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Post by Lionheart on Jul 3, 2019 15:55:40 GMT
1. The Deer Hunter 2. Taxi Driver 3. The Godfather, Part II 4. Raging Bull 5. The Untouchables 6. Heat 7. The Mission 8. Ronin 9. Once Upon a Time In America 10. Limitless
Limitless likely wouldn't last long if I watched a few more De Niro movies.
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Post by thereallt on Jul 4, 2019 12:26:45 GMT
Good call on The Untouchables and Once Upon a Time in America.
The baseball scene from Untouchables is easily one of DeNiro's most memorable and was an essential establishing character moment for Al Capone in the film. Just brilliant all around
Once Upon a Time in America is an absolutely stunning film.....if you watch the uncut version. Unfortunately the uncut version is an ass punishing 3 hrs and 49 minutes (and Leone originally had it 4 hrs and 25 before being convinced to edit it) so some folks might have to watch in stages. But the uncut version is THE ONLY version that should be watched. It will reward patient viewers handsomely.
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Post by Lionheart on Jul 9, 2019 21:55:17 GMT
Don't get too worked up over it, Kid. Most people just don't have the attention span to sit through a "boring" movie AKA a masterpiece character study drama without any action or stupidity to make them laugh.
They're all just a bunch of liberal cocksuckers anyway.
One of the more intolerant movie watchers I’ve come across speaking on the intolerance of others is rich. I love a good character piece when they are presented in an interesting way - The Deer Hunter failed to be interesting though.
I am sad if I have genuinely given off that impression. I am very vocal about the small amount of movies I hate and joke around a lot, but I like most movies I see.
As for The Deer Hunter, I am also sad to hear that you did not find it interesting and would not watch it again. I would be interested to know if something particular about it irked you or if you were just generally bored throughout? Any ideas of what it was lacking for you specifically?
I'll explain what I liked about it. I would disagree with Shootist about the pacing being an issue but, as he mentioned, of course De Niro is a phenomenal actor. Everyone here knows it and that's why we had this list in the first place. I generally just enjoy watching his performances regardless of which movie. But, this is one of the first movies of his I ever saw. And I was wowed by it. The pleasure of getting to see him realistically portray such an emotionally complex character in the setting of such a somber and powerful topic was reason enough for me to love this movie. But I was also drawn in by the content matter itself. I had no Earthly idea that any of the stuff shown in the movie was actually going on and it was certainly an eye-opener. I watched this at a relatively young age and had never heard of Russian roulette before. If someone pitched me the idea of people being forced to play Russian roulette in a dramatically convincing and emotional way, I would immediately be sold on a movie. Experiencing psychological tension like that is one of the great things about movies. And it did not disappoint here. I was very invested in those scenes.
To explain what I like about the character more, the transformative aspects were just really on point. I've said time and time again that character development is one of the most important parts of a movie and really drives the whole story, and is something a lot of movies under-invest in. Not so here. Not only does De Niro's character change, but you pretty much experience his entire world changing. The movie really draws you in to the quaint environment of the small town at the start and the bond between him and his buddies. The charm is there. You don't just see normal guys, but you feel the whole vibe of friendship and overall atmosphere that everything is right in the world.
After the war, when he returns he is a completely changed man. Nothing feels right anymore. He can't even enjoy hunting, his once beloved pastime, because he realizes now that the aspects of it he admired are too close to the horrors that he witnessed. The entire town is different because you now see it through the eyes of a changed man. He has become the soldier from the wedding at the start that he once hated for not being very patriotic. His eyes have opened and he now sees the truth. Then, despite all his pain, he still sets forth on a desperate journey to save his friend.
This movie was just wonderful storytelling and execution throughout that really resonated with me.
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Post by 🤯 on Jul 10, 2019 1:45:30 GMT
One of the more intolerant movie watchers I’ve come across speaking on the intolerance of others is rich. I love a good character piece when they are presented in an interesting way - The Deer Hunter failed to be interesting though. I am sad if I have genuinely given off that impression. I am very vocal about the small amount of movies I hate and joke around a lot, but I like most movies I see.
As for The Deer Hunter, I am also sad to hear that you did not find it interesting and would not watch it again. I would be interested to know if something particular about it irked you or if you were just generally bored throughout? Any ideas of what it was lacking for you specifically?
I'll explain what I liked about it. I would disagree with Shootist about the pacing being an issue but, as he mentioned, of course De Niro is a phenomenal actor. Everyone here knows it and that's why we had this list in the first place. I generally just enjoy watching his performances regardless of which movie. But, this is one of the first movies of his I ever saw. And I was wowed by it. The pleasure of getting to see him realistically portray such an emotionally complex character in the setting of such a somber and powerful topic was reason enough for me to love this movie. But I was also drawn in by the content matter itself. I had no Earthly idea that any of the stuff shown in the movie was actually going on and it was certainly an eye-opener. I watched this at a relatively young age and had never heard of Russian roulette before. If someone pitched me the idea of people being forced to play Russian roulette in a dramatically convincing and emotional way, I would immediately be sold on a movie. Experiencing psychological tension like that is one of the great things about movies. And it did not disappoint here. I was very invested in those scenes. To explain what I like about the character more, the transformative aspects were just really on point. I've said time and time again that character development is one of the most important parts of a movie and really drives the whole story, and is something a lot of movies under-invest in. Not so here. Not only does De Niro's character change, but you pretty much experience his entire world changing. The movie really draws you in to the quaint environment of the small town at the start and the bond between him and his buddies. The charm is there. You don't just see normal guys, but you feel the whole vibe of friendship and overall atmosphere that everything is right in the world. After the war, when he returns he is a completely changed man. Nothing feels right anymore. He can't even enjoy hunting, his once beloved pastime, because he realizes now that the aspects of it he admired are too close to the horrors that he witnessed. The entire town is different because you now see it through the eyes of a changed man. He has become the soldier from the wedding at the start that he once hated for not being very patriotic. His eyes have opened and he now sees the truth. Then, despite all his pain, he still sets forth on a desperate journey to save his friend. This movie was just wonderful storytelling and execution throughout that really resonated with me.
The lack of realism for the in-country parts with respect to military accuracy was the straw that broke my back. Also, only semi portraying Pittsburgh accurately. Bullshit.
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Post by Lionheart on Jul 10, 2019 2:32:27 GMT
lack of realism for the in-country parts with respect to military accuracy was the straw that broke my back. Also, only semi portraying Pittsburgh accurately. Bullshit. I wasn’t talking to you! You have piqued my curiosity though. What was unrealistic with respect to military accuracy? This better not be something like those persnickety meticulos that said at the end of Greyhound that it was a terrible movie because “the China to serve the tea would never have been allowed on the bridge if it were a real navy ship.”
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Post by 🤯 on Jul 10, 2019 2:55:09 GMT
lack of realism for the in-country parts with respect to military accuracy was the straw that broke my back. Also, only semi portraying Pittsburgh accurately. Bullshit. I wasn’t talking to you! You have piqued my curiosity though. What was unrealistic with respect to military accuracy? This better not be something like those persnickety meticulos that said at the end of Greyhound that it was a terrible movie because “the China to serve the tea would never have been allowed on the bridge if it were a real navy ship.” Uniform inaccuracy and the combat scenes felt a little too "bad Rambo". Instead of feeling even remotely authentic, it felt forced and ignorant and offputting... at least to me. But I put Vietnam movies on a pedestal and hold em to a high bar of standards because of my dad. For comparison, I feel like Born of the Fourth of July gets it right for a movie with minimal in-country scenes that really aren't critical per se the the movie as a whole but at least endeavor to get things right or at least close to accurate. But then again, maybe Bot4oJ benefits from being another Stone creation and Stone being a Vietnam vet himself.
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Post by thereallt on Jul 10, 2019 3:55:07 GMT
I wasn’t talking to you! You have piqued my curiosity though. What was unrealistic with respect to military accuracy? This better not be something like those persnickety meticulos that said at the end of Greyhound that it was a terrible movie because “the China to serve the tea would never have been allowed on the bridge if it were a real navy ship.” Uniform inaccuracy and the combat scenes felt a little too "bad Rambo". Instead of feeling even remotely authentic, it felt forced and ignorant and offputting... at least to me. But I put Vietnam movies on a pedestal and hold em to a high bar of standards because of my dad. For comparison, I feel like Born of the Fourth of July gets it right for a movie with minimal in-country scenes that really aren't critical per se the the movie as a whole but at least endeavor to get things right or at least close to accurate. But then again, maybe Bot4oJ benefits from being another Stone creation and Stone being a Vietnam vet himself. Very few Vietnam films really get it right. We Were Soldiers came the closest.
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Post by Lionheart on Jul 10, 2019 4:15:09 GMT
Uniform inaccuracy and the combat scenes felt a little too "bad Rambo". Instead of feeling even remotely authentic, it felt forced and ignorant and offputting... at least to me. But I put Vietnam movies on a pedestal and hold em to a high bar of standards because of my dad. For comparison, I feel like Born of the Fourth of July gets it right for a movie with minimal in-country scenes that really aren't critical per se the the movie as a whole but at least endeavor to get things right or at least close to accurate. But then again, maybe Bot4oJ benefits from being another Stone creation and Stone being a Vietnam vet himself. Well, I have no knowledge of what any of those inaccuracies would be since I’ve only seen combat in films haha so it doesn’t bother me. I guess your dad was in Vietnam? I actually just played Born on the Fourth of July on the 4th of July coincidentally. Now that I think about it though, I find it humorous when films get tech stuff wrong which I do know about (like Enemy of the State) but I never felt that made the movie bad or anything. I understand it being a different situation if it’s a war related thing though.
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Post by UT on Jul 10, 2019 14:23:05 GMT
One of the more intolerant movie watchers I’ve come across speaking on the intolerance of others is rich. I love a good character piece when they are presented in an interesting way - The Deer Hunter failed to be interesting though.
I am sad if I have genuinely given off that impression. I am very vocal about the small amount of movies I hate and joke around a lot, but I like most movies I see.
As for The Deer Hunter, I am also sad to hear that you did not find it interesting and would not watch it again. I would be interested to know if something particular about it irked you or if you were just generally bored throughout? Any ideas of what it was lacking for you specifically?
I'll explain what I liked about it. I would disagree with Shootist about the pacing being an issue but, as he mentioned, of course De Niro is a phenomenal actor. Everyone here knows it and that's why we had this list in the first place. I generally just enjoy watching his performances regardless of which movie. But, this is one of the first movies of his I ever saw. And I was wowed by it. The pleasure of getting to see him realistically portray such an emotionally complex character in the setting of such a somber and powerful topic was reason enough for me to love this movie. But I was also drawn in by the content matter itself. I had no Earthly idea that any of the stuff shown in the movie was actually going on and it was certainly an eye-opener. I watched this at a relatively young age and had never heard of Russian roulette before. If someone pitched me the idea of people being forced to play Russian roulette in a dramatically convincing and emotional way, I would immediately be sold on a movie. Experiencing psychological tension like that is one of the great things about movies. And it did not disappoint here. I was very invested in those scenes.
To explain what I like about the character more, the transformative aspects were just really on point. I've said time and time again that character development is one of the most important parts of a movie and really drives the whole story, and is something a lot of movies under-invest in. Not so here. Not only does De Niro's character change, but you pretty much experience his entire world changing. The movie really draws you in to the quaint environment of the small town at the start and the bond between him and his buddies. The charm is there. You don't just see normal guys, but you feel the whole vibe of friendship and overall atmosphere that everything is right in the world.
After the war, when he returns he is a completely changed man. Nothing feels right anymore. He can't even enjoy hunting, his once beloved pastime, because he realizes now that the aspects of it he admired are too close to the horrors that he witnessed. The entire town is different because you now see it through the eyes of a changed man. He has become the soldier from the wedding at the start that he once hated for not being very patriotic. His eyes have opened and he now sees the truth. Then, despite all his pain, he still sets forth on a desperate journey to save his friend.
This movie was just wonderful storytelling and execution throughout that really resonated with me.
I mean I have a horrible time remember specific instances of movies I don't like because I usually check out of them but yes I was bored throughout. The wedding scene in particular (I think) drug on way too long and felt like it didn't even really belong to the extent that it did and could have used some editing - along with other parts of the movie that drug. I get that might have been the feeling they were going for but for me - I wanted to just turn it off. And it's hard to get me back from that point forward because I'm already checking for something else to do/read/play to distract me from the movie. If I went back and watched it again (I won't) but if I did - I could probably lay down even more specifics but that would be getting bored all over again. I do think had they used some retraint and edited the film down and took out some parts it could have been a more palatable movie but as it stood it was a slog of 3 hours.
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Post by 🤯 on Jul 10, 2019 14:39:39 GMT
Uniform inaccuracy and the combat scenes felt a little too "bad Rambo". Instead of feeling even remotely authentic, it felt forced and ignorant and offputting... at least to me. But I put Vietnam movies on a pedestal and hold em to a high bar of standards because of my dad. For comparison, I feel like Born of the Fourth of July gets it right for a movie with minimal in-country scenes that really aren't critical per se the the movie as a whole but at least endeavor to get things right or at least close to accurate. But then again, maybe Bot4oJ benefits from being another Stone creation and Stone being a Vietnam vet himself. Very few Vietnam films really get it right. We Were Soldiers came the closest. We Were Soldiers and Platoon are the bars, based on viewings with Pops 🤯.
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Post by Ness on Jul 18, 2019 0:50:43 GMT
I'm watching Goodfellas right now. All I know about it is the clown scene and the laugh image from it that's used for memes. Here we go!
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Post by 🤯 on Jul 18, 2019 1:04:02 GMT
I'm watching Goodfellas right now. All I know about it is the clown scene and the laugh image from it that's used for memes. Here we go! Fuck yeah!
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Post by UT on Jul 18, 2019 16:01:35 GMT
I'm watching Goodfellas right now. All I know about it is the clown scene and the laugh image from it that's used for memes. Here we go! So what's the final take Ness?!
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Post by Ness on Jul 18, 2019 18:08:05 GMT
I'm watching Goodfellas right now. All I know about it is the clown scene and the laugh image from it that's used for memes. Here we go! So what's the final take Ness?! I'm about half way thru. Pretty great up to this point but Deniro seems like an extended cameo so far. I'm assuming he plays a larger role in the second half. We'll see.
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Post by UT on Jul 18, 2019 18:55:21 GMT
So what's the final take Ness?! I'm about half way thru. Pretty great up to this point but Deniro seems like an extended cameo so far. I'm assuming he plays a larger role in the second half. We'll see. It’s weird to me when people divide movies up into pieces.
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Post by Ness on Jul 19, 2019 1:21:26 GMT
I'm about half way thru. Pretty great up to this point but Deniro seems like an extended cameo so far. I'm assuming he plays a larger role in the second half. We'll see. It’s weird to me when people divide movies up into pieces. Unless I'm at a theater I don't tend to watch things in one sitting. Too many online distractions that way.
Awesome movie. I dunno if I can put it on the same level as some of you guys have (goat) but it's certainly up there. Ending caught me by surprise since I didn't know how it played in real life. Was expecting a more downer.
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