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Post by UT on Jun 28, 2021 19:09:33 GMT
Get on the WWPeacock Baker and go back again. For awesome stuff like this , Gillberg before Gillberg. Or this attempted murder.... Or these amazing Crush Vignettes (can't find the baseball one)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 19:40:12 GMT
Gotta say if they coulda choreographed the classic Taker situp with the sword it would've been something.
Basically we need an official PW Peacock account.
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Post by Lony on Jun 28, 2021 21:57:12 GMT
Not Superstars related, but since Gillberg is here... did they ever do a segment between him and Goldberg, when Goldberg was there?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 22:20:20 GMT
Not Superstars related, but since Gillberg is here... did they ever do a segment between him and Goldberg, when Goldberg was there? Rock did a Rock concert before Backlash (when he was gonna face Goldberg) and Gillberg was part of the segment. Honestly I'm surprised it even happened as Goldberg doesn't seem like a guy who can laugh about anything.
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Post by Lony on Jun 28, 2021 23:34:50 GMT
Not Superstars related, but since Gillberg is here... did they ever do a segment between him and Goldberg, when Goldberg was there? Rock did a Rock concert before Backlash (when he was gonna face Goldberg) and Gillberg was part of the segment. Honestly I'm surprised it even happened as Goldberg doesn't seem like a guy who can laugh about anything.
Nice. I might have to track that down on the WWE Network.
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Post by UT on Jun 28, 2021 23:50:03 GMT
Rock did a Rock concert before Backlash (when he was gonna face Goldberg) and Gillberg was part of the segment. Honestly I'm surprised it even happened as Goldberg doesn't seem like a guy who can laugh about anything.
Nice. I might have to track that down on the WWE Network. *Peacock
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Post by Shootist on Jun 29, 2021 0:47:45 GMT
For some reason this promo by Crush on the Doink feud stuck with me:
and who could forget this debut vignette?
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Post by UT on Jun 29, 2021 1:14:12 GMT
Yeah but the Radar vignettes are/were pretty good.
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Post by Lony on Jun 29, 2021 1:27:13 GMT
Nice. I might have to track that down on the WWE Network. *Peacock Peacock in the US, WWE Network everywhere else.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 1:28:08 GMT
America is peacocking to the rest of the world just like we do by REFUSING to adopt the metric system.
USA!
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Post by UT on Jun 29, 2021 1:35:27 GMT
Peacock in the US, WWE Network everywhere else. There is no where else!
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Post by Baker on Jun 29, 2021 1:50:12 GMT
Dudes! Spoilers! Gawd! Plus watching like Shawn Michaels win with a punch or IRS with a pretty lame clothesline is great. Whoops. Sorry about that. No more spoilers. Just let us know when you see something cool! Not a fan of you casually dismissing IRS' Write Off Clothesline though.
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Post by UT on Jun 29, 2021 1:55:50 GMT
Dudes! Spoilers! Gawd! Plus watching like Shawn Michaels win with a punch or IRS with a pretty lame clothesline is great. Whoops. Sorry about that. No more spoilers. Just let us know when you see something cool! Not a fan of you casually dismissing IRS' Write Off Clothesline though. I was just joking. Spoil away - it’s a 30 year old show and I know most of the beats. So just got into Warriors first reaction to the Shango curse. Classic stuff. Sidenote - Warrior and Brian Knobbs had a match before that and it shockingly wasn’t terrible. Good heel work and early beatdown of Warrior and he sold well enough and the crowd was electric. Was a fun time , though it’s weird seeing UW looking that small.
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Post by UT on Jun 29, 2021 2:50:01 GMT
Have they added anything else for Superstars? Last I looked they only had the end of 92 and the beginning of 93. I think there’s three seasons. I know I’m in May 92’ right now.
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Post by Ed on Jun 29, 2021 19:28:23 GMT
Dudes! Spoilers! Gawd! Plus, watching like Shawn Michaels win with a punch or IRS with a pretty lame clothesline is great. Whoops. Sorry about that. No more spoilers. Just let us know when you see something cool! Not a fan of you casually dismissing IRS' Write Off Clothesline though. Mike Rotunda sucked! the only time he was worth anything was The Varsity Club in the NWA.
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Post by Ed on Jun 29, 2021 19:46:17 GMT
Mike Rotunda sucked! the only time he was worth anything was The Varsity Club in the NWA. No way. IRS was legit. Loved him in that gimmick! I never thought much of him. I liked SOME parts of the IRS match with Razor at RR 1994 but, I was mostly bored watching him on offense.
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Post by UT on Jun 29, 2021 20:08:02 GMT
I didn’t know he had a name for that lame noodle he called a clothesline. Normally I appreciate Baker’s eclectic tastes but I can’t abide by this one.
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Post by UT on Jun 30, 2021 13:50:23 GMT
Nailz might be the worst big man baddie of all time. He doesn't even look scary - he looks like the guy at Goodyear who changes my tires. Not to say they can't be strong but there is another level you have to get to if you're going to be a 1992 big badass and Nailz whole aesthetic , especially his hairline was just a no go for me. He should have probably just shaved it from the start. Also he sounds like he ate three gallons of peanut butter before cutting a promo.
High Energy might be the worst tag team of all time. They cut some of the lamest promo's of all time. They should have been heels.
These jobbers still blow my mind. How did they even get into wrestling? Some of them should be embarrassed to wear singlets on TV and wrestle in matches.
Papa Shango is a ton of fun , silly but fun.
Big Bossman as much as I adored him growing up and admit he was over and important had to have been in some brutal shape. He was clearly blown up after his last to minute squash. Lordy.
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Post by UT on Jun 30, 2021 15:49:00 GMT
Is Crush the worst wrestler of all time? I’m thinking so.
Ring. Promos. Characters. He’s awful.
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Post by Ed on Jun 30, 2021 16:54:20 GMT
Nailz might be the worst big man baddie of all time. He doesn't even look scary - he looks like the guy at Goodyear who changes my tires. Not to say they can't be strong but there is another level you have to get to if you're going to be a 1992 big badass and Nailz whole aesthetic, especially his hairline was just a no-go for me. He should have probably just shaved it from the start. Also, he sounds like he ate three gallons of peanut butter before cutting a promo. High Energy might be the worst tag team of all time. They cut some of the most lime promos of all time. They should have been heels. These jobbers still blow my mind. How did they even get into wrestling? Some of them should be embarrassed to wear singlets on TV and wrestle in matches. Papa Shango is a ton of fun, silly but fun. Big Bossman as much as I adored him growing up and admit he was over and important had to have been in some brutal shape. He was clearly blown up after his last to minute squash. Lordy. Do you know what led to Nailz being fired? it's quite the story.
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Post by UT on Jun 30, 2021 17:03:19 GMT
Nailz might be the worst big man baddie of all time. He doesn't even look scary - he looks like the guy at Goodyear who changes my tires. Not to say they can't be strong but there is another level you have to get to if you're going to be a 1992 big badass and Nailz whole aesthetic, especially his hairline was just a no-go for me. He should have probably just shaved it from the start. Also, he sounds like he ate three gallons of peanut butter before cutting a promo. High Energy might be the worst tag team of all time. They cut some of the most lime promos of all time. They should have been heels. These jobbers still blow my mind. How did they even get into wrestling? Some of them should be embarrassed to wear singlets on TV and wrestle in matches. Papa Shango is a ton of fun, silly but fun. Big Bossman as much as I adored him growing up and admit he was over and important had to have been in some brutal shape. He was clearly blown up after his last to minute squash. Lordy. Do you know what led to Nailz being fired? it's quite the story. Yeah I know he allegedly assaulted McMahon over money, also that he accused Vince of sexually assaulting him.
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Post by UT on Jun 30, 2021 17:04:11 GMT
I need to find some WCW stuff from around this time. What was their Superstars esque show called? I can’t remember though I do know I watched it occasionally.
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Post by Big Pete on Jun 30, 2021 17:14:43 GMT
I need to find some WCW stuff from around this time. What was their Superstars esque show called? I can’t remember though I do know I watched it occasionally. The greatest 90s name of all - Power Hour.
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Post by Ed on Jun 30, 2021 17:15:26 GMT
I need to find some WCW stuff from around this time. What was their Superstars -esque show called? I can’t remember, though I do know I watched it occasionally. The show you're thinking of is WCW Saturday night or, WCW Worldwide most likely.
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Post by UT on Jun 30, 2021 17:31:13 GMT
Nailz. Pretty good take. He wasn’t of a bad stature. He was believable in size for certain. But that combover made him look silly. Nothing made him look more mentally challenged than staring at the camera for 45 seconds hitting his open hand with that night stick. Then he’d open his mouth and make me absolutely BEG for a manager. He came around during the era of Giant Gonzales and he made me absolutely appreciate GG. That bright Orange DOC jumpsuit just looked stupid also. What I would have found more imposing is if he was an escaped convict. And every town they went to, local police would come try to capture him and he’d just beat them up. All while going after Boss Man who wrongfully arrested him. (I always thought of BBM as a cop but I guess he was always a security guard for the DoC in Georgia?) which.. the name BBM works better of you’re a DoC guy and not a Highway patrolman I suppose. In case anyone didn’t know BBM is an all time fave of mine. I loved him in every incarnation of that gimmick but also universally despised him as Big Bubba. You couldn’t be more off on Crush. He was underwhelming in every thing but his size. But how could you call him the worst? Papa Shango was, just as you described him. What a huge letdown. He could have been the #2 heel in a way that he didn’t need the title. Which is where I thought the Ultimate Warrior story was going. The possibilities were endless. Hogan, Warrior, Savage, Undertaker.. all could have had amazing. I’d put his run in top 10 most disappointing for WWF. High Energy weren’t the worst tag team in history. I will agree that their promos were terrible though. Where they shined was always going to be in the ring. I saw a 15 second promo from them in the middle of a match once and that was and should have been their bread and butter. It got the gimmick too. Fast. Energetic. No real direction. I think you’re on to something with the heel turn though. Imagine them having that energy and being delusional that the fans loved them. They do heel tactics, but pretend to be good. It could have even been a slow turn. After months of always losing they accidentally “cheat” to win but then they decide to just stick with it since it worked. Plus.. HEEL OWEN!!! Imagine if (off camera) they killed Frankie and made a Blue Blazer like cape out of his feathers. They don’t ever mention it. They just wear it. Maybe an off hand comment from Gorilla “those feathers look familiar” and the Brain a week later “hey where’s that stupid bird anyways?” Crush being the worst obviously needs context - in theory I could be the worst wrestler ever because I've never actually tried it. For someone who they tried to give a push multiple times - tried a slew of gimmicks and at least at this time was treated as a pretty big deal despite never really doing anything - he might be the worst ever. Demolition Crush sucked. Crush sucked in a junkyard or with baseball then came the worst of the bunch with Kona Crush where he attempted that brutal and borderline offensive accent. All awful. And obviously he was nothing in the ring as well. High Energy is weird , they could obviously work in the ring but everything else about that was cringe. Their promo's where KBW would sing at the end in an annoying as voice and generally just the content of the promo's. It's like when New Day debuted and they were so over the top good they became heels - or whatever direction that worked. High Energy should have been that because they were awful as faces , even for that era.
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Post by UT on Jun 30, 2021 17:32:19 GMT
I need to find some WCW stuff from around this time. What was their Superstars esque show called? I can’t remember though I do know I watched it occasionally. WCW Saturday Night. But you won’t find the camp stuff you’re seeing on Superstars. It was like 90% wrestling during this time I'm pretty sure. Well that's boring.
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Post by Ed on Jun 30, 2021 17:50:58 GMT
I think the Crush/Randy Savage feud was a lot of fun UT, I'm not saying Crush is an amazing superstar by any means, but if you think Crush is garbage, watching this feud might soften your stance to a degree.
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Post by UT on Jun 30, 2021 17:59:20 GMT
I think the Crush/Randy Savage feud was a lot of fun UT, I'm not saying Crush is an amazing superstar by any means, but if you think Crush is garbage, watching this feud might soften your stance to a degree. I’ve seen the blowoff match at WMX and it was pretty bad.
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Post by UT on Jun 30, 2021 18:04:00 GMT
WWECock don’t have Power Hour or Worldwide so guess I’ll check out some WCW Saturday Night.
Hope there isn’t too much wrasslin.
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Post by UT on Jun 30, 2021 18:11:25 GMT
Pillman vs Brad Armstrong for the Light Heavyweight title. Armstrong has to go at least 240. :lol:
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