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Post by c on Sept 24, 2023 7:24:35 GMT
I am waiting for NYC to send them back to Texas.
But yeah this should be done federally. The GOP however will not reform asylum laws, and until they are reformed they have a right to come and ask for asylum.
The Biden plan for asylum centers international in embassies is a good one that will help, but the GOP opposes it. They do not really want to fix it, they want people crossing over as they can complain about it when they have nothing else to argue about. It is why they did not fix it when they mandates.
Like their plan is literally just to tell people more they cannot come over, and to send them back if they are here, which is already federal policy. Most of the shit they talk about is not in HR2. They will merely add some more people to the border that will do nothing to solve the problem, and little to stop the flow. And their own people do not support some things in it, like creating a federal database of all citizens to verify people's work status. Then they want to build a second wall. Walls do not work as they can scaffold over them.
I do kind of want this to pass, as e-verify can then be used as national firearm registry as well.
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Post by thereallt on Sept 24, 2023 7:28:02 GMT
Got to love states crying Obama did not do anything, then whine that he took control when he did. States have plenty of legal ways they can safeguard their borders. They just cost money, so they will not do them. They use the border to bitch about dems, they do not give two shits about actual security. LOL...you can't be serious. The Obama adminstration SUED states that tried to police their own borders. And the courts rules in the adminstration's favor. Immigration enforcement is federal jurisdiction. Full stop. End of story.
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Post by c on Sept 24, 2023 7:30:23 GMT
Let's say what this is really about, deporting children. Not violent people, not gangs, people brought to the US as children the states wanted to deport.
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Post by iNCY on Sept 24, 2023 11:59:04 GMT
I am waiting for NYC to send them back to Texas. But yeah this should be done federally. The GOP however will not reform asylum laws, and until they are reformed they have a right to come and ask for asylum. The Biden plan for asylum centers international in embassies is a good one that will help, but the GOP opposes it. They do not really want to fix it, they want people crossing over as they can complain about it when they have nothing else to argue about. It is why they did not fix it when they mandates. Like their plan is literally just to tell people more they cannot come over, and to send them back if they are here, which is already federal policy. Most of the shit they talk about is not in HR2. They will merely add some more people to the border that will do nothing to solve the problem, and little to stop the flow. And their own people do not support some things in it, like creating a federal database of all citizens to verify people's work status. Then they want to build a second wall. Walls do not work as they can scaffold over them. I do kind of want this to pass, as e-verify can then be used as national firearm registry as well. The number of people that illegally crossing the border in FYE 2022 was 2.76m. What do you suppose larger ebassises will do for that?
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Post by c on Sept 24, 2023 20:36:41 GMT
Make it so they do not come all the way to the border from South America to make an asylum claim. Like we can build the biggest way, have soldiers shoot to kill and put up landmines but it will change nothing if we tell people they can come to the US to make claims of asylum, and the place to make those claims are at or across the border.
GOP does not want to fix the asylum process, only use it to blame democrats, get cheap labor and funnel money to friendly contractors.
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Post by iNCY on Sept 24, 2023 21:19:15 GMT
Make it so they do not come all the way to the border from South America to make an asylum claim. Like we can build the biggest way, have soldiers shoot to kill and put up landmines but it will change nothing if we tell people they can come to the US to make claims of asylum, and the place to make those claims are at or across the border. GOP does not want to fix the asylum process, only use it to blame democrats, get cheap labor and funnel money to friendly contractors. Trump tried to build a wall, you can call it a stupid solution but it was an attempted solution. I haven't seen any moves from the Democrats to curtail the mass incursions on the Southern border at all, so it is a bit rich to blame the GOP. As an impartial observer I wouldn't be offended if the USA millitarised the border, no I don't think you should shoot to kill but I do think you need to make it unattractive to cross. It's not a USA problem, the same thing is happening all over Europe at the moment.
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Post by c on Sept 24, 2023 23:07:26 GMT
The wall did nothing but cost us billions. For 10 bucks worth of supplies at stores near the border they made scaffolding to climb over. Then in other places they just sawed through. Then in other places the wall simply fell over. This is not real border control.
Dems put in policy anyone who crosses illegally gets no asylum claim. The extension wanted is to force them to get asylum approval in their host country before they get to the border to come over, which will allow us to block asylum claims at the border from select countries. GOP against spending money on this despite it costing a fraction of what a second wall will.
Cannot militarized the border without allowing force. Otherwise you just walk by. If you want a to create a fully manned order will need a draft as there are not enough guard members to do it. And our army should be repurposed to the border.
Which is where states come in. They can man it with state police or national guard. Texas already is. They cannot operate on the Mexican side, or the border itself, nor use police levels of force, but once they are in Texas proper they can be detained and shipped to border control proper.
What they want to do however is allow police style force, attacking migrants with whips or clubs, and to create their own courts to rule on asylum claims on behalf of the US. They also want to make it illegal for an asylum seeker to enter Texas whether pending review or not. This is the shit getting lawsuits as they want to take control of it on a state level, but funded by federal resources.
The irony of all this, is only 1/4th of all illegal immigrants cross the border at all. Most are visa overstays. But no one seems to care about that as it is not a cut and dry political issue.
And yeah asylum is an international problem. I follow a bit of Aussielands issues on it. Also is Florida illegal entry on rafts in the US that no one talks about. The problem I see is countries saying you can come and make an asylum claim, then when people do the countries now wanting to actually grant it. That is my problem with this all. That and the US keeps getting scammed buying walls at insanely inflated prices that do not actually stop anyone from crossing.
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Post by c on Sept 25, 2023 0:16:55 GMT
Bob Menendez was found with half a million in cash hidden in his house. Because he is a democrat, I think we should do nothing and demand the government not be weaponized against people for nonsense crimes like accepting bribes or interference in a federal investigation. He should just keep his seat until people forget about it like Gaetz and Santos did and claim it is a witch hunt and delay his trials for a decade until he retires like Trump is doing. Not shocking first person to demand he resigns was Fetterman. "Senator Menendez should resign. He’s entitled to the presumption of innocence under our system, but he is not entitled to continue to wield influence over national policy, especially given the serious and specific nature of the allegations. I hope he chooses an honorable exit and focuses on his trial." Justice dems also say the mere fact there are charges is enough to demand him resign right now. Mainline dems do not want to push him because if he was a GOP lawmaker this would not be a problem. That was shown with Gaetz, Santos, Thomas and Trump. Mainline dems think they could just match the GOP for when people should be removed from office, which is maybe after conviction. I am with the Justice Dems, if the DOJ is investigating someone for crimes related to their office, then they should not remain in said office. It should be common sense to not allow them to keep engaging in corruption. But this is now the minority view in the US in a post Trump world. Not a Turley fan normally, but he nailed the problems with graft in DC in this article talking about the Goldilocks rule of corruption. Almost everyone is allowed to be corrupt, you just cannot be more corrupt than the norm. He is an expert on corruption in constitutional law too so worth listening to for this topic. thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/4218489-robert-menendez-broke-the-goldilocks-rule-of-corruption/
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Post by c on Sept 25, 2023 13:52:14 GMT
Seeing a movement start in hard left spaces no bailouts without student loan forgiveness. Almost certain when the loan repayments restart a recession starts and small businesses start to go under. People can pay loans or inflationary prices not both. They start to make cuts to spending, we get corporations screaming for bailouts.
Progressives in congress will share this view and support letting businesses fail finally rather than give them more money while we are told the US has no money to spend.
Just saw my loan broke 200k, so when my psych practice gets a MD nulling my shit finally.
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Post by c on Sept 25, 2023 14:20:57 GMT
Menendez expected to announce he is running for re-election in 2024 despite the federal corruption charges. Guess if it works for Trump, it can work for him too.
Edit: And yup he denied all charges and refused to answer questions about why he had gold bars hidden in his walls. He also implied he will be running for reelection.
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Post by iNCY on Sept 25, 2023 22:04:12 GMT
I love a good conspiracy theory, I have read a few similar versions of this one:
Kamala will be forced to resign as VP, and sent to the senate to replace Dianne Feinstein.
Then, Gavin Newsom will be subbed in as VP. Sometime well before the election Biden stands down with health issues.
I don't know if it will happen, but from the Dem side it's a pretty sound strategy.
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Post by c on Sept 25, 2023 22:21:10 GMT
Biden and Harris are the candidates for 2024. Not sure why so many believe they will not be. Also wasn't it Michelle Obama replacing Biden and Newsom replacing Harris last week?
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Post by thereallt on Sept 27, 2023 0:01:46 GMT
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Post by c on Sept 27, 2023 0:49:53 GMT
Be a high five in the US from many. Trump did a press event at a gun store that openly supported Boogaloo shit.
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Post by Michinokudriver on Sept 27, 2023 0:51:10 GMT
I love a good conspiracy theory, I have read a few similar versions of this one: Kamala will be forced to resign as VP, and sent to the senate to replace Dianne Feinstein. Then, Gavin Newsom will be subbed in as VP. Sometime well before the election Biden stands down with health issues. I don't know if it will happen, but from the Dem side it's a pretty sound strategy. I mean I guess it's a solid conspiracy theory in that it's not impossible, but Gavin Newsom?
Dude who was one of the front-line politicians of the gay marriage movement, who had an affair with his campaign manager's wife, and his ex-wife is now a talking head for Fox? He'd get slaughtered in the general, and the Biden administration would have given up the incumbent advantage for nothing.
Or it's a Biden/Newsom ticket, Biden steps down in between the election results and the inauguration, and Mitch "I held up a Supreme Court nomination for a year" McConnell does his thing and says the People didn't elect Gavin Newsom, and he'd be right.
And all this is coming from a guy who voted for him for Mayor, for Governor, and probably would vote for him for President. He wouldn't win a run on his own merits at this point in time, and any backdoor shenanigans wouldn't help his case.
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Post by c on Sept 27, 2023 0:59:23 GMT
The Murdoch one is Newsom, the alt-right social media one is Michelle Obama. In both cases Biden leaves the race after the dem primary, and the other finishes his run and is elected into office for term 2. None of it makes any sense as both would beat Biden in a primary anyway, and beat Trump. And in both situations the president wins office with no vice president for some reason.
Then again, a lot these conspiracy people claim Biden is insane or dead and replaced with a body double and with a bad AI voice because he stutters and swaps arounds words when he speaks. Meanwhile Trump, the peak of cognitive functioning, says Biden is about to lead into World War II due to his cognitive decline. Guess letting Nazis take out Russia is one way to end the war in Ukraine though.
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Post by c on Sept 27, 2023 1:06:25 GMT
Interesting defense Trump planned to use in court but was not allowed to was that it did not matter if he inflated the prices of his properties because he had interested parties in Saudi Arabia that would buy them at any price. Like say, the parties his son in law made deals with. Judge rejected the defense obviously when the partial judgement was entered.
Trump boys are freaking the fuck out as they are more involved in Trump Org than pops, and their golden goose is now dead and their entire business model exposed. With the details now out, other states are looking into the tax and bank forms for all of the Trumps.
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Post by c on Sept 27, 2023 7:05:22 GMT
Courts ruled there will be a protected jury in the Trump RICO case due to Trump's social media posts about the trial.
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Post by c on Sept 27, 2023 17:01:17 GMT
Elon Musk plans to solve the border crisis. He is visiting personally this week with the House GOP. I presume he will then propose one of his company's build an unclimbable wall funded by the US taxpayer.
Narrative being spun now is traditional media is not covering the border enough, despite daily border stories.
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Post by c on Sept 28, 2023 16:09:51 GMT
Satanic Panic playing a song in the Indiana State Courthouse under Freedom of Religion laws. Surreal.
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Post by c on Sept 28, 2023 16:56:37 GMT
Two days to a shutdown and the GOP have a disastrous Biden impeachment hearing. None of the witnesses believe Biden committed an impeachable act, nor have evidence of such, and what is revealed is the crimes they are accusing Biden of, Trump actually committed. Rudy and his people also are all blocked from testifying, despite being key people in the impeachment hearings.
For the shutdown still no offramp for the GOP. Senate passed a simple CR, but McCarthy refuses to hold a vote on it, as Gaetz and crew said they would call for a speaker vote if he does.
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Wow, GOP expected a Jan 6th style meeting and got their asses handed to them in the house today to the point of embarrassment on Bidengate. They had no evidence and that was clear early on, so Dems mocked them for hours and called them out for wasting time on this as we move into a shutdown of their own making.
Early reports are senate GOP and Trump are raging as how embarrassing this hearing was. AOC pointing out that the GOP reps could openly lie as they present things since they are not underoath, and showing how they were using fabricated images, was brutal.
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Post by c on Sept 28, 2023 19:05:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2023 19:14:22 GMT
Very last paragraph of the article: “ Arnold stressed that the city's water remains safe and drinkable. He called on residents not to panic and said the situation was manageable.”
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Post by c on Sept 28, 2023 20:20:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2023 20:30:48 GMT
And the very next sentence in that article says no need to panic. Quit with the scare tactics.
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Post by c on Sept 28, 2023 20:33:20 GMT
Oh my bad, the major said not to panic there is no problem clearly. No need for people to worry about salt water in their public water supply.
Weird that the military is there trying to build a salt wall, and they are trying to make an emergency pipeline to head this off for being nothing though.
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Post by c on Sept 28, 2023 22:08:46 GMT
Court rejected Trump's attempt to delay the fraud trial in NY so it will start Monday. Trump was found liable in summary judgement, so the court will only consider damages.
Trump, Ivanka, Jr and Im Eric will all be called by the AG to testify until oath.
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Also here is the evidence of Biden's crimes Fox is talking about...
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Post by c on Sept 29, 2023 3:57:03 GMT
Super surreal moment today when Biden and not Trump was the quest speaker at an event for former Republican Senator John McCain. One of Biden's best speeches as well, about McCain and American democracy. Guess people will claim this was the AI bot since no really bad stutter moments.
This is contrasted with Trump speaking to a group of people who did not work at an non-union plant and were not union members and claiming that windmills make whales mentally ill and that electric cars will end the auto manufacturing industry not realizing that UAW workers also make electric cars at the detroit plants.
But Biden is one that has severe dementia.
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