Dec 11, 2020 13:28:25 GMT Strobe said:

One thing we can all agree on is that The Big Lebowski is better than The Departed. Chiselled in stone now. P Dub Certified.

The former spawned festivals across the world and even a religion, while the latter got Scorsese his sympathy Oscar to make up for his superior films of the past not winning. No contest really.

Nailed it.

I don’t brush my teeth to it is a totally new phrase to me and I love it.

Dec 11, 2020 13:24:22 GMT KING KID said:

Dec 11, 2020 13:07:16 GMT UT said:

Yeah!

Baker
Strobe
Big Pete
@theshow
The Dazz
RT

Plus Me , Emp , PI and PB.

Notice the name that's missing? ME.

GOOD THING, TOO.

Had I voted for it, this movie would've probably been top 5 and that's just fucking disgusting.

Yes I notice it , I made the list? 

And you more than likely wouldn't have bumped it a couple spots. 

Dec 11, 2020 13:38:02 GMT PB said:

I don’t brush my teeth to it is a totally new phrase to me and I love it.

Same here. I'm hoping it's a Big Pete original.

Die Hard is great , probably the best action movie of all time and definitely one of the most influential. Iconic roles from Willis and Rickman as arguably the greatest hero/villain combo of all time. Even though With a Vengeance rated higher for me , I recognize the greatness of the original and love what it did for the genre.

Not a ton more to be said that I haven't already other than ... I HATE HATE HATE the Christmas debate shit , like it was fun for awhile but it almost feels now that one of the greatest action movies and greater movies in general is going to be remembered as that movie no one could agree on about Christmas as opposed to remembering it's greatness as a movie itself.

I honestly thought this was going to finish in the Top 5 because of the love it gets here.

Dec 11, 2020 14:02:51 GMT 🤯 said:

Dec 11, 2020 13:38:02 GMT PB said:

I don’t brush my teeth to it is a totally new phrase to me and I love it.

Same here. I'm hoping it's a Big Pete original.

I feel like I've heard it around a few places, I mostly remember it from:

Die Hard didn't make my list. Also didn't make my PW top 20 guess list which is an embarrassing omission.

Pip pip cheerio motherfucker.

Dec 11, 2020 13:38:02 GMT PB said:

I don’t brush my teeth to it is a totally new phrase to me and I love it.

I was thinking the exact same thing when I read it.

I forgot the man love you all have for Die Hard.  I like it.  It's fun.  As an action film I have very little complaints about Die Hard.  Personally I'd put True Lies above it, but I can see why it appeals to most of you. 

I'd likely have put it on my list about 100-120, and I don't watch it at Christmastime.  I'm such a bore.

I gave up commenting until the list was over because I can't keep up with everything.

PB I had The Big Lebowski at #14. One of the most quotable, rewatchable, hilarious movies ever made.

For reference, I had The Departed at #36 and Godfather II at #51

Dec 11, 2020 15:25:11 GMT jTjohncenaGOAT said:

My most embarrassing confession: I’ve never seen Die Hard.

I’ve seen DH:WaV 3-4 times and I think I’ve even seen part 2 before. But aside from a few minutes here and there in waiting rooms when it was on USA or clips on Facebook and such.. I’ve never seen the original.

I don't think I've ever seen Die Hard from start to finish either, but I've watched it in pieces on TV enough that I've definitely seen the entire movie.

The only one from the series I like is Die Hard With a Vengeance. Also I watched Live Free or Die Hard because I went and saw it in theatres, but I'll never watch it again. It was meh.

Dec 11, 2020 14:26:47 GMT Big Pete said:

Dec 11, 2020 14:02:51 GMT 🤯 said:

Same here. I'm hoping it's a Big Pete original.

I feel like I've heard it around a few places, I mostly remember it from:

Super underrated comedy IMO.

2. Jaws (1975)
5. Ghostbusters (1984)
6. Die Hard (1988) My guess: 6
8. The Shining (1980)
9. Rear Window (1954)
11. Apocalypse Now: Redux (2001)
12. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
15. Groundhog Day (1993)
16. Home Alone (1990)
17. Planes, Trains and Automobiles (1987)
19. The Breakfast Club (1985)
21. Clerks (1994)
22. Dumb & Dumber (1994)
23. Alien (1979)
24. Raiders Of The Lost Ark (1981)
25. A Nightmare On Elm Street (1984)
26. Rocky (1976)
29. Rocky IV (1985)
30. Aliens (1986)
33. Raging Bull (1980)
34. Taxi Driver (1976)
35. Happy Gilmore (1996)
38. Fargo (1996)
39. Se7en (1995)
40. Back To The Future Part II (1989)
42. Terminator (1984)
43. Predator (1987)
45. Die Hard: With A Vengeance (1995)
46. Braveheart (1995)
47. Boogie Nights (1997)
48. The Silence Of The Lambs (1991)
52. Terminator 2: Judgement Day (1991)
54. Speed (1994)
56. Full Metal Jacket (1987)
59. Psycho (1960)
66. American Psycho (2000)
67. Falling Down (1993)
71. Reservoir Dogs (1992)
75. Kill Bill Vol.1 (2003)
76. Avengers: Infinity War (2018)
78. Avengers: Endgame (2019)
79. Logan (2017)
81. Batman Begins (2005)
83. Scarface (1983)
86. Halloween (1978)
87. Apollo 13 (1995)
94. One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest (1975)
99. E.T.: The Extra Terrestrial (1982)
100. Vertigo (1958)

I agree that's it's the greatest action movie of all time and yet Lebowski tied it. Don't get me wrong I do enjoy Lebowski but I'm not nearly as obsessed as some fans. A few haven't seen the original and here I am having watched it twice the last two weeks. It was so influential subsequent action movies were "Die Hard on a...." for plot lines.

3.The Good The Bad and The Ugly
5.The Godfather Part II
6.Saving Private Ryan
7.The Terminator
9.Bladerunner
10. Die Hard
11.City of God
12.Star Wars: A New Hope
13.Unforgiven
14.The Dirty Dozen
15.Raging Bull
16.Raiders of the Lost Ark
17.Terminator 2
18.Aliens
19.Schindler's List
20.The Princess Bride.
22.Blazing Saddles
23.Trading Places
24.Alien
25.Guardians of the Galaxy
26.Die Hard With a Vengeance
27.Logan
31.Ghostbusters
34.Training Day
39.The Predator
40.Toy Story
43.Man on Fire
44.Return of the Jedi
45.Halloween
49.Taxi Driver
52.Tombstone
53.John Wick
54.Braveheart
55.Gladiator
56.Jaws
57.The Avengers
69.Chinatown
70.Wolf of Wall Street
72.Seven
73.Boogie Nights
74.Thor:Ragnarok
80.The Godfather
82.Casablance
84. Scarface
85.Heat
87.Full Metal Jacket
90.True Lies
98.The Sandlot
99.The Wizard of Oz
100.Big Trouble in Little China

For me Die Hard is one of the two greatest action films of all-time, with the original Terminator being the other.     Between the two Die Hard has the more universal appeal though.   It was the film that pretty much established the everyman action hero, and to this day no one plays that kind of role better than Bruce Willis.  Also has one of the most memorable villains of all-time in Hans Gruber, immaculately portrayed by Alan Rickman.

As far as Mt. Rushmore it hands down makes Bruce Willis's (Die Hard, Die Hard with a Vengeance, The Sixth Sense, and Pulp Fiction)  and Alan Rickman's as well.  (Die Hard, Robin Hood Prince of Thieves, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone and Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows) 

Also a lock for John McTiernan  (Die Hard, The Predator, Die Hard With a Vengeance and The Hunt for Red October)

Man this top 20 has been a real bummer for me, movies I like but don’t love, don’t like, or haven’t seen.

Crazy tomorrow starts the last official Top 10 of all time!

Dec 11, 2020 22:11:02 GMT UT said:

Crazy tomorrow starts the last official Top 10 of all time!

PW is at the end of an era. As far as I can remember since the move here has been these Countdowns.

Dec 11, 2020 22:22:08 GMT @ness said:

Dec 11, 2020 22:11:02 GMT UT said:

Crazy tomorrow starts the last official Top 10 of all time!

PW is at the end of an era. As far as I can remember since the move here has been these Countdowns.

So what you're saying is that this is the end for countdowns, except it's going to go on for another 7 years and retire at least 3 more times?

Dec 11, 2020 22:24:56 GMT RT said:

Dec 11, 2020 22:22:08 GMT @ness said:

PW is at the end of an era. As far as I can remember since the move here has been these Countdowns.

So what you're saying is that this is the end for countdowns, except it's going to go on for another 7 years and retire at least 3 more times?

Well, he did make that thread asking for future stuff.

It's a wrestling retirement we all know it.

Die Hard was my #9. It's a VHS era classic.

Dec 11, 2020 22:22:08 GMT @ness said:

Dec 11, 2020 22:11:02 GMT UT said:

Crazy tomorrow starts the last official Top 10 of all time!

PW is at the end of an era. As far as I can remember since the move here has been these Countdowns.

They started on the old forums , #3 (Stephen King) started at the old PW and we had to finish it here.

Must not've paid attention or participated on the old board because I have no memories of it.

Maybe I've blocked out the "main site" that much.

Updated list

100. City of God (Fernando Meirelles & Kátia Lund, 2002) #57
94. Singin' in the Rain (Stanley Donen & Gene Kelly, 1952) #64

90. Toy Story 3 (Lee Unkrich, 2010) #37
89. Rear Window (Alfred Hitchcock, 1954) #74
86. The Silence of the Lambs (Jonathan Demme, 1991) #46
83. Memento (Christopher Nolan, 2000) #63
82. Parasite (Bong Joon-ho, 2019) #128

75. Adaptation. (Spike Jonze, 2002) #106

67. Terminator 2: Judgment Day (James Cameron, 1991) #28
66. The Shining (Stanley Kubrick, 1980) #80
65. The Apartment (Billy Wilder, 1960) #111
63. Raging Bull (Martin Scorsese, 1980) #86

58. Alien (Ridley Scott, 1979) #33
57. The Big Lebowski (Ethan Coen & Joel Coen, 1998) #12
51. Unforgiven (Clint Eastwood, 1992) #76

47. Schindler's List (Steven Spielberg, 1993) #70
45. Taxi Driver (Martin Scorsese, 1976) #43

40. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (Peter Jackson, 2002) #47
38. Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015) #98
36. WALL·E (Andrew Stanton, 2008) #196
34. Vertigo (Alfred Hitchcock, 1958) #92
33. The Tree of Life (Terrence Malick, 2011) #191

30. Throne of Blood (Akira Kurosawa, 1957) #95
29. Casablanca (Michael Curtiz, 1942) #81
26. The Sting (George Roy Hill, 1973) #84
25. Chinatown (Roman Polanski, 1974) #101
21. Apocalypse Now (Francis Ford Coppola, 1979) #117

20. The Seventh Seal (Ingmar Bergman, 1957) #189
18. 12 Angry Men (Sidney Lumet, 1957) #17
16. The Night of the Hunter (Charles Laughton, 1955) #185
15. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (Sergio Leone, 1966) #32
14. Citizen Kane (Orson Welles, 1941) #91
13. Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960) #35
11. The Godfather Part II (Francis Ford Coppola, 1974) #13

8. Three Colours: Blue (Krzysztof Kieślowski, 1993) #103
6. There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2007) #82
4. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Stanley Kubrick, 1968) #161
3. The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972) #24

The Big Lebowski (57) is fantastic. It is as if the characters have found themselves in the wrong film. As others have mentioned, Bridges, Goodman and Buscemi are incredible, arguably never better. PSH is tremendous in his small part. The Road House bad guy as Jackie Treehorn! Endlessly quotable and rewatchable. I'd watch Walter scatter Donny's ashes all over The Dude every day.

Die Hard (174) did not make my list. It is great. I saw it again last weekend at an independent cinema here. It is pretty much perfect for what it is. It is always brought up, but the bare feet is such a great example of top scriptwriting. You have this little quirky exchange at the start. Fine enough for what it is. Then McClane provides another fun moment by accepting that the guy was right about the bare feet on carpet thing. But it ultimately leads to the broken glass and his bare feet being a disadvantage. Some fun moments early end up playing a role. While pretty much perfect for what it is, it doesn't affect me or entertain me on the level of my top films.

So many of you are out of your element. This dude does not abide. The Big Lebowski is not overrated on PW. It is underrated.

3. The Big Lebowski- One of only 3 movies under serious consideration for my top spot.

Unlike UT I was day one on The Big Lebowski. Thought it was brilliant at first watch and my opinion has not wavered during an admittedly unhealthy number of rewatches. The Big Lebowski is a strong contender for most rewatchable and most quotable movie of all time. Name a more iconic duo than Walter and The Dude. OK, maybe Wayne and Garth. But aside from that... 

I guess some people get hung up on the convoluted plot which kind of goes nowhere? If so, you're doing it all wrong. The admittedly awesome, albeit Rube Goldbergian plot isn't really the point. It's just the vehicle for following Walter and The Dude around as they interact with all these equally wild/insane/memorable characters. It's not just the Walter & Dude show either. Every single character and every single scene is memorable.

I'm not even going to bother with favorite scenes because there are approximately 119 minutes worth of them. So let's do characters real quick- Donnie, Bunny, Brandt, The Big Lebowski, The Nihilists, The Stranger, Maude, The Jesus~! Heck, even the random oddballs who pop up in this film get more out of their minute or two of screen time than most featured characters in full length films do- Brother Shamus Guy, cab driving Eagles fan, Karl Hungus, Jackie Treehorn, Knox Carrington, etc. etc.

It's just brilliant from start to finish. A true work of genius. And it actually gets even better on rewatches as you begin to pick up on things you missed earlier. 
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Forgot about Die Hard when I played the guessing game. Not surprising given that I've more or less forgotten the entire movie which I may or may not have watched once in full some 20+ years ago. 

The number of people who have never seen or sat down to entirely watch Die Hard is offensive.

Dec 11, 2020 22:22:08 GMT @ness said:

Dec 11, 2020 22:11:02 GMT UT said:

Crazy tomorrow starts the last official Top 10 of all time!

PW is at the end of an era. As far as I can remember since the move here has been these Countdowns.

Anyone else think HHH has sausage fingers?

Name a more iconic duo than Walter and The Dude.

-Roger Murtaugh and Martin Riggs
-Mike Lowery and Marcus Burnett
-Jack Caits and Reggie Hammond
- Thelma and Louise
-Bonnie and Clyde
-Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
-James T.Kirk and Mister Spock

I can keep going with this.

Dec 12, 2020 4:47:32 GMT @ness said:

Dec 11, 2020 22:22:08 GMT @ness said:

PW is at the end of an era. As far as I can remember since the move here has been these Countdowns.

Anyone else think HHH has sausage fingers?

It's all that tape cutting off the circulation.

Dec 12, 2020 5:51:12 GMT Shootist said:

Dec 12, 2020 4:47:32 GMT @ness said:

Anyone else think HHH has sausage fingers?

It's all that tape cutting off the circulation.

I always wondered if HHH's wrists were that weak he needed the structural support, or if he just thought it looked cool. Bet the dude used a whole roll per hand.