Ranting about the Bucks still too I bet.

Does Punk hate HHH that much? I feel like this is something that the IWC runs with based on some worked shoot stuff that went on years ago. Has Punk ever criticised HHH publicly?

Yes. Punk believes that HHH personally wanted to bury Punk and was the reason he lost the title, then got dropped out of the main event scene. When Punk vs HHH was booked, Punk threw a fit, refused to do the match, then left the company. In interviews after he left he bitched about WWE wanting him to face HHH and how he had no interest in doing that.  Likely Punk would have been in the role DB was in that WM and won the title again if he showed up.  Instead DB got the title.

It is very interesting how his comments on HHH after he was fired, mirrored what he said about the Elite in AEW. Always someone out there trying to sabotage Punk.

So Sarray turned WWE down but evidently, Giulia is a lock for WWE! This is MASSIVE for the women’s division.

Nov 6, 2023 17:16:15 GMT surrender said:

So Sarray turned WWE down but evidently, Giulia is a lock for WWE! This is MASSIVE for the women’s division.

is she any good, just saw this pop on my feed. Wasn't impressed with SARRAY too much. 

Nov 6, 2023 17:39:31 GMT Blindy said:

Nov 6, 2023 17:16:15 GMT surrender said:

So Sarray turned WWE down but evidently, Giulia is a lock for WWE! This is MASSIVE for the women’s division.

is she any good, just saw this pop on my feed. Wasn't impressed with SARRAY too much. 

One of the best in the world in the way that Kairi and Iyo were a couple of the best in the world before they were with WWE.

Sarray was fine and she’s doing great work now but she was a bit too disconnected in NXT.

Reports now that Sarray, who signed with Sukeban this morning, was not the person WWE was trying to get. They were trying to get Giulia instead.

Seems WWE is taking notice of Stardom again and wants more.  Cannot blame them, Io and Kairi worked out very, very well.

Nov 6, 2023 18:06:10 GMT surrender said:

Nov 6, 2023 17:39:31 GMT Blindy said:

is she any good, just saw this pop on my feed. Wasn't impressed with SARRAY too much. 

One of the best in the world in the way that Kairi and Iyo were a couple of the best in the world before they were with WWE.

Sarray was fine and she’s doing great work now but she was a bit too disconnected in NXT.

Damn that would be a huge get for what is already a talented NXT women's division. She looks like Christina Aguilera in the 'dirrty' video from outfit to the hair. :lol: 

Also wonder if Kairi signing back, came with suggestions of who to bring with her. Hope Watanabe, Iwatani and Starlight Kid get looks.

I can just see this girl getting her nose blown up by the Joshi Killer, Nia Jax within a year.

Would be smart to keep her in NXT and far away from Jax.

Doubt she will be there long, but also do not expect her to come alone. If WWE is looking at Stardom, any of the girls can be stars in the US, and will need only really TV training to launch.

Also find it interesting that the Joshi drama did bleed over to the US, with TJPW girls not getting looks at all, because they started as mostly idols, and are considered not as talented as the dojo trained girls.

This is a good edit for a starting point of Giulia’s wrestling

x.com/puroresuflow/status/1721583153490337857?s=46&t=w4dUqKK48EYsFGKQaxLRMg

She just OOZES star power

x.com/prowfinesse/status/1721579943878877329?s=46&t=w4dUqKK48EYsFGKQaxLRMg

Her brainbuster is disgusting looking.  One of like a dozen moves she does now that will not come to WWE.

I hope the knee is her finisher.  Can do it to anyone, and not as dangerous as her other moves.  Bianca can still be around for a submission finisher.  The glorious moves not sure if the WWE girls can take.  She is strong as fuck holding up Willow for stuff when she won the belt.

That said, would love to see her package powerbomb appear.

Should note that if she signs, it will likely be after Wrestle Kingdom that she starts. Almost certainly dropping the belt there.

Giulia is under contract until March and can’t visit the PC without Bushiroad’s permission. So basically all the reports this morning were wrong. Again.

If she pops up in the PC before then that means she got permission to go. At that point we can probably assume WWE is the frontrunner to sign her when she becomes a free agent.

Mercedes Mone getting hurt as badly as she did really sucks. She is missing out on an incredible feud if Giulia ends up at WWE in a few months.

Very likely she has permission and Kairi is continuing to work as a go between. WWE is showing that may be open to one off appearances in Japan so working with them here they could get Kairi and Iyo back for a one off in the future.

Giulia is awesome to watch in the ring.

Wonder just how fast they plan to hot shot her. I assume the goal is two Asian girl teams feuding to try to do joshi in WWE, for either this WM or next year.

Depending on how bad they want this too, could buy her out or make a deal to get her early. Iyo for a weekend may be all they would need to shave months off her contract.  Not sure Stardom would want Asuka as real bad blood with the old crowd there.  But Iyo, possibly with the belt even, now that is something that would get them a ton of goodwill.  And it seems like HHH is trying to get good relations with Japan.  

Nov 7, 2023 2:00:18 GMT c said:

Wonder just how fast they plan to hot shot her. I assume the goal is two Asian girl teams feuding to try to do joshi in WWE, for either this WM or next year.

Depending on how bad they want this too, could buy her out or make a deal to get her early. Iyo for a weekend may be all they would need to shave months off her contract.  Not sure Stardom would want Asuka as real bad blood with the old crowd there.  But Iyo, possibly with the belt even, now that is something that would get them a ton of goodwill.  And it seems like HHH is trying to get good relations with Japan.  

HHH has shown in the past he is willing to do business with Japan as he lent Nakamura over for a match vs Muta recently. It's smart business honestly for both parties. These signings also help bring (some) eyeballs over to give Stardom etc. Stateside. Not many granted but still. 

Wrestling should have a system similar to what baseball has where Japanese pitchers/hitters get posted up and for a fee, can be purchased by the highest bidder where only now, these players have the right to go where they want(Superstar Shohei Ohtani chose to stay West Coast by signing with the Angels over tons of teams going after him). Of course there's no players union in wrestling so it can't be this exactly nor are there going to be many places competing with WWE & AEW like in baseball but bare minimum, the Japanese companies can get some compensation from the signing team to let the talent go out of their deal early. 

Nov 5, 2023 19:53:28 GMT Todd said:

Does Punk hate HHH that much? I feel like this is something that the IWC runs with based on some worked shoot stuff that went on years ago. Has Punk ever criticised HHH publicly?

Late to the party but HHH was a subject on that infamous episode of the Art of Wrestling.

I'll timestamp the clip for you.

Around the 24:00 Punk also goes into detail about the WWE movie that he brings up in this clip.

If you listen to it, you get the impression that they could easily let bygones be bygones if they can get on the same page professionally. A lot of Punk's issues with HHH seemed to be based around business, being promised one thing, only for plans to change and Hunter not having the courtesy to inform Punk.

Maybe things wouldn't work out, but I get the impression that Hunter would be willing to give it a shot. Keep the momentum going, show Ari that he can work with different personalities and possibly bridge that gap between MMA and WWE and I don't think the company is going to be as demanding on Punk.

There's plenty of matches you could do as well - Punk vs. Cody, Punk vs. Rollins, Punk vs. Owens are all matches everyone can sink their teeth into.

The issues now will be how Punk went out in AEW. Pre-AEW, maybe Punk could have done business with WWE. Post-AEW I am not so sure. WWE I doubt wants to risk a legal fight if Punk gets unhappy, and the best way to avoid that is just not to hire him. The sheer amount of people Punk had problems with in AEW should send huge red flags to any company looking to hire him. By the end it was dozens of people.

I'd take the risk just to piss off TK. And then fuck with him... [sinister laugh]

After a return at Survivor Series. And his obvious RAW return opposite Cody and his " so, what do you want to talk about? " shtick. I'd put NXT up against Dynamite and advertise and have Punk close the show and tease a match in NXT, then fast track a docu-interview with Punk, with special quests, Paul Heyman, Hunter, etc and drop it on YouTube opposite Rampage, and ensure every 30 minutes of this 2 hour program there's a massive revelation to make sure it's the only thing in the news cycle. A special edition of The Bump at 8pm Saturday opposite Collision with Punk to close out a week of shock and awe - a ratings blitzkrieg.

Almost certainly Punk is under a NDA and does that Tony will sue his ass personally.

Appearing on a television show?

Sorry, what...

TK will sue Punk for appearing on a television show?

NDA are common in most US companies for discussions of trade secrets, AKA, backstage shit.  

This the justification for most talking shit lawsuits.

The dirty laundry was aired at Brawl Out. Using Punk to stack WWE programming against AEW's as a FU, they can't do shit about that.

They could use Punk again them for ratings, but like, why would they care? Punk did not draw for them in the end.

Punk talks about the backstage fights publically he almost certainly triggers an NDA though.  WWE would benefit, but Punk def would not.

Reports of when the NDA was signed about this specific issue.

411mania.com/wrestling/more-on-legal-situation-with-cm-punk-and-aew-ndas-signed/

Well, despite people here claiming Drew is totally happy in WWE, reports are he is planning to let his contract expire with WWE to spend more time in Scotland. There are places he can work though while spending most of his time in Scotland.  Should he opt not to do WWE really hope NJPW takes him.  AEW he may not fit in with, but NJPW he would instantly mix up.

That dastardly CM Punk did it! They're firing people to make up for his exorbitant salary!



According to Fightful Select, NXT stars Alexis Lete, Alivia Ash and Giovanna Eburneo have been released from WWE.