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Post by UT on Dec 9, 2020 14:57:24 GMT
I rushed because there is really nothing else to say about Departed at this point. Every word that could possibly be written on the movie has been said at one time or another in these countdowns.
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Post by Strobe on Dec 9, 2020 15:17:09 GMT
I would be more likely to agree with the opinion that The Departed is the 14th best Scorsese film than the 14th best film ever. Not that I have it that low for Scorsese films but it is down at like 8th or so and I have plenty still unseen. And it isn't that I don't think it is a very good movie. But it isn't beyond that for me and I preferred the original Infernal Affairs over it from memory.
The Departed was one of the films I really wanted to rewatch during this countdown and I kept putting it off, since I knew it would be very high. I had planned to watch it this weekend, but alas, I left it too late. I still plan to and I'll give up to date thoughts then.
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Post by The Kid on Dec 9, 2020 16:11:11 GMT
I would be more likely to agree with the opinion that The Departed is the 14th best Scorsese film than the 14th best film ever. Not that I have it that low for Scorsese films but it is down at like 8th or so and I have plenty still unseen. And it isn't that I don't think it is a very good movie. But it isn't beyond that for me and I preferred the original Infernal Affairs over it from memory. The Departed was one of the films I really wanted to rewatch during this countdown and I kept putting it off, since I knew it would be very high. I had planned to watch it this weekend, but alas, I left it too late. I still plan to and I'll give up to date thoughts then.
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Post by thereallt on Dec 9, 2020 16:27:42 GMT
I probably should have ranked The Departed somewhere but to be honest I'm getting a little sick of it. I still have it on Scorsese's Mt. Rushmore due to the Oscar win, but If I'm keeping it real it's maybe his 5th best movie. I would take Goodfellas, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver and Mean Streets over it.
I definitely have it on Leo's Mt. Rushmore (Titanic, Wolf of Wall Street, Inception, and Departed) Matt Damon's as well (Good Will Hunting, The Bourne Identity, The Departed, and The Martian) Alas It dosen't make Jack Nicholson's (Easy Rider, Chinatown, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and A Few Good Men)
3.The Good The Bad and The Ugly 5.The Godfather Part II 6.Saving Private Ryan 7.The Terminator 9.Bladerunner 11.City of God 12.Star Wars: A New Hope 13.Unforgiven 14.The Dirty Dozen 15.Raging Bull 16.Raiders of the Lost Ark 17.Terminator 2 18.Aliens 19.Schindler's List 20.The Princess Bride. 22.Blazing Saddles 23.Trading Places 24.Alien 25.Guardians of the Galaxy 26.Die Hard With a Vengeance 27.Logan 31.Ghostbusters 34.Training Day 39.The Predator 40.Toy Story 43.Man on Fire 44.Return of the Jedi 45.Halloween 49.Taxi Driver 52.Tombstone 53.John Wick 54.Braveheart 55.Gladiator 56.Jaws 57.The Avengers 69.Chinatown 70.Wolf of Wall Street 72.Seven 73.Boogie Nights 74.Thor:Ragnarok 80.The Godfather 82.Casablance 84. Scarface 85.Heat 87.Full Metal Jacket 90.True Lies 98.The Sandlot 99.The Wizard of Oz 100.Big Trouble in Little China
The Godfather II took everything that was great about the Godfather and took it to the next level. The young Vito scenes especially are why I prefer it over the original. Robert DeNiro knocks it out of the park and this movie is absolutely on his Rushmore (Godfather II, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, Goodfellas) Obviously it's a slam dunk for both Coppola and Pacino as well.
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Post by Emperor on Dec 9, 2020 17:19:00 GMT
1. Good Will Hunting (Gus Van Sant, 1997) 2. 12 Angry Men (Sidney Lumet, 1957) 3. Training Day (Antoine Fuqua, 2001) 4. Oldboy (Park Chan-wook, 2002) 5. The Departed (Martin Scorsese, 2006) 6. Gladiator (Ridley Scott, 2000) 7. The Breakfast Club (John Hughes, 1985) 8. Matchstick Men (Ridley Scott, 2003) 9. Collateral (Michael Mann, 2004) 10. The Truman Show (Peter Weir, 1998) 11. Unforgiven (Clint Eastwood, 1992) 12. Mr. Smith Goes To Washington (Frank Capra, 1939) 14. Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid (George Roy Hill, 1969) 15. Silver Linings Playbook (David O'Russell, 2012) 18. Throne Of Blood (Akira Kurosawa, 1957) 22. Avengers: Infinity War (Russo Brothers, 2018) 23. The Lion King (Disney, 1994) 24. Aliens (James Cameron, 1986) 25. The Sting (George Roy Hill, 1973) 27. Spirited Away (Hayao Miyazaki, 2001) 29. Logan (James Mangold, 2017) 31. Parasite (Bong Joon Ho, 2019) 32. Elf (Jon Favreau, 2003) 37. Inside Out (Pixar, 2015) 38. The Apartment (Billy Wilder, 1960) 39. The Green Mile (Frank Darabont, 1999) 40. Beauty and the Beast (Disney, 1991) 42. Jaws (Steven Spielberg, 1975) 43. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (David Yates, 2009) 44. In Bruges (Martin McDonagh, 2008) 46. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly (Sergio Leone, 1966) 51. The Shining (Stanley Kubrick, 1980) 52. Aladdin (Disney, 1992) 53. The Prestige (Christopher Nolan, 2006) 55. Groundhog Day (Harold Ramis, 1993) 60. Catch Me If You Can (Steven Spielberg, 2002) 61. Django Unchained (Quentin Tarantino, 2012) 62. The Conjuring (James Wan, 2013) 64. Alien (Ridley Scott, 1979) 69. Paranormal Activity (Oren Peli, 2007) 70. No Country For Old Men (Coen Brothers, 2007) 72. Tombstone (George P. Cosmatos, 1993) 81. Terminator 2: Judgment Day (James Cameron, 1991) 83. Wayne's World (Penelope Spheeris, 1992) 86. John Wick (Chad Stahelski, 2014) 87. Toy Story 3 (Pixar, 2010) 88. Saw (James Wan, 2004) 96. Memento (Christopher Nolan, 2000)
The appearance of The Departed rounds off my Top 10, somewhat earlier than expected. Had it at #3 in my Top 20 guesses. The Godfather Part II is certainly a lot more interesting than The Godfather, but not close to a personal Top 100.
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Post by iron maiden on Dec 9, 2020 17:31:49 GMT
I did not have The Departed on my list. I don't remember it resonating that strongly with me. That said, I think I owe it a re-watch because all of you can't be wrong. Godfather II was my #23. Looking back on my list I probably would have placed The Godfather Part I somewhere in the 50's, but alas I had it slated in my not yet finished 66-100 slots. Part II took everything I loved about I and ramped it up. Amazing cinematography, emotional storylines, etc. Every actor was perfection. One of my all time faves. I usually re-watch the trilogy yearly around Christmastime because what's Christmas without some mob violence?
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Post by PB on Dec 9, 2020 18:16:19 GMT
2. The Godfather Part II (1974, Francis Ford Coppola)
In an ideal world I just count the two Godfather films as one entry at number two on my list, as they are both inseparable masterpieces in my mind. I always flip between which one I prefer. I think I prefer the pace of Part I. It's slower and less showy and more immersive. But in Part II the young Vito is the most fascinating part and De Niro gives an astounding performance. It's both grander than Part I in showing the big sweep of corruption integral to understanding modern America, whilst also being more in-depth in terms of analysing the characters. I think Duvall is the most underrated actor in the world, and his performance here is one of my favourites. Part II also features maybe my favourite shot in a film: 3. It's a Wonderful Life (1946, Frank Capra) 4. Singin' in the Rain (1952, Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly) 5. The Tree of Life (2011, Terrence Malik) 6. The Apartment (1960, Billy Wilder) 8. The Godfather (1972, Francis Ford Coppola) 9. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004, Michel Gondry) 10. Jaws (1975, Steven Spielberg) 11. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003, Peter Jackson) 12. Citizen Kane (1941, Orson Welles) 13. Inside Out (2015, Pete Docter) 15. Blade Runner (1982, Ridley Scott) 19. The Night of the Hunter (1955, Charles Laughton) 21. E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982, Steven Spielberg) 22. Rear Window (1954, Alfred Hitchcock) 23. Psycho (1960, Alfred Hitchcock) 27. Three Colours: Blue (1993, Krzysztof Kieslowski) 29. Avengers: Endgame (2019, Joe and Anthony Russo) 30. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001, Peter Jackson) 31. Batman Begins (2005, Christopher Nolan) 32. Seven (1995, David Fincher) 34. Reservoir Dogs (1992, Quentin Tarantino) 35. 12 Angry Men (1957, Sidney Lumet) 36. Taxi Driver (1976, Martin Scorsese) 39. Toy Story 3 (2010, Lee Unkrich) 41. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002, Peter Jackson) 43. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939, Frank Capra) 50. In Bruges (2008, Martin McDonagh) 55. Chinatown (Roman Polanski, 1974) 56. Memento (2000, Christopher Nolan) 59. Raging Bull (Martin Scorcese, 1980) 60. City of God (2002, Fernando Meirelles) 62. The Departed (2006, Martin Scorcese)
This is a film that goes down in my estimation each year as I see more films and what it does feels less and less special. When I first saw it it was such an evsiceral experience that it became an instant favourite, and whilst I still hold a fond place for it the flaws do grow over time. Mostly Jack Nicholson's performance. I expected it higher but no one could really complain about 14 - that's very high. As far as Scorcese goes when I made my list I had Goodfellas, Taxi Driver, and Raging Bull higher. But on a different day I could easily have King of Comedy, Silence, The Irishman, Mean Streets, and Wolf of Wall Street higher to be honest. 68. Zodiac (2007, David Fincher) 69. Beauty and the Best (1991, Gary Trousdale and Kirk Wise) 76. Groundhog Day (1993, Harold Ramis) 78. The Truman Show (1998, Peter Weir) 82. Avengers: Infinity War (2018, Joe & Anthony Russo) 88. Fight Club (1999, David Fincher) 89. No Country for Old Men (2007, Joel & Ethan Coen) 91. Adaptation (2002, Spike Jonze) 97. The Social Network (2010, David Fincher) 100. Skyfall (2012, Sam Mendes
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 10, 2020 6:48:07 GMT
I think we should pool our money and pay PB to sit at home all day and review films. He has been my favorite part of this thread. Seconded. He can have my bitcoin. I have no idea how to spend it on anything better.
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Post by UT on Dec 10, 2020 18:07:10 GMT
The Big Lebowski is a weird one that I appreciate more and more every time I go back to it. The first viewing left me perplexed for me feelings towards it - I liked some of it a lot but couldn't see the point. The more I watched it I appreciated the fact that there really wasn't a point to the movie and we just got to spend time with these characters in an absolutely insane plot dealing with absurd shit. And for that it's become incredibly rewatchable for me and I appreciate the humor of the movie more and more each time as well.
It's Bridges defining role , he will forever be The Dude as he really personified the character.
Goodman as Sobchak though will always be my favorite character. He brings the most laughs , so much energy and is just so incredible in the role. Like Departed and Dignam - I would pay good money to see a Sobchak movie. Fuck Jesus (who is fine too) but he certainly shouldn't get one before Walter.
#12 is surprisingly high. I know it's a favorite amongst a lot of a generation but I figured it would finish closer to the thirties. I didn't have it this high but it's cool that it made it here.
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Post by iron maiden on Dec 10, 2020 18:22:02 GMT
I liked The Big Lebowski and probably owe it a re-watch as I felt the same way you did UT. I enjoyed it, but have never revisited it and really should as I think it's one I'd likely appreciate more now. I am shocked it placed so high, but I guess I shouldn't be you bunch of dudes.
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Post by Ness on Dec 10, 2020 18:29:43 GMT
Big Leb has a ton of hype and it's meme factor hypes it up even more. I tried to watch it a few years ago. Only got half way before I turned it off. Something just didn't click with me. This high it probably deserves a rewatch.
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Post by The Kid on Dec 10, 2020 18:34:56 GMT
The Big Lebowski OVER Departed AND Godfather 2?!
WHAT
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Post by Ness on Dec 10, 2020 18:36:31 GMT
The Big Lebowski OVER Departed AND Godfather 2?! WHAT THE FUCK?! Can't believe the notebook will top all 3!
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Post by PB on Dec 10, 2020 18:38:40 GMT
Haha - as soon as I saw Lebowski I was waiting for The Kid, reaction.
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Post by The Kid on Dec 10, 2020 18:57:00 GMT
Haha - as soon as I saw Lebowski I was waiting for The Kid , reaction. Because this is fucking ridiculous, to be honest. Lebowski is like the most overrated movie of all time. It's not a bad movie, but this shit is SO OVERRATED. Honestly, I would rather have had Lord of the Rings piss me off this high in the rankings then this movie.
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Post by UT on Dec 10, 2020 19:49:14 GMT
Haha - as soon as I saw Lebowski I was waiting for The Kid, reaction. Me too, especially being right after it. I don’t prefer Lebowski over Departed as I had Departed rated a little higher but Lebowski is great in its own right and completely original and one of a kind - which I appreciate.
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Post by Emperor on Dec 10, 2020 20:35:15 GMT
The Kid knows how I felt when Fight Club popped up. #12 is a bit high but it's a worthy movie for what I presume is PW's favourite comedy. Placed #79 on my own list, but it strikes me as a film that's endlessly rewatchable, even though I've only watched it once so far. It wasn't that far back either, maybe a year ago?
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Post by Ness on Dec 10, 2020 21:19:58 GMT
I guess it’s a highly unpopular opinion but I didn’t care for Big Lebowski at all. It’s been ten years since I saw it but I can’t recall anything that I liked about it. Maybe John Goodman. I love him. He may have been the only reason I got through it. I usually don't agree with your movie takes, but I'm with ya here. 99.99% of the reason I tried watching it was for Goodman. Everyone loves posting that "rules" meme.
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Post by iron maiden on Dec 10, 2020 21:28:36 GMT
I guess it’s a highly unpopular opinion but I didn’t care for Big Lebowski at all. It’s been ten years since I saw it but I can’t recall anything that I liked about it. Maybe John Goodman. I love him. He may have been the only reason I got through it. Other than pegging TMNT above SW jTjohncenaGOAT and I are pretty much on the same wavelength movie wise overall. I appreciate you jTjohncenaGOAT.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 10, 2020 21:52:21 GMT
I can abide by where The Dude ranked.
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Post by thereallt on Dec 10, 2020 21:53:11 GMT
I'll bet good money this will be the most overrated movie to feature on this countdown
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Post by Shootist on Dec 10, 2020 23:25:35 GMT
Going by my list the last 4 movies have been overrated.
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Post by bodyslam on Dec 11, 2020 0:57:39 GMT
Going by my list the last 4 movies have been overrated. the last 3 for sure
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Post by UT on Dec 11, 2020 1:28:10 GMT
Y’all are a bunch of haters. Where’s the Lebowski love? Don’t make me go through my PMs and call you out.
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Post by 🤯 on Dec 11, 2020 2:15:26 GMT
Y’all are a bunch of haters. Where’s the Lebowski love? Don’t make me go through my PMs and call you out. I was going to say The Big Lebowski is like something plus weed, but then I couldn't remember what the something was. If that helps. Also, on a few occasions I've tried mixing hard liquor with milk because of The Dude. Works better for him than it ever did for me. The fact that Jeff Bridges can go from this to Obediah Stane... Love him. Quintessential talent. Still can't remember the something. If it comes to me, hopefully I remember to edit this post.
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Post by PB on Dec 11, 2020 12:28:08 GMT
2. The Godfather Part II (1974, Francis Ford Coppola) 3. It's a Wonderful Life (1946, Frank Capra) 4. Singin' in the Rain (1952, Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly) 5. The Tree of Life (2011, Terrence Malik) 6. The Apartment (1960, Billy Wilder) 8. The Godfather (1972, Francis Ford Coppola) 9. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004, Michel Gondry) 10. Jaws (1975, Steven Spielberg) 11. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003, Peter Jackson) 12. Citizen Kane (1941, Orson Welles) 13. Inside Out (2015, Pete Docter) 15. Blade Runner (1982, Ridley Scott) 19. The Night of the Hunter (1955, Charles Laughton) 21. E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982, Steven Spielberg) 22. Rear Window (1954, Alfred Hitchcock) 23. Psycho (1960, Alfred Hitchcock) 27. Three Colours: Blue (1993, Krzysztof Kieslowski) 29. Avengers: Endgame (2019, Joe and Anthony Russo) 30. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001, Peter Jackson) 31. Batman Begins (2005, Christopher Nolan) 32. Seven (1995, David Fincher) 34. Reservoir Dogs (1992, Quentin Tarantino) 35. 12 Angry Men (1957, Sidney Lumet) 36. Taxi Driver (1976, Martin Scorsese) 39. Toy Story 3 (2010, Lee Unkrich) 41. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002, Peter Jackson) 43. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939, Frank Capra) 50. In Bruges (2008, Martin McDonagh) 55. Chinatown (Roman Polanski, 1974) 56. Memento (2000, Christopher Nolan) 59. Raging Bull (Martin Scorcese, 1980) 60. City of God (2002, Fernando Meirelles) 62. The Departed (2006, Martin Scorcese) 68. Zodiac (2007, David Fincher) 69. Beauty and the Best (1991, Gary Trousdale and Kirk Wise) 76. Groundhog Day (1993, Harold Ramis) 78. The Truman Show (1998, Peter Weir) 82. Avengers: Infinity War (2018, Joe & Anthony Russo) 88. Fight Club (1999, David Fincher) 89. No Country for Old Men (2007, Joel & Ethan Coen) 91. Adaptation (2002, Spike Jonze) 95. The Big Lebowski (1998, Joel [& Ethan] Coen)Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion The Kid ,. Are there lots of people who voted who don't comment? Because I'm really intrigued as to who voted for this so high - but it's a delightful surprise. I think it's too low on my list, but when we did the Coen's list recently I rewatched most of their films but not this one so it's the least fresh in my memory, but I do love it. I totally understand why it's not everyone's cup of tea, but for me it's just riotous good fun and maybe the most quotable film ever. It's intriguing and beguiling and mysterious and yet you never really care if it makes sense or reaches a conclusion because the real joy is just spending time with these characters. It both pokes fun at old fashioned noirs while still paying homage to them. It never takes itself seriously, which is I think why so many people find it so frustrating as they first watch it and do take it seriously. And then the performances are just fantastic. I mean look at Best Actor for this year - the academy clearly had no idea who to give it to so awarded Roberto Benigni. Fine, whatever. But in a just world comedy performances would be taken seriously and Jeff Bridges would have won for the performance of his career instead of a sympathy win for Crazy Heart. And John Goodman is just astoundingly good fun, and Steve Buscemi has never been better either. 97. The Social Network (2010, David Fincher) 100. Skyfall (2012, Sam Mendes
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Post by UT on Dec 11, 2020 13:07:16 GMT
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Post by The Kid on Dec 11, 2020 13:24:22 GMT
Notice the name that's missing? ME. GOOD THING, TOO. Had I voted for it, this movie would've probably been top 5 and that's just fucking disgusting.
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Post by Strobe on Dec 11, 2020 13:28:25 GMT
One thing we can all agree on is that The Big Lebowski is better than The Departed. Chiselled in stone now. P Dub Certified.
The former spawned festivals across the world and even a religion, while the latter got Scorsese his sympathy Oscar to make up for his superior films of the past not winning. No contest really.
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Post by Big Pete on Dec 11, 2020 13:32:40 GMT
I had The Big Lebowski at #65, it was like The Coen Brothers saw North By Northwest and decided to put their own spin on it. I don't brush my teeth to it, but it gets better with each viewing and highlights all the aspects of the Coens style that I like. Namely taking tropes and turning them on their head, character driven plotlines and memorable set pieces.
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