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Post by c on Sept 29, 2023 15:36:45 GMT
Confirmed today that Feinstein is dead. Wonder if she will still finish her term <.<
Missed this as well yesterday. God this hearing was great.
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Post by c on Sept 29, 2023 16:40:23 GMT
State of Emergency in NYC today. Been raining really hard here and shit is flooding everywhere. Tons of basement damage going on. Got flooding where I am at, but I am on a hill and am fine. Roads in my area are underwater too though.
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Post by c on Sept 29, 2023 17:44:00 GMT
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Post by thereallt on Sept 29, 2023 17:53:10 GMT
Feinstein is the PRIME example of why term limits are needed. Politicians dying in office of old age instead of retiring is a disgrace. I don't care which party does it.
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Post by c on Sept 29, 2023 17:59:08 GMT
Or at the very least annual third party cog assessments. I fully believe the reports she had dementia for the past decade or so.
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Post by All34LOL on Sept 29, 2023 18:30:40 GMT
Feinstein is the PRIME example of why term limits are needed. Politicians dying in office of old age instead of retiring is a disgrace. I don't care which party does it. I agree with this mostly.but term limits won’t prevent how stupid our leaders are. It just means will get new stupid ones sooner. The older I get the less I’m cariing though. Carlin was right years ago, we bitch about our politicians here in the US but honestly this is really best we can do. Our leaders come form American schools, American churchs, American businesses. In short products of us the public. And we all can agree the public sucks. Therefore our leaders are always going to suck because they are a product how much we suck. I’m rooting for covid, I’m rooting for global warming, I’m rooting for our own hubris to destroy us. We are what’s wrong. Yes I’d be a great supervillain.
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Post by c on Sept 29, 2023 18:46:05 GMT
I do not support term limits, but I do support age limits. There is no reason IMO for someone in their 80's to be representing us. When they were young adults was 50 years ago, and many are completely out of touch with the reality of everyday life for normal people. Frankly I would be willing to lower this to 70 even with a cog evaluations at 65 annually.
True reform would start though at killing Citizen's United and banning lobbying. Money in politics on both sides is a serious issue and why the US is the way it is really. The people have no representations, only those that special interests pick for us. On both sides people bitch about extremism of the other party, but you need to go extreme if you want your interests represented because the other side is going extreme and meeting in the middle you need to balance extremities. Kill the cash, you will see moderates most likely take over with a small group of conservatives and a small group of progressives like every other country. And a moderate base, despite my personal feelings, is good for most countries as it leads to gradual change.
And yeah since I have no kids, personally, the world can burn for all I care, just hoping it occurs 15 to 20 down the line since I should be dead by then. Seems this is what people want, short term self-gratification and leaving their children in an unlivable hellscape. I do hope I am alive to see the rise of the second true megacorp. We had one with East India Company but they were cut down by the age of revolutions. The next one will likely be unstoppable due to the economic power that our largest corporations wield.
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Post by c on Sept 29, 2023 20:38:11 GMT
Hey yo. Scott Hall just flipped in the RICO case and took a plea deal.
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Believe now that Trump lost the civil Fraud suit, that every bank and insurance group he dealt with will be filing their own lawsuits. Will also mean immediate repayment of all outstanding loans.
For the fraud suits, looking more and more like Trump will deny all involvement and try to stick liability for most things on Eric who was the person who finalized most of the deals on behalf of his father.
Trial starts Monday and likely first order of business will be to turn Trump Org over to an independent owner who will sell off assets to pay for whatever fines comes from the trial. As noted before, this is civil and a summary judgement was already made against Trump, so he lost. Question now is how much did he and his kids all lose. Suit is against them directly and Trump Org.
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Post by c on Sept 30, 2023 16:58:15 GMT
Kevin to put forth a clean 45 day CR, without Ukraine funding via suspension today. Needs 2/3rds to pass, and he is hoping that most Democrats sign on so he does not need the Freedom Caucus. His group is saying the Freedom Caucus had their conservative CR and did not vote for it, so now they need to do something else. Likely the Senate will be willing to break off Ukraine aid to avert a shutdown in the 11th hour. Given how razor thin margins are, many paths for groups in the senate on both sides or house dems to block this and push the house GOP into finding another solution.
Gaetz after the vote is almost certain to call for a new speaker. If he does we do another prolonged speaker race.
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Post by c on Sept 30, 2023 19:02:27 GMT
CR passed 335-91. All but 1 dem supported it, while 90 GOP members opposed it. Senate plans to pass it.
In retaliation rumors are circling Gaetz will call for a speaker vote and his group will back Jefferies as speaker to embarrass McCarthy completely. This is kind of the only easy path really to remove McCarthy, and MAGA wants blood badly. They are furious that Kevin passed what they see as a Democrat bill.
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Gaetz tried to push a motion vacate but the chair ignored him and adjourned the House. Next session will open with a speaker fight.
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Post by thereallt on Sept 30, 2023 23:03:12 GMT
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Post by c on Sept 30, 2023 23:08:39 GMT
How can you dispute that story either way? Like how would you prove that he assumed otherwise than what he said?
And was what he did worse than committing wire fraud or fucking a child?
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Post by thereallt on Oct 1, 2023 0:03:50 GMT
How can you dispute that story either way? Like how would you prove that he assumed otherwise than what he said? And was what he did worse than committing wire fraud or fucking a child? He said he was in a rush to get to the vote and pulled the fire alarm by mistake, thinking it would open the door. That will be very apparent in the video if that is true. If he is just casually walking up to the fire alarm and pulling it, you know he's full of shit.
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Post by c on Oct 1, 2023 0:28:31 GMT
Motion to expel him already announced. But will need Congress reconvened, which will see Gaetz immediately call for a speaker vote. Any call to expel Jamaal will be met with a call to expel Santos. They do not have the votes to expel Jamaal, but expelling Santos finally is a possibility as he keeps looking worse and worse and an appointment would be far better for everyone. Should Jefferies manage to become speaker after the Gaetz coup, all motions to expel anyone will be tabled.
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Post by c on Oct 1, 2023 19:30:23 GMT
Gaetz said he will primary McCarthy next week and has enough to make sure he will not be speaker anymore.
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To deal with the Gaetz problem, some in the GOP are talking about an expulsion vote for him fucking school children.
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Post by c on Oct 2, 2023 21:45:07 GMT
Trump NY trial underway. Trump and his sons have different legal teams, and different strategies. Trump is calling this a witch hunt set up by Smith and the DOJ, and claiming he is being framed. Eric and Don Jr are just trying to chip away at credibility of the witnesses.
As time goes on, it looks like Trump will claim he has no knowledge of operations of Trump Org because others were in charge during the period examined. Those others are usually Eric. So Eric's lawyer may also have to defend him in cross from Trump's team.
Trump getting hammered by the media for complaining about being denied his right to a trial by jury, after his lawyers did not mark he wanted one on his legal forms.
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Post by c on Oct 2, 2023 23:21:38 GMT
Gaetz did it. He called for a speaker vote.
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Post by c on Oct 3, 2023 4:03:33 GMT
No matter how many mistakes you make this year, you did not fuck up as badly as these guys did.
Group carjacked Rep Henry Cuellar at gunpoint near the capital. House GOP calling for blood even though this was a democrat since it means it can happen to any of them as well. Also they want to push on DC to make a national example out of these carjackers. Which I assume they will gladly do given the nature of the crime and the publicity this case will get.
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Post by c on Oct 3, 2023 18:58:47 GMT
Debate on removing McCarthy started. Freedom caucus claims it is because he did not allow them to do cuts that only 10% of the House supported and that he did not pass a balanced budget bill. Biden would veto both however should it even pass the budget. They are saying they needed to shut everything down to force Biden and the Senate to give into their minority.
No sure where this is going as it sounds like they will end up putting Jefferies into the speaker role. And he will not support their cuts. But not a bad play, put Jefferies into office, claim dems control the chamber over it, then tank his ability to get anything passed because he lacks the majority.
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Post by c on Oct 3, 2023 20:45:43 GMT
And thus ends the speakership of Kevin McCarthy, the weakest speaker in US history, and only person to ever be removed as speaker.
216 - 210 it appears.
Tell us all again how to best govern oh wise GOP?
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Post by All34LOL on Oct 3, 2023 21:01:54 GMT
Fucking clown shoes
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 21:08:29 GMT
Who else they got? I mean they had to revote like 20x just to get him originally LMAO.
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Post by All34LOL on Oct 3, 2023 21:14:01 GMT
Well at least moderates got what the wanted today. Bipartisan cooperation between 208 democrats and 8 republicans. They came to together in the spirit of solving problems. And I’m sure this new alliance and spirit of goodwill will benefit us all.
Seriously how the fuck are we a country?
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Post by c on Oct 3, 2023 21:16:22 GMT
And they already are cutting into each other on social media.
I cannot wait for 100 rounds of Kevin vs Jefferies vs random person Gaetz nominates. Hell one of you could be nominated for a vote. Gonna end up like DDT an a ladder gonna become the next speaker.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 21:17:33 GMT
And they already are cutting into each other on social media. I cannot wait for 100 rounds of Kevin vs Jefferies vs random person Gaetz nominates. Hell one of you could be nominated for a vote. Gonna end up like DDT an a ladder gonna become the next speaker. Long past time we had a Speaker of the PW!!!
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Post by c on Oct 3, 2023 21:21:18 GMT
Believed after a new speaker is elected, McCarthy will push for an expulsion vote for Matt Gaetz due to his interstate sex trafficking and drug use involving a minor. House ethics committee it is believed has a completed report waiting.
All Democrats would be expected to support it, and majority of mainline conservatives can be whipped to support it.
Will end Gaetz's political career when the GOP takes it all to the networks.
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Post by c on Oct 3, 2023 21:37:55 GMT
One thing was made certain today, when it suits them, the GOP will support abortions after 8 and a half months.
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Post by c on Oct 3, 2023 23:05:21 GMT
Kevin will not run for speaker again it is being said. GOP needs to find someone to endure endless votes.
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Post by iNCY on Oct 4, 2023 3:38:01 GMT
This is so crazy because he is 100% correct... BUT... He is trying to prove that the USA economy will go up in flames by playing with matches. I keep talking about the weakness in the US markets, the only thing staving off a sharp correct is a catalyst. Gaetz and his friends may have just provided the catalyst the proves them correct by burning the markets to the ground.
To be clear, everything in the above video is correct but it makes little difference which doctor is right if the patient is dead. To be doubly clear, if the US doesn't fix up it's balance sheet the end of the road is coming up soon.
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