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Post by iNCY on Aug 27, 2021 23:16:47 GMT
More GOP states in the US have eradicated the COVID threat, by simply refusing to allow the complying of official state numbers for cases, testing and deaths. I'm kind of okay with this if it's done in conjunction with promoting vaccines and making them widely available. The infection rate isn't really an indication of anything meaningful moving forward.
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Post by c on Aug 27, 2021 23:26:44 GMT
These states banned vaccine mandates and mask mandates. They stopped the numbers, because they are out of hospital beds and people are starting to die both those with COVID and though without COVID who need surgical operations.
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Post by c on Aug 27, 2021 23:32:03 GMT
Looking like a new variant may be brewing in New England. We are seeing clusters of fatal breakthrough cases. Mass last month, now one in CT.
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Post by 🤯 on Aug 27, 2021 23:39:29 GMT
Looking like a new variant may be brewing in New England. We are seeing clusters of fatal breakthrough cases. Mass last month, now one in CT. So blue states are the hot bed for perpetuating this disease?
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Post by iNCY on Aug 27, 2021 23:59:19 GMT
Looking like a new variant may be brewing in New England. We are seeing clusters of fatal breakthrough cases. Mass last month, now one in CT. So blue states are the hot bed for perpetuating this disease? No, old and terminally ill people die... People act as if without Covid we'd be immortal. Even in blue states you're hovering around 60-65% vaccinated which is going to lead to a hell of a lot of deaths, it will take 80% to even shift the needle on deaths. Delta is no more deadly than Alpha, it just spreads easier. So it's essentially just a numbers game.
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Post by c on Aug 28, 2021 3:24:14 GMT
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Post by c on Aug 28, 2021 5:28:15 GMT
Stories of children with no underlying health conditions dying from COVID being reported in several areas. If only someone could have predicted this would happen.
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Post by c on Aug 28, 2021 6:08:22 GMT
Hurricane heading towards Louisiana. Their hospitals are at capacity from COVID so this is a nightmare situation brewing where the hurricane hit and there is nowhere to treat the wounded.
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Post by Ness on Aug 28, 2021 11:11:10 GMT
Hurricane heading towards Louisiana. Their hospitals are at capacity from COVID so this is a nightmare situation brewing where the hurricane hit and there is nowhere to treat the wounded. This is what got the dinosaurs. Humans are finished.
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Post by c on Aug 29, 2021 5:43:56 GMT
Read a fun court decision. Parent lost child visitation after telling a judge at a child support hearing they would not get vaccinated. Judge considered this a danger to the child that was easily fixed and revoked visitation until the parent was vaccinated. Gonna hear a lot of people scream about freedom when this, and other cases like it, start to make news.
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Post by c on Aug 29, 2021 7:26:18 GMT
Neat study found that Luvox may be useful in treating COVID. Luvox is a dirt cheap SSRI and readily available. Also may effects may generalize to other classical SSRIs.
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Post by System on Aug 29, 2021 7:35:43 GMT
Read a fun court decision. Parent lost child visitation after telling a judge at a child support hearing they would not get vaccinated. Judge considered this a danger to the child that was easily fixed and revoked visitation until the parent was vaccinated. Gonna hear a lot of people scream about freedom when this, and other cases like it, start to make news. Imagine thinking that is actually ok
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Post by c on Aug 29, 2021 7:48:13 GMT
If a parent will not do something as simple as get a vaccine, it is a sign they do not believe they have a duty to keep a safe environment for the child. The law is not on their side at all and judges are more and more taking a zero tolerance policy towards anti-vaccine attitudes.
To stop this someone will have to push to the supreme court and get them to rule that parental freedom is more important than child safety in family law. Given the opposite is kind of the backbone of family law, not seeing them overturning this attitude, and since judges rule in favor of the children, mandating a vaccine to keep the child safer from COVID does not seem really extreme given they can rule right now that family pets need to gotten rid of, or bar people from being around a child.
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Post by nath45 on Aug 30, 2021 1:43:03 GMT
Nearly 1300 cases today in NSW, as NSW's outbreak reaches 20,000.
#goldstandard
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Post by c on Aug 30, 2021 2:34:36 GMT
Super curious to see how lockdown ends for Australia. NSW is lost, best you can hope for is containment from Brisbane and Victoria. But either way, 70%, 80%, 90% vaccinated, whatever they use as the threshold sooner or later a call will be made to let it spread and COVID will rip through the cities. Gonna be a super fast spike in cases as most people get a mild case of COVID due to vaccines, then deaths as the unvaccinated get ripped apart. Politics behind just letting these people die due to their own idiocy will be super interesting as an outsider to see.
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Post by nath45 on Aug 30, 2021 4:51:38 GMT
Messaging from the top is, containment or eradication should not be the goal of the state premiers.
Basically get the vaccination numbers up to what was agreed to at National Cabinet and open the hell up.
States are running rogue, with the treasurer bemused today by the notion, someone could travel from Australia to Canada for example, but can't travel to other parts of their own country.
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Post by iNCY on Aug 30, 2021 5:39:41 GMT
It's a bit of a nonsense, once the Eastern states open up, we will have 10k plus cases per week in the community. The idea that you could keep them out of WA or QLD with the amount of freight etc moved across the country is a nonsense. It is not a question of "Will" these states get a serious outbreak, but when. The issue in Melbourne is that our super-harsh Level 4 lockdown is designed to be short and sharp for elimination, it is not sustainable as a long term containment strategy. I don't think there is an openness in the community to enduring stage 4 lockdowns until the end of October. We are just starting to see bookings open up to the under 30's for Pfizer so the numbers are going to take off like a rocker for a month. Maybe we hit 70% when they say, don't think the 80% is going to happen
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Post by c on Aug 30, 2021 10:24:08 GMT
I love the assumption in that graph is that 120k doses will be given a day, every day. Just a casual assumption that this rate is fixed and will not slow so you can project months into the future. Also love the original goal assumed everyone in the country will be vaccinated by Nov. Somehow I just do not see that as a reality. The first 18 million may not be hard to vaccinate, but the last 4 million will be a nightmare to vaccinate as these are your people living off the grid, living in super remote places, anti-vax loons, etc.
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Post by iNCY on Aug 30, 2021 11:07:04 GMT
Yes c, this is always the danger of a hockey stick graph. It's also the problem with most models.
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Post by c on Aug 30, 2021 11:32:25 GMT
Most models add the 95 CI bands these days and do not fix the slope.
Also this is not what is normally considered a model outside of physics as it is a mechanical model. The line would be y[x] = y[x-1] + 121k where x is weeks measured. There is no variance to this, as it is a closed system. Propose this in scientific lit in most fields and you will get laughed at.
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Post by c on Aug 30, 2021 13:41:41 GMT
LMAO, stores in the South now requiring proof of horse ownership to get horse dewormer.
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Post by c on Aug 30, 2021 15:39:56 GMT
Holy shit, an Ohio court compelled a hospital to administer the horse dewormer to a COVID patient against the wishes of the hospital. He will get the human form, but it is not approved for COVID treatment, the manufacturer says there is little evidence that it helps with COVID and the hospital doctors oppose the use of it for treatment. No release of liability was granted either, so if he dies, they can still sue the hospital for malpractice and easily win. Shit need to find me a doctor who will prescribe cocaine and head off to this hospital...
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Post by c on Aug 30, 2021 16:32:25 GMT
Damn fun day for random COVID news:
"The defence wants intelligent people on the jury [that] understand complicated notions like the presumption of innocence, concepts like proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
In my own [opinion] the great majority of people who are not getting their double vaccination do not trust science ... I think [they] lack a considerable amount of sophistication, and also lack a certain amount of social responsibility to other members of the community. So they're not the kind of jurors I would want on my jury anyway."
Statement from a lawyer who dismissed all unvaccinated people from a Canadian jury pool. Basically anti-vaxers are too stupid to risk having on a jury for the defense.
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Post by 🤯 on Aug 30, 2021 17:19:30 GMT
anti-vaxers are too stupid I made this post much more to the point for you.
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Post by 🤯 on Aug 30, 2021 17:20:16 GMT
Holy shit, an Ohio court compelled a hospital to administer the horse dewormer to a COVID patient against the wishes of the hospital. He will get the human form, but it is not approved for COVID treatment, the manufacturer says there is little evidence that it helps with COVID and the hospital doctors oppose the use of it for treatment. No release of liability was granted either, so if he dies, they can still sue the hospital for malpractice and easily win. Shit need to find me a doctor who will prescribe cocaine and head off to this hospital... Man, Ness. Talk about salt in the wounds. No weed for you, but all the mandated dewormer you could ever even not want!
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Post by Ness on Aug 30, 2021 17:37:48 GMT
Holy shit, an Ohio court compelled a hospital to administer the horse dewormer to a COVID patient against the wishes of the hospital. He will get the human form, but it is not approved for COVID treatment, the manufacturer says there is little evidence that it helps with COVID and the hospital doctors oppose the use of it for treatment. No release of liability was granted either, so if he dies, they can still sue the hospital for malpractice and easily win. Shit need to find me a doctor who will prescribe cocaine and head off to this hospital... Man, Ness. Talk about salt in the wounds. No weed for you, but all the mandated dewormer you could ever even not want! The proportional speed and strength of a pony here I come. The Assman is the new hero to watch for.
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Post by c on Aug 30, 2021 22:28:14 GMT
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Post by c on Aug 30, 2021 22:43:36 GMT
Also your move Christians:
Leviticus 13:45-46
And the leper in whom the plague is, his clothes shall be rent, and his head bare, and he shall put a covering upon his upper lip, and shall cry, Unclean, unclean.
All the days wherein the plague shall be in him he shall be defiled; he is unclean: he shall dwell alone; without the camp shall his habitation be.
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Post by iNCY on Aug 30, 2021 22:45:33 GMT
Also your move Christians: Leviticus 13:45-46 And the leper in whom the plague is, his clothes shall be rent, and his head bare, and he shall put a covering upon his upper lip, and shall cry, Unclean, unclean. All the days wherein the plague shall be in him he shall be defiled; he is unclean: he shall dwell alone; without the camp shall his habitation be. Idly wondering what Leviticus has to do with Christians?
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Post by iron maiden on Aug 31, 2021 3:27:40 GMT
Mask protocols go back into place here Friday. And now we wait for the protests over being 'oppressed'. Afghanistan is oppressed, Native Americans/Canadians are oppressed, hell Australia is more oppressed than we are. It's a mask. Try wearing a bra every day!
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