from a straw. He's the very reason I even started playing guitar but sadly this was after the accident and we never even got to play together. I'd give anything and all the money in the world to experience that.

I'm so glad I at least have his music to remember him by so I won't forget his voice. One of the few times we actually jammed (percussion= this guy) and bar none my favorite song of his: 



I've put off sharing this because it always sounds like I'm searching for pity and sympathy, but I'm not. I don't want either of those things: I just want my best friend back and I just wanted to write this somewhere where I could vent those feelings without potentially being judged for feeling this way. Thank you if you read this: Please, please wear a helmet, watch out for bikers and always tell those you love that you love them.

It's okay to grieve rad, the person who was your friend is gone and you being there for him now is you honouring the friendship you had and the person he was.

If you love and live long enough, you will experience this pain. You got to look it in the eyes and let it be a part of who you are and move on with the pain knowing it will always suck but it won't always be so raw. And as Te passes you will feel joy and other people will come into your life that fill it with life.

Death and loss are a part of life brother, it's how we know we are alive, without loss we wouldn't know love and with no sorrow what is joy? It's not about getting over things or not getting over things... It's about just getting on..
And being open to joy.

Why is it I have to put extra sauce down if I want any sauce at all on my pizza when ordering?

Cancel culture and the fuckheads online who promote it. People make mistakes , people sometimes say shit , it happens and we are all human. Doesn’t mean their entire life and livelihood needs to end.

And obviously I’m not talking about the actual heinous acts where people deserve to lose everything.

Mother fuckers who promote this kind of culture better be infallible , but they’re not. They are merely hypocrites.

Aug 22, 2020 22:38:55 GMT UT said:

Cancel culture and the fuckheads online who promote it. People make mistakes , people sometimes say shit , it happens and we are all human. Doesn’t mean their entire life and livelihood needs to end.

And obviously I’m not talking about the actual heinous acts where people deserve to lose everything.

Mother fuckers who promote this kind of culture better be infallible , but they’re not. They are merely hypocrites.

Hate that shit like this all stems to tweets or posts from like 20 years ago. Just found out a character I love won't be returning because some no lives uncovered questionable tweets he made years ago. Hate that it's instant firings over this, never babysteps after an apology. Ugh.

Aug 22, 2020 22:58:40 GMT @ness said:

Aug 22, 2020 22:38:55 GMT UT said:

Cancel culture and the fuckheads online who promote it. People make mistakes , people sometimes say shit , it happens and we are all human. Doesn’t mean their entire life and livelihood needs to end.

And obviously I’m not talking about the actual heinous acts where people deserve to lose everything.

Mother fuckers who promote this kind of culture better be infallible , but they’re not. They are merely hypocrites.

Hate that shit like this all stems to tweets or posts from like 20 years ago. Just found out a character I love won't be returning because some no lives uncovered questionable tweets he made years ago. Hate that it's instant firings over this, never babysteps after an apology. Ugh.

Here's the thing, the moment you get remotely famous, clean your social media out.

Every generation does and says stupid shit, ours just records all of it.

Hey 🤯 maybe that's why people been deleting their accounts here!

Aug 23, 2020 0:45:39 GMT @ness said:

Hey 🤯 maybe that's why people been deleting their accounts here!

PW has been making people famous a la 2000-2001 American Bad Ass Undertaker!?

Aug 23, 2020 0:45:39 GMT @ness said:

Hey 🤯 maybe that's why people been deleting their accounts here!

"I have a previously undocumented mental health issue and also will happily undergo sensitivity training to help me understand my actions and how they impact others."

I'm ready if my employer finds PW.

Some wrestling fans can be so annoying, myself included at times. Too many of us have no patience for long term booking anymore and we only want instant gratification most of the time. We have a lot of trouble just letting things breathe and flesh out, but then respond negatively when a promotion realizes this and starts paying lip service to these short-sighted desires.

Fans: "Oh shit, that sucked... why did you do that!?"

Promotion: "... Because that's what you wanted? The fuck!?"

Do not ALWAYS listen to the fans. We are fickle marks most times with unrealistic expectations, limited patience and a mobile computer in our pocket that keeps us stimulated 24/7. Approach wrestling angles like you would approach a movie, play, novel, network series, etc.: establish precedent, build tension, keep people guessing and then pull the trigger when the time feels right.  

 

Aug 25, 2020 6:26:45 GMT rad said:

Some wrestling fans can be so annoying, myself included at times. Too many of us have no patience for long term booking anymore and we only want instant gratification most of the time. We have a lot of trouble just letting things breathe and flesh out, but then respond negatively when a promotion realizes this and starts paying lip service to these short-sighted desires.

Fans: "Oh shit, that sucked... why did you do that!?"

Promotion: "... Because that's what you wanted? The fuck!?"

Do not ALWAYS listen to the fans. We are fickle marks most times with unrealistic expectations, limited patience and a mobile computer in our pocket that keeps us stimulated 24/7. Approach wrestling angles like you would approach a movie, play, novel, network series, etc.: establish precedent, build tension, keep people guessing and then pull the trigger when the time feels right.   

Is this a Baron Corbin burner account?

Aug 22, 2020 22:38:55 GMT UT said:

Cancel culture and the fuckheads online who promote it. People make mistakes , people sometimes say shit , it happens and we are all human. Doesn’t mean their entire life and livelihood needs to end.

And obviously I’m not talking about the actual heinous acts where people deserve to lose everything.

Mother fuckers who promote this kind of culture better be infallible , but they’re not. They are merely hypocrites.

I have added to this in the past but I'm trying to get better and give people the benefit of the doubt when I think it's necessary and especially when people seem to be earnest and striving for personal growth.

People came down way too hard on Sammy Guevara, disregarding that Sammy was young and dumb when he posted that and is still fucking young at this moment. It was a stupid fucking joke, YES, definitely. But he didn't hide away from it and has been striving to better himself and made amends with Sasha. By all means, hold people accountable for things they say, but let's not act like we're burning witches at the stake here and that everyone is perfect. 

I literally made a stupid, dumb, ignorant joke about a Middle Easterner just the other day in defense of someone black because said poster was being a racist POS. I have no history of being an Islamophobe/racist and I was very ashamed of myself for doing that. I later posted an apology, saying I regret that comment, I should be better than that and that fighting prejudice with prejudice solves nothing. People say, post and do stupid shit: it happens. Personal accountability is what truly matters.

Cancel Culture is like the ring-wing commentary that floods social media, If you don't go looking for it, you won't see it. It's a fantastic way to live. 

There's a show on Aussie TV, that basically chases down what they call lefty lunacy. No one this side of the equator was aware that a child care centre in rural Pennsylvania removed black crayons because it offended a single local do-gooder WASP. So why the fuck are you ranting about it for 30 minutes on the other side of the world? 

People are so intent on being negative all the time. In saying that, I'm glad Ben Sharpio is being mocked relentlessly on social media - the man deserves a kick in the teeth from a irate billy-goat. 

I hate being a homeowner. I would have been happy renting for the rest of my life after the bullshit we are dealing with.

So the main water line valve inside our home is leaking. To fix it we had to call the city to do a pre check and turn off the water. So they come do the pre check and determine the main water line valve outside our home is also crap so the city has to come in and dig up our patio and backyard to fix it AT OUR EXPENSE. Inspectors don’t check for it so how would we have known or been prepared for this extra cost on top of all the other extra costs. At this point I’m about ready to pay someone to burn it down and collect the insurance money.