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Post by 🤯 on Dec 5, 2020 20:24:11 GMT
Both Fight Club and Truman Show were interesting views into the human psyche and social experiments, but not ones I’d watch again. You're not wrong, Truman Show and Fight Club are very similar.
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Post by mikec on Dec 5, 2020 20:41:17 GMT
I liked Truman Show as a concept more than in practice. I admire the idea and there are a few interesting ideas that they put in (live action product placement) but generally I find Truman incredibly dull and I don’t really understand why anyone would watch his show.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 5, 2020 22:40:25 GMT
I liked Truman Show as a concept more than in practice. I admire the idea and there are a few interesting ideas that they put in (live action product placement) but generally I find Truman incredibly dull and I don’t really understand why anyone would watch his show. To be fair, I say the same thing about the Bachelor(ette) and Big Brother and yet they still draw an audience and a following similar to what Truman had.
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Post by thereallt on Dec 5, 2020 23:37:21 GMT
I haven't seen The Truman Show yet, and the concept is something I normally would dig very much.
But #18 on the list? C'mon I doubt it's that good.
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Post by mikec on Dec 5, 2020 23:37:32 GMT
I liked Truman Show as a concept more than in practice. I admire the idea and there are a few interesting ideas that they put in (live action product placement) but generally I find Truman incredibly dull and I don’t really understand why anyone would watch his show. To be fair, I say the same thing about the Bachelor(ette) and Big Brother and yet they still draw an audience and a following similar to what Truman had. I’ve never seen Bachelor, but at least those have a competition (and heavy editing) element. I know there were highlight packages but Truman was mostly a live stream feed of the mundane parts of life right?
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Post by The Kid on Dec 5, 2020 23:41:47 GMT
I haven't seen The Truman Show yet, and the concept is something I normally would dig very much. But #18 on the list? C'mon I doubt it's that good. It’s not that good.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 6, 2020 0:45:58 GMT
To be fair, I say the same thing about the Bachelor(ette) and Big Brother and yet they still draw an audience and a following similar to what Truman had. I’ve never seen Bachelor, but at least those have a competition (and heavy editing) element. I know there were highlight packages but Truman was mostly a live stream feed of the mundane parts of life right? I mean, I want to agree... But then aren't like streamers a thing right now? Just streaming their days everyday and cashing in on followers?
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Post by Ness on Dec 6, 2020 0:50:47 GMT
I’ve never seen Bachelor, but at least those have a competition (and heavy editing) element. I know there were highlight packages but Truman was mostly a live stream feed of the mundane parts of life right? I mean, I want to agree... But then aren't like streamers a thing right now? Just streaming their days everyday and cashing in on followers? Yeah but they have something Truman doesn't. Tits.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 6, 2020 2:10:09 GMT
Remember, people were watching his life unfold. And the producers were creating dramatic moments in his life to captivate the viewers. Big Brother basically just follows people in a house they know is bugged. Truman had no idea that every second of his life was being recorded and watched by the world. Can't tell if it's what you're trying to do, but it's making Truman Show sound like an infinitely more compelling concept than Big Brother.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 6, 2020 13:13:29 GMT
Can't tell if it's what you're trying to do, but it's making Truman Show sound like an infinitely more compelling concept than Big Brother. Big Brother is stupid. Truman Show is fantastic. It’s like comparing a colonoscopy and a steak dinner. The overwhelming majority of people would prefer the steak dinner. But there are still some weirdos who would prefer the colonoscopy. Truman Show is a steak dinner. It’s enjoyable and leaves you satisfied. Big Brother is the colonoscopy. It serves its purpose but only weirdos enjoy it. Beautifully clarified.
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Post by Ness on Dec 6, 2020 13:13:53 GMT
I want a steak.
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Post by bodyslam on Dec 6, 2020 14:13:03 GMT
Can't tell if it's what you're trying to do, but it's making Truman Show sound like an infinitely more compelling concept than Big Brother. Big Brother is stupid. Truman Show is fantastic. It’s like comparing a colonoscopy and a steak dinner. The overwhelming majority of people would prefer the steak dinner. But there are still some weirdos who would prefer the colonoscopy. Truman Show is a steak dinner. It’s enjoyable and leaves you satisfied. Big Brother is the colonoscopy. It serves its purpose but only weirdos enjoy it. Have you ever had a colonoscopy?
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 6, 2020 14:18:06 GMT
Dr. Emperor, our shared favorites are falling fast now! So glad this was so strongly recommended to me a few years back. It's impeccable. A timeless class. An interesting premise executed flawlessly.
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Post by UT on Dec 6, 2020 14:23:27 GMT
Yes 12 Angry Men is damn near as flawless as movie making can be , my top rated recommendation from the lists and one I'm happy I watched.
It works on so many levels , sadly it's still relevant today which I think is a major reason why it resonated with me so well. The tension of this movie despite it exclusively only being the same 12 guys in the same room is unmatched and something every director should strive for - the shooting , the script , the performances all make it timeless.
The black and white also plays perfectly with it , I couldn't imagine it in color considering it's telling a simple story in there of right vs wrong , good vs evil and dark vs light. One of the few cases for me personally that B&W enhanced the movie ten fold.
If you haven't seen it , just watch it. I don't know how anyone could be disappointed.
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Post by UT on Dec 6, 2020 14:24:35 GMT
Big Brother is stupid. Truman Show is fantastic. It’s like comparing a colonoscopy and a steak dinner. The overwhelming majority of people would prefer the steak dinner. But there are still some weirdos who would prefer the colonoscopy. Truman Show is a steak dinner. It’s enjoyable and leaves you satisfied. Big Brother is the colonoscopy. It serves its purpose but only weirdos enjoy it. Have you ever had a colonoscopy? No but I watched Truman Show , can't be that much of a difference.
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Post by bodyslam on Dec 6, 2020 14:39:02 GMT
Have you ever had a colonoscopy? No but I watched Truman Show , can't be that much of a difference. Thats giving the Truman Show too much credit. I'd say its more like a colonoscopy prep.
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Post by bodyslam on Dec 6, 2020 14:39:31 GMT
12 Angry Men was my 55 and it should have been higher on my list. Henry Fonda is awesome. He made my list 3 times with 12 Angry Men being the highest.
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Post by thereallt on Dec 6, 2020 15:01:21 GMT
12 Angry Men didn't make my list, but it is a legitimately great film nonetheless. No complaints whatsoever about it's ranking.
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Post by Emperor on Dec 6, 2020 15:05:28 GMT
1. Good Will Hunting 2. 12 Angry Men 3. Training Day 4. Oldboy 6. Gladiator 8. Matchstick Men 10. The Truman Show 11. Unforgiven 12. Mr. Smith Goes To Washington 14. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid 15. Silver Linings Playbook 18. Throne of Blood 24. Aliens 25. The Sting 27. Spirited Away 29. Logan 31. Parasite 32. Elf 37. Inside Out 38. The Apartment 39. The Green Mile 40. Beauty and the Beast 42. Jaws 43. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince 44. In Bruges 46. The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 51. The Shining 53. The Prestige 55. Groundhog Day 60. Catch Me If You Can 61. Django Unchained 62. The Conjuring 64. Alien 69. Paranormal Activity 70. No Country For Old Men 72. Tombstone 81. Terminator 2: Judgment Day 84. Wayne's World 86. John Wick 87. Toy Story 3 88. Saw 96. Memento
12 Angry Men is a masterpiece. A perfect piece of cinema. A phenomenal achievment considering the story is told entirely through the conversation of 12 men sat in the same room. Through dialogue alone you learn deeply about the characters who are gathered in that room, and about the subject of the court case itself. Flawless.
I was going to keep my Truman Show avatar around until a higher film from my list placed. That moment came sooner than expected.
So we'll have to say a premature Good Afternoon, Good Evening and Good Night to Truman.
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Post by Shootist on Dec 6, 2020 18:04:49 GMT
Damn, I had 12 Angry Men on my first draft of guesses and took it off. Truman Show was out of left field though, two films I've put on my watch list anyway.
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Post by iron maiden on Dec 6, 2020 22:14:50 GMT
12 Angry Men...and a woman could be the name of this thread or forum.
This movie 100% deserves to be on a Top 100 list. A memorable classic. However, I did not put it on my personal one as it’s not one I revisit.
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Post by UT on Dec 6, 2020 22:17:58 GMT
12 Angry Men...and a woman could be the name of this thread or forum. This movie 100% deserves to be on a Top 100 list. A memorable classic. However, I did not put it on my personal one as it’s not one I revisit. 12 Angry Men and An Angrier Woman would be more accurate.
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Post by Emperor on Dec 6, 2020 22:49:18 GMT
Great idea iron maiden. We need a 12 Angry Men..and a Woman style roundtable debate on a contentious issue. For example, Scream. We would have to unanimously decide whether Scream is a good movie or a bad movie. The discussion doesn't end until a conclusion is reached. Of course either UT or thereallt has to be Lee J. Cobb's character. 🤯 is the baseball fan, who just wants to go home and see some titties instead of sweating in a cramped room. Who am I? Well, Henry Fonda of course. The flawless, reasonable protagonist :lol:
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Post by UT on Dec 6, 2020 23:01:09 GMT
LT is the juror with the least important opinion on the matter.
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Post by Strobe on Dec 7, 2020 0:43:26 GMT
I was wrong earlier, as The Truman Show (290) was my second highest-ranked Carrey. A great concept well-executed with good performances and some very memorable moments.
12 Angry Men (18) is exceptional. Superbly acted and fantastically directed with great camerawork and framing. When I first watched it, I was swept along by Fonda, convinced like the other jurors. The film is designed to make you see Fonda as a hero, taking a moral stance, exposing flaws of the other jurors and saving an innocent man's life. The more I thought about it, I thought about the manipulation of Juror 8, his desire to see the kid to go free, his twisting of the concept of reasonable doubt to be any doubt. Was the kid guilty? Possibly. Should he have been found guilty beyond reasonable doubt? Possibly. I don't think either matters ultimately and that is sort of the point. That is why we aren't shown whether he actually did it or not. It is a film about the jury system and a thought-provoking one at that.
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Post by thereallt on Dec 7, 2020 2:01:20 GMT
LT is the juror with the least important opinion on the matter. LOL say what? Like I've said it was the first slasher you ever saw and your opinion is colored similar to a man who married the first woman he slept with. Your opinion is by far the most biased I've ever seen on the film. you ranked it #1 for fuck's sake.
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Post by UT on Dec 7, 2020 2:04:55 GMT
LT is the juror with the least important opinion on the matter. LOL say what? Like I've said it was the first slasher you ever saw and your opinion is colored similar to a man who married the first woman he slept with. Your opinion is by far the most biased I've ever seen on the film. you ranked it #1 for fuck's sake. And your correlation is redundant and fucking stupid. You keep saying it, and it sounds more and more dumb every time. I’ll put my slasher viewing up against anyone and every one.
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Post by thereallt on Dec 7, 2020 2:20:36 GMT
LOL say what? Like I've said it was the first slasher you ever saw and your opinion is colored similar to a man who married the first woman he slept with. Your opinion is by far the most biased I've ever seen on the film. you ranked it #1 for fuck's sake. And your correlation is redundant and fucking stupid. You keep saying it, and it sounds more and more dumb every time. I’ll put my slasher viewing up against anyone and every one. Case in point. You've seen other better slashers yet none of them compare to your beloved Scream. it's the perfect analogy.
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Post by UT on Dec 7, 2020 2:32:00 GMT
And your correlation is redundant and fucking stupid. You keep saying it, and it sounds more and more dumb every time. I’ll put my slasher viewing up against anyone and every one. Case in point. You've seen other better slashers yet none of them compare to your beloved Scream. it's the perfect analogy. Who said they were better? There are a bunch of great ones that I love , but Scream is my favorite. It’s a dumb analogy , because I didn’t “marry Scream” I wasn’t monogamous with Scream. If I had watched Scream and decided to never watch another slasher again because I loved it so much it might make sense. It’s just dumb on so many levels.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 7, 2020 2:38:56 GMT
Would I be dismissed as a juror for not having seen Scream?
I Still Know What You Did Last Summer though...
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