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Post by mikec on Feb 24, 2022 19:03:59 GMT
Catching a few liberals on my social media channels hoping someone will help Ukraine that were mere months back criticizing people as members of the industrial war complex for not liking how we left Afghanistan. At least be intellectually consistent people.
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Post by iron maiden on Feb 24, 2022 19:09:00 GMT
I don't know how many of you remember Bahgdad, Bosnia, Kosovo, etc. It all started the same way: bombing and civilian lives lost. Media starts spin doctoring to suit their narrative. UN/NATO sends Peacekeepers into the area. I could be wrong, but I guess we'll see.
I don't know how 'self sufficient' the Russian military is. What I am hearing is completely contrary to what I've heard from my ex, his co-workers and other military friends over the years in which they often fed and gave supplies to the Russian soldiers during deployments-when they were allies of course. In return they got good Russian vodka. One has to wonder what has changed since then. I assume it has much to do with leadership.
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Post by c on Feb 24, 2022 19:10:03 GMT
I noticed this too. People who were anti-war for the War of Terror now wanting the US to get involved. Personally, I oppose military action. If we cannot afford to implement social policies at home, we cannot afford to engage in war. GOP been screaming the US needs to make cuts to spending, this should be one of those cuts.
I am hearing much of the Russian war machine is cold war stuff. Pretty low grade tech they just had left over.
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Post by KING KID on Feb 24, 2022 19:14:09 GMT
c 'People' is the incorrect way to talk of them. mikec had it right when he said 'dumb liberals'.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2022 19:14:10 GMT
I don’t think NATO troops will be sent in anytime soon. More likely is NATO support of resources to help the already strong Ukraine military. Just make it as difficult as horrible as possible for the Russians until they back down. This is a positive scenario obviously, there are more frightening outcomes possible.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2022 19:16:42 GMT
I am hearing much of the Russian war machine is cold war stuff. Pretty low grade tech they just had left over. Their biggest weapons have always been their tanks, their numbers and their willingness to self-sacrifice. It’s probably to do with the geography of the country. The Russians are effective in wartime but slow, too slow for this to be effective in my view.
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Post by mikec on Feb 24, 2022 19:21:55 GMT
c 'People' is the incorrect way to talk of them. mikec had it right when he said 'dumb liberals'. Might need to check the tape, didn’t call anyone dumb. Except you generally in a few threads around this place.
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Post by mikec on Feb 24, 2022 19:24:33 GMT
Oh dumb Conservatives (note the tape again) coming out and suggesting that this would somehow be different with President Trump (or as the dumb former president said yesterday this whole thing was because of a rigged election) are morons.
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Post by KING KID on Feb 24, 2022 19:26:57 GMT
Oh dumb Conservatives (note the tape again) coming out and suggesting that this would somehow be different with President Trump (or as the dumb former president said yesterday this whole thing was because of a rigged election) are morons. I mean; CLEARLY there was no fucking war for 4 years while Trump was in office. Only you dumb liberals (dually noted~!) screaming 'RUSSIAN KOLLUSSSSSSSSHIN~!' for 4 years and being wrong, like usual.
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Post by mikec on Feb 24, 2022 19:29:27 GMT
Oh dumb Conservatives (note the tape again) coming out and suggesting that this would somehow be different with President Trump (or as the dumb former president said yesterday this whole thing was because of a rigged election) are morons. I mean; CLEARLY there was no fucking war for 4 years while Trump was in office. Only you dumb liberals (dually noted~!) screaming 'RUSSIAN KOLLUSSSSSSSSHIN~!' for 4 years and being wrong, like usual. I mean there was a war the entire four years Trump was president.
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Post by Jake on Feb 24, 2022 19:31:59 GMT
I don't particularly hold out much hope for the UK government to do much, if anything.
Too many members of our serving cabinet, including the PM, have ties with Russian donors, so....hmm....
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Post by KING KID on Feb 24, 2022 19:36:53 GMT
I mean; CLEARLY there was no fucking war for 4 years while Trump was in office. Only you dumb liberals (dually noted~!) screaming 'RUSSIAN KOLLUSSSSSSSSHIN~!' for 4 years and being wrong, like usual. I mean there was a war the entire four years Trump was president. Oh lol you mean the one that was safe until Biden got involved?
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Post by NATH45 on Feb 24, 2022 20:14:30 GMT
Russian forces have captured the infamous Chernobyl power plant, with forces gathering in the old exclusion zone.
Why?
It is located along the fastest route between Russia and Kyiv.
It is understood Russia wants control of the plant in order to send the message to NATO not to intervene.
My reading into the NATO conference echo the thoughts of the news media channel I was watching - NATO honour the right for Ukraine to defend itself, and will send forces to its Eastern allies. Ukraine isn't part of NATO. This was repeated several times, suggesting they'll build a military wall around Ukraine to ensure it doesn't spill over to other countries and wait and see how effective Ukraine fights back, or how evil Russia can get before stepping in.
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Post by Da Gr8t I Is on Feb 24, 2022 20:14:34 GMT
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Post by Jake on Feb 24, 2022 20:28:51 GMT
This should be fun...
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Post by KING KID on Feb 24, 2022 21:21:00 GMT
Gulp.
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Post by RT on Feb 24, 2022 21:24:13 GMT
I mean there was a war the entire four years Trump was president. Oh lol you mean the one that was safe until Biden got involved? The withdrawal from Afghanistan was initiated by Trump. He signed the Doha Agreement with the Taliban against the wishes of the Afghan government. He believed the Taliban would hold up their end of not taking control of US occupied areas if they left. All Biden did was honour the agreement that the President before him signed.
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Post by KING KID on Feb 24, 2022 21:24:51 GMT
Oh lol you mean the one that was safe until Biden got involved? The withdrawal from Afghanistan was initiated by Trump. He signed the Doha Agreement with the Taliban against the wishes of the Afghan government. He believed the Taliban would hold up their end of not taking control of US occupied areas if they left. All Biden did was honour the agreement that the President before him signed. That's incorrect.
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Post by RT on Feb 24, 2022 21:26:40 GMT
The withdrawal from Afghanistan was initiated by Trump. He signed the Doha Agreement with the Taliban against the wishes of the Afghan government. He believed the Taliban would hold up their end of not taking control of US occupied areas if they left. All Biden did was honour the agreement that the President before him signed. That's incorrect. Tell me what actually happened then. I’ll get the popcorn ready.
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Post by KING KID on Feb 24, 2022 21:31:47 GMT
Tell me what actually happened then. I’ll get the popcorn ready. Trump had a plan. He got the election stolen from him. Joe Biden became President. Joe Biden fucked it all up. All the meanwhile; Canada was just Canada. Useless.
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Post by RT on Feb 24, 2022 21:48:39 GMT
Tell me what actually happened then. I’ll get the popcorn ready. Trump had a plan. He got the election stolen from him. Joe Biden became President. Joe Biden fucked it all up. All the meanwhile; Canada was just Canada. Useless. What the hell is this post
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Post by iron maiden on Feb 24, 2022 21:51:39 GMT
He's got nothing cause he knows you are right.
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Post by NATH45 on Feb 24, 2022 21:54:32 GMT
Tell me what actually happened then. I’ll get the popcorn ready. Trump had a plan. He got the election stolen from him. Joe Biden became President. Joe Biden fucked it all up. All the meanwhile; Canada was just Canada. Useless. February 2020, Trump and the Taliban, without participation by the Afghan government, signed the Doha Agreement, which provided for the withdrawal of all foreign forces from Afghanistan in return for a Taliban pledge to prevent al-Qaeda from operating in areas under Taliban control, and future talks between the Taliban and the Afghan government for a permanent ceasefire. The Taliban began a final offensive on 1 May and, on 8 July, Biden specified a new completion date of 31 August. There were about 650 US troops in Afghanistan in early August 2021, tasked with protecting Hamid Karzai International Airport and the US embassy in Kabul. In short, things happens, you can't predict war. And besides, Trump has done more damage to his home country, than Biden ever could to another.
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Post by KING KID on Feb 24, 2022 21:54:49 GMT
I literally just answered the question. What the hell you Canadians talking about?
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Post by KING KID on Feb 24, 2022 21:55:35 GMT
Trump had a plan. He got the election stolen from him. Joe Biden became President. Joe Biden fucked it all up. All the meanwhile; Canada was just Canada. Useless. February 2020, Trump and the Taliban, without participation by the Afghan government, signed the Doha Agreement, which provided for the withdrawal of all foreign forces from Afghanistan in return for a Taliban pledge to prevent al-Qaeda from operating in areas under Taliban control, and future talks between the Taliban and the Afghan government for a permanent ceasefire. The Taliban began a final offensive on 1 May and, on 8 July, Biden specified a new completion date of 31 August. There were about 650 US troops in Afghanistan in early August 2021, tasked with protecting Hamid Karzai International Airport and the US embassy in Kabul. In short, things happens, you can't predict war. And besides, Trump has done more damage to his home country, than Biden ever could to another. LMAO. What the hell are you talking about? What damage did Trump do?
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Post by NATH45 on Feb 24, 2022 21:57:03 GMT
February 2020, Trump and the Taliban, without participation by the Afghan government, signed the Doha Agreement, which provided for the withdrawal of all foreign forces from Afghanistan in return for a Taliban pledge to prevent al-Qaeda from operating in areas under Taliban control, and future talks between the Taliban and the Afghan government for a permanent ceasefire. The Taliban began a final offensive on 1 May and, on 8 July, Biden specified a new completion date of 31 August. There were about 650 US troops in Afghanistan in early August 2021, tasked with protecting Hamid Karzai International Airport and the US embassy in Kabul. In short, things happens, you can't predict war. And besides, Trump has done more damage to his home country, than Biden ever could to another. LMAO. What the hell are you talking about? What damage did Trump do? Maybe sit this one out kid.
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Post by KING KID on Feb 24, 2022 21:57:47 GMT
LMAO. What the hell are you talking about? What damage did Trump do? Maybe sit this one out kid. No. I literally want to know what damage he did, besides hurting liberals feelings.
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Post by KING KID on Feb 24, 2022 21:58:52 GMT
You guys will literally be sheep for the rest of your lives. Defending the Biden Administration by saying 'eh, ya cant predict wars!'
Of course you can. Joe Biden is a weak leader and that's why Putin finally went through with his plan.
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Post by NATH45 on Feb 24, 2022 22:01:46 GMT
Maybe sit this one out kid. No. I literally want to know what damage he did, besides hurting liberals feelings. If you'd like to start a new thread, go for it. You can title it 'Pardoning War Criminals and 101 others things Trump did.. '
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Post by NATH45 on Feb 24, 2022 22:02:38 GMT
You guys will literally be sheep for the rest of your lives. Defending the Biden Administration by saying 'eh, ya cant predict wars!' Of course you can. Joe Biden is a weak leader and that's why Putin finally went through with his plan. A weak leader, who beat Trump.
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