Feb 5, 2024 21:43:53 GMT c said:

TKO stock unaffected by this news. Investors seem to give no shits either way.

If I was a TKO investor:

I do like that this has properly divided PW. Makes for fun discussion. I think it helps that PW is less smarky than Twitter or Reddit, so the ratio of Rock fans to Cody fans is more balanced. Even if the Rock fans are all still wrong.

Going to a Royal Rumble is still on my bucket list. I’d rather go to that then a Wrestlemania as crazy as that sounds.

Feb 5, 2024 21:46:54 GMT Todd said:

I do like that this has properly divided PW. Makes for fun discussion. I think it helps that PW is less smarky than Twitter or Reddit, so the ratio of Rock fans to Cody fans is more balanced. Even if the Rock fans are all still wrong.

Crazy thing is I don’t even consider myself a Rock fan. I’m an old school wrestling fan and watching Rock vs Roman at Wrestlemania is what Wrestlemania is all about.

Nobody is going to give a fuck in 10 years or at Roman’s HOF night that we got Cody/Roman 2 at WM. People will remember Rock/Roman. 

There’s definitely an old school/new school divide in terms of which side of the fence people are falling on.

I don’t think there’s any chance Rock/Roman won’t be memorable, to be quite honest. The question is will it be fame or infamy.

Feb 5, 2024 21:48:24 GMT KING KID said:

Going to a Royal Rumble is still on my bucket list. I’d rather go to that then a Wrestlemania as crazy as that sounds.

Festivus for the Restivus.

Feb 5, 2024 21:46:54 GMT Todd said:

I do like that this has properly divided PW. Makes for fun discussion. I think it helps that PW is less smarky than Twitter or Reddit, so the ratio of Rock fans to Cody fans is more balanced. Even if the Rock fans are all still wrong.

Do you think Rock/Roman should headline night one? And Cody night two?

Feb 5, 2024 21:52:54 GMT Todd said:

There’s definitely an old school/new school divide in terms of which side of the fence people are falling on.

I don’t think there’s any chance Rock/Roman won’t be memorable, to be quite honest. The question is will it be fame or infamy.

It’s going to be infamy. That’s been decided.

Feb 5, 2024 21:56:30 GMT UT said:

Feb 5, 2024 21:46:54 GMT Todd said:

I do like that this has properly divided PW. Makes for fun discussion. I think it helps that PW is less smarky than Twitter or Reddit, so the ratio of Rock fans to Cody fans is more balanced. Even if the Rock fans are all still wrong.

Do you think Rock/Roman should headline night one? And Cody night two?

No, if I was forced to have the Rock/Roman match I would showcase it last on Sunday. At least carry the casual interest through to the end of the second night.

I don’t even hate the idea of the match. I like the idea. Just not this year.

The fact it hasn’t impacted the price isn’t a good point for Rock supporters, it proves Cody fans right: Rock isn’t moving the needle in finances and he’s not going to help business. That talking point should be officially dead (even though is was silly to begin with given the earlier point WWE revenue is almost entirely fixed now).

Feb 5, 2024 21:58:24 GMT Todd said:

Feb 5, 2024 21:56:30 GMT UT said:

Do you think Rock/Roman should headline night one? And Cody night two?

No…

It doesn’t matter what you think!

Sunuvabitch

Feb 5, 2024 21:59:58 GMT KJ said:

The fact it hasn’t impacted the price isn’t a good point for Rock supporters, it proves Cody fans right: Rock isn’t moving the needle in finances and he’s not going to help business. That talking point should be officially dead (even though is was silly to begin with given the earlier point WWE revenue is almost entirely fixed now).

It should have been dead from the start. Rooting for or against matches because of how much money it’s going to make already rich people is weird.

Feb 5, 2024 21:59:58 GMT KJ said:

The fact it hasn’t impacted the price isn’t a good point for Rock supporters, it proves Cody fans right: Rock isn’t moving the needle in finances and he’s not going to help business. That talking point should be officially dead (even though is was silly to begin with given the earlier point WWE revenue is almost entirely fixed now).

Where did you come from? We're talking about the Jets headlining Mania and Wish Doll Damián Priest here. Get with the program!

Feb 5, 2024 22:09:10 GMT iron maiden said:

Feb 5, 2024 21:59:58 GMT KJ said:

The fact it hasn’t impacted the price isn’t a good point for Rock supporters, it proves Cody fans right: Rock isn’t moving the needle in finances and he’s not going to help business. That talking point should be officially dead (even though is was silly to begin with given the earlier point WWE revenue is almost entirely fixed now).

Where did you come from? We're talking about the Jets headlining Mania and Wish Doll Damián Priest here. Get with the program!

All better options than Dwayne.

Feb 5, 2024 21:43:58 GMT iron maiden said:

There are 2 big reasons I stopped going to WM (I can't speak for Rogue ) :

1) I wanted to see and do other things with the $3000-5000 I spent every Mania
2) I hated the other fans. Legit, straight up hated them after 5 Manias. Hated signs, but mostly hated their perceived sense of entitlement they felt they had over the wrestlers, the other fans and the show.

Not once was it because I cared about what match I would see because we booked our travel packages around SummerSlam. Sure, I had my favorites and I always hoped, but honestly you are left with whatever hand you are dealt and overall I had the times of my life.

Rogue and I still speak about doing a Rumble.

I stopped going to bigger shows because of the assholes.  I do mostly small local shows where that shit will get you tossed.  

Feb 5, 2024 22:08:44 GMT UT said:

Feb 5, 2024 21:59:58 GMT KJ said:

The fact it hasn’t impacted the price isn’t a good point for Rock supporters, it proves Cody fans right: Rock isn’t moving the needle in finances and he’s not going to help business. That talking point should be officially dead (even though is was silly to begin with given the earlier point WWE revenue is almost entirely fixed now).

It should have been dead from the start. Rooting for or against matches because of how much money it’s going to make already rich people is weird.

One million percent.

The WWE is leaning into this too hard for me to think the story is over. I just struggle to believe a Hunter-led creative org is this tone-deaf and obtuse.

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If we get Hollywood Rock out of this and that motherfucker shows up on Raw with his guitar, I’ll take it all back.

Feb 5, 2024 22:12:42 GMT KJ said:

Feb 5, 2024 22:09:10 GMT iron maiden said:

Where did you come from? We're talking about the Jets headlining Mania and Wish Doll Damián Priest here. Get with the program!

All better options than Dwayne.

In your opinion, you mean. 

Feb 5, 2024 22:12:43 GMT c said:

Feb 5, 2024 21:43:58 GMT iron maiden said:

There are 2 big reasons I stopped going to WM (I can't speak for Rogue ) :

1) I wanted to see and do other things with the $3000-5000 I spent every Mania
2) I hated the other fans. Legit, straight up hated them after 5 Manias. Hated signs, but mostly hated their perceived sense of entitlement they felt they had over the wrestlers, the other fans and the show.

Not once was it because I cared about what match I would see because we booked our travel packages around SummerSlam. Sure, I had my favorites and I always hoped, but honestly you are left with whatever hand you are dealt and overall I had the times of my life.

Rogue and I still speak about doing a Rumble.

I stopped going to bigger shows because of the assholes.  I do mostly small local shows where that shit will get you tossed.  

The only thing I dislike at smaller local shows is having one of the dudes next to me mansplain wrestling to me. I mean, it's RT, so I try to be nice...

Meltzer thinks HHH is martyring Cody on purpose, but didn’t bank on Rock getting booed. I don’t understand that - it’s symbiotic. Just like it was for Dave Batista when he got the spot over Bryan. I think there’s a chance that we’re not understanding the full picture here one way or another.

Feb 5, 2024 21:59:58 GMT KJ said:

The fact it hasn’t impacted the price isn’t a good point for Rock supporters, it proves Cody fans right: Rock isn’t moving the needle in finances and he’s not going to help business. That talking point should be officially dead (even though is was silly to begin with given the earlier point WWE revenue is almost entirely fixed now).

If you believe WM will be bigger you would hold your stocks to sell after the earnings from it are made public.  If you believe it not be as strong without Cody you would sell now before others realize this too.

Not sure how revenue is a moot point either, the sponsorships were signed with the Rock being there.  Millions of dollars coming in there from the Rock.  When he resigned he gave them back merch rights, which they expect to make another few million at least.  

Sure Cody sells a lot of shirts, but all this cash is on top of what Cody would have made headlining.  They got all the cash they can out of Cody, the Rock cash is on top of whatever he could have made.

Again feels like everyone is hating on the Rock because WWE did not just book Cody to lose the Rumble.  Decision comes above the Rock here even for who will headline, and fans should get used to this.  WWE no longer has full control of the company and when needed stories will change whether they like it or not as that is what happens when you sell majority rights to someone else.

Feb 5, 2024 22:22:55 GMT c said:

Feb 5, 2024 21:59:58 GMT KJ said:

The fact it hasn’t impacted the price isn’t a good point for Rock supporters, it proves Cody fans right: Rock isn’t moving the needle in finances and he’s not going to help business. That talking point should be officially dead (even though is was silly to begin with given the earlier point WWE revenue is almost entirely fixed now).

If you believe WM will be bigger you would hold your stocks to sell after the earnings from it are made public.  If you believe it not be as strong without Cody you would sell now before others realize this too.

Not sure how revenue is a moot point either, the sponsorships were signed with the Rock being there.  Millions of dollars coming in there from the Rock.  When he resigned he gave them back merch rights, which they expect to make another few million at least.  

Sure Cody sells a lot of shirts, but all this cash is on top of what Cody would have made headlining.  They got all the cash they can out of Cody, the Rock cash is on top of whatever he could have made.

Again feels like everyone is hating on the Rock because WWE did not just book Cody to lose the Rumble.  Decision comes above the Rock here even for who will headline, and fans should get used to this.  WWE no longer has full control of the company and when needed stories will change whether they like it or not as that is what happens when you sell majority rights to someone else.

You’re fucking crazy. People don’t play that long of a game with stock price, especially when there’s a scandal ongoing and an earnings report this month. Get real.

Feb 5, 2024 22:20:37 GMT Todd said:

Meltzer thinks HHH is martyring Cody on purpose, but didn’t bank on Rock getting booed. I don’t understand that - it’s symbiotic. Just like it was for Dave Batista when he got the spot over Bryan. I think there’s a chance that we’re not understanding the full picture here one way or another.

It is stupid, but it is one way for them out of this mess.  Have Rock bring back corporate Rock leading to a match between the two down the line.  Let Rock be the evil authority figure of WWE.  And if need be, explain to people that wrestlers play characters on TV.

Feb 5, 2024 22:25:21 GMT c said:

Feb 5, 2024 22:20:37 GMT Todd said:

Meltzer thinks HHH is martyring Cody on purpose, but didn’t bank on Rock getting booed. I don’t understand that - it’s symbiotic. Just like it was for Dave Batista when he got the spot over Bryan. I think there’s a chance that we’re not understanding the full picture here one way or another.

It is stupid, but it is one way for them out of this mess.  Have Rock bring back corporate Rock leading to a match between the two down the line.  Let Rock be the evil authority figure of WWE.  And if need be, explain to people that wrestlers play characters on TV.

If he needs to explain in 2024 that wrestlers play characters on TV….

Feb 5, 2024 22:25:13 GMT KJ said:

Feb 5, 2024 22:22:55 GMT c said:

If you believe WM will be bigger you would hold your stocks to sell after the earnings from it are made public.  If you believe it not be as strong without Cody you would sell now before others realize this too.

Not sure how revenue is a moot point either, the sponsorships were signed with the Rock being there.  Millions of dollars coming in there from the Rock.  When he resigned he gave them back merch rights, which they expect to make another few million at least.  

Sure Cody sells a lot of shirts, but all this cash is on top of what Cody would have made headlining.  They got all the cash they can out of Cody, the Rock cash is on top of whatever he could have made.

Again feels like everyone is hating on the Rock because WWE did not just book Cody to lose the Rumble.  Decision comes above the Rock here even for who will headline, and fans should get used to this.  WWE no longer has full control of the company and when needed stories will change whether they like it or not as that is what happens when you sell majority rights to someone else.

You’re fucking crazy. People don’t play that long of a game with stock price, especially when there’s a scandal ongoing and an earnings report this month. Get real.

Sex scandal barely moved the price.  Drop about 4 points, but still up 15 since the Netflix deal.  People are holding right now.  Clearly they are playing the long game.  Stock is listed as a moderate buy as well.

Feb 5, 2024 22:28:08 GMT UT said:

Feb 5, 2024 22:25:21 GMT c said:

It is stupid, but it is one way for them out of this mess.  Have Rock bring back corporate Rock leading to a match between the two down the line.  Let Rock be the evil authority figure of WWE.  And if need be, explain to people that wrestlers play characters on TV.

If he needs to explain in 2024 that wrestlers play characters on TV….

I seriously hope not, but people are acting like if he acted heel again it would kill his movie career, which kind of is telling me otherwise.

Feb 5, 2024 22:28:20 GMT c said:

Feb 5, 2024 22:25:13 GMT KJ said:

You’re fucking crazy. People don’t play that long of a game with stock price, especially when there’s a scandal ongoing and an earnings report this month. Get real.

Sex scandal barely moved the price.  Drop about 4 points, but still up 15 since the Netflix deal.  People are holding right now.  Clearly they are playing the long game.  Stock is listed as a moderate buy as well.

Again, you’re crazy. The entire point is creative booking doesn’t drive stock price. It never has. Therefore citing “business” + Rock is stupid. And if you think a few million for shirts (allegedly) offset The Rock’s fee, you’re also crazy.

Feb 5, 2024 22:20:37 GMT Todd said:

Meltzer thinks HHH is martyring Cody on purpose, but didn’t bank on Rock getting booed. I don’t understand that - it’s symbiotic. Just like it was for Dave Batista when he got the spot over Bryan. I think there’s a chance that we’re not understanding the full picture here one way or another.

I want Big Dave to come back and play on his Drax character. He could get huge boos in the ring with Cody and genuinely believe they are booing Cody.

I don’t know what that has to do with anything but I really love Drax and Big Dave.

If people truly believed this was going to kill WWE, and destroy the value of WWE like many are claiming, the stock price should fall. That is how the market works.