Looks like Trump was bragging about the US nuclear sub program with an Australian billionaire, who then widely shared the information with th Aussie government, journalists and really anyone who would listen. Included how we are able to takedown Russian subs and how many nuclear warheads we arm the subs with.

Now this is bordering on the classical definition of treason. Moreso if you believe the GOP's definition of socialism, being an enemy of America.

abcnews.go.com/US/after-white-house-trump-allegedly-discussed-potentially-sensitive/story?id=103760456

Interesting, markets responded to the cut in oil production by dropping the price of oil. They are seeing it as demand destruction that will lead decreased driving and to more demand of electric cars, which will further reduce the value of oil. The death spiral pattern means cutting oil production to create a gas price surge at an advantageous time, may not be as effective as the Saudis planned.

Oct 5, 2023 20:24:04 GMT c said:

Trump planning on visiting DC to whip speaker support it seems.

apnews.com/article/trump-speaker-mccarthy-capitol-hill-432f89f6826b2b4f51990ae4b4d293fb

In theory if he is speaker and can impeach Biden and Harris at the same time he becomes president again.

…the article linked has him pushing his support behind Jordan, not himself.

Trump will not be Speaker, he won’t have the support and nobody serious is actively pushing it. I know you’ve been saying he will be for a year, but it isn’t going to happen.

Read the first line - "Updated 1:16 AM EDT, October 6, 2023"

Trump endorsed Jordan last night. Prior to that MAGA House GOP was looking into voting him as speaker, than at some point, tempore speaker. Trump was open to becoming tempore speaker, since he could not be speaker due to house rules anymore, then flipped to Jordan late in the day.

A few links for the drama yesterday, but every major news group ran a story about Trump as potentially the next speaker.

www.politico.com/news/2023/10/06/trump-jim-jordan-house-speaker-endorsements-00120320
thehill.com/homenews/house/4241148-trump-says-he-would-temporarily-be-speaker-if-necessary/
www.axios.com/2023/10/05/trump-speaker-of-the-house-capitol-visit

Good time as well to remind remind everyone once again, I am not the liberal media itself. I do not write these various articles and submit them to different sites under dozens of names.

Oct 6, 2023 14:21:14 GMT c said:

Read the first line - "Updated 1:16 AM EDT, October 6, 2023"

Trump endorsed Jordan last night. Prior to that MAGA House GOP was looking into voting him as speaker, than at some point, tempore speaker. Trump was open to becoming tempore speaker, since he could not be speaker due to house rules anymore, then flipped to Jordan late in the day.

A few links for the drama yesterday, but every major news group ran a story about Trump as potentially the next speaker.

www.politico.com/news/2023/10/06/trump-jim-jordan-house-speaker-endorsements-00120320
thehill.com/homenews/house/4241148-trump-says-he-would-temporarily-be-speaker-if-necessary/
www.axios.com/2023/10/05/trump-speaker-of-the-house-capitol-visit

Good time as well to remind remind everyone once again, I am not the liberal media itself. I do not write these various articles and submit them to different sites under dozens of names.

You just read what they say and exaggerate them for liberal Reddit.

Trump saying he would be open to being speaker or a MAGA guy or three saying they’ll nominate him is significantly different than “Trump is headed to DC to whip votes for himself as speaker.” No source said that, it was all you or some shitty opinion site that exaggerates it for you. This is the second time in as many days you r sent me down a rabbit hole of “wow is there really this big movement that’s going to make Trump speaker?” and no. Nobody serious thought it was likely. An idiot or two in the freedom caucus maybe, Hannity maybe, but nobody else put real stock into it.

It was reported midday yesterday in that AP article prior to the edit that Trump was heading to DC to talk to people prior to the speaker vote, after he said he was open to being speaker, with the expectation it was to raise support for him becoming speaker. Once he found out he would be excluded from the meetings on nominating a speaker, and was advised it was a bad idea, he changed his mind and moved to a Jordan endorsement.

It is now believed his DC trip is cancelled because he is no longer interested in becoming speaker.

Could find the same stuff in those the articles posted and not edited before he endorsed Jordan. Fuck most late night shows covered this shit.

Hell had people publicly saying they were going to nominate Trump, and only vote for Trump, and Trump publicly talking about being a tempore speaker to the media, but somehow this was all me making up a story because you disagree with it? Every media group covered the possibility of a Trump speakership, left, right and center, clearly they but some stock into it.

Got a problem with this, take it up with them.

The era of finding out has started.

Mike Lindell's lawyers asked to quit his defense citing he can no longer afford to pay them for their legal services.

Rudy Giuliani's Florida condo placed under an IRS lien because he cannot afford to pay his taxes due to his legal fees.  He hit 500k now in back taxes.

Trump cancelling lawsuits as his legal bills are mounting skyhigh and his less experienced lawyers make grave errors, like forgetting to request a trial by jury in the NYC fraud case.  Believed most of the campaign cash he is raising now is funneled directly to his legal bills and personal expenses.

Rest of Trump former legal team are looking at plea deals where they either admit their role in trying to steal the election in Georgia or face possibly jail time. Nearly all of the lawyers struggle to find work after working for Trump, and took great losses after Trump refused to pay them or reimburse them for costs.

God bless America.

Good breakdown on how bad Trump is doing in NY. What is being said is the corporate death penalty Trump Org got is worse than bankruptcy. Appeals courts will hear the case of killing Trump Org but Trump was find liable for fraud already with Trump U, and this case shows now it is pattern of fraud, which is all that is needed to nuke Trump Org. Given he grossly lied about square footage of his own apartment, almost impossible to defend against.

What is worse, is they continued to do shady shit with a corporate monitor in place, who then reported it back to the court.

The biggest thing of note, is corporations that own property, that cease to be corporations, no longer own said property, and they all can be auctioned to first pay off all of his creditors.  There is a chance too the Trump brand may be also be sellable which would mean Trump could not profit from the Trump brand itself.  

Co defendant in the Santos case flipped, so new charges filed. 23 counts, 7 counts of felony wire fraud.

“As alleged, Santos is charged with stealing people’s identities and making charges on his own donors’ credit cards without their authorization, lying to the FEC and, by extension, the public about the financial state of his campaign,”

apnews.com/article/george-santos-credit-card-fraud-f723e69a777b02a2e6b87595f45c21ce

The farce of Trump's trials is over. DC judge scolded his attorneys and reminded them that Trump is on pretrial release for felonies and should he continue to act the way he does he will treated just like every other pretrial felon that refuses to follow the conditions of release.

Gag order went down. Trump posts about Smith, the DC court, or any of the witnesses, he will risk seeing his pretrial release cancelled. He was reminded also that felons do not get a get out of jail free card merely for running for political office.

He was also reminded the trial will start in 6 months time, and no delays should be expected.

His NYC tactics are to needle the judge as much as possible to overturn the case in appeals, and to stall for as long as possible so he can use this case to push back all others and claim he cannot take part in any other cases because he needs to be in NYC, whether he attends the hearings or not. NYC said the case can go on with or with him present.

Case is two weeks in, and a week behind schedule due to the glacier pace of cross examination.  

The House is in session.

Unsure how many of the GOP are missing but expected Jim can lose 4 votes max to become speaker.

If he loses House will likely bang back out of session.  It is not believed he has the votes.

And Jordan lost the first vote.  He lost 20 gop votes, more than Kevin did.

And House back to recess.  

Another day, another speaker vote. Jim said to not have the votes. Some want to make McHenry a fully powered speaker until the rest of the GOP get their shit together.

Heart of the fight right now is the moderates will not elect a freedom caucus member as speaker, and freedom caucus will only elect a freedom caucus member. Both of course blame democrats for their problems as they both claim democrats should bail them out. Dems are fine voting Jefferies and should enough GOP members stop showing up Jefferies will get elected that way.

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Jordan lost again.  By a larger margin than yesterday.

Are they just gonna revote until he wins like before?

No. Jordan does not have the support Kevin does. There is a block of never Jim conservatives that make it literally impossible for him to become speaker without Dems.

HOLY SHIT MASSIVE INSURRECTION HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

JEWS ARE SITTING IN THE CAPITAL!!!

GOP calling this a far more destructive event than Jan 6th and demand immediate investigations both in Congress and from the DOJ to investigation how these Jewish Hamas Antifa members, Ishatifa, were allowed into the capital.

Worth noting no one was killed, nor was property destroyed or stolen and orders from police are being complied with. But this is still a far, far worse event than when Jan 6th people brutally beat cops. JEWS ARE SITTING IN CAPITAL!!! JEWS!!! You know how hard it will be to get the Jew off before the speaker vote tomorrow?

opps...

Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks reporting after changing her votes against Jordan she received death threats.

Insurrection is now over. The Capital for the time being will be on lockdown with a single down being used for the public only. Roads to the capital will remain shutdown.

No fatalities or injuries have been reported, not any destruction of property, unless you count Jews sitting on the floor and getting their Jewness on it damage.

About 300 arrested for unauthorized protesting in the capital. Unlikely the DA will uphold any of these charges tomorrow given the protest was a seated protest after hours. Very unlikely they would get convictions via unlawful conduct in court, and there is really nothing to down plea to.

Tlalib certainly picked her spot well. It there were a proper speaker in the House right now she would likely be expelled from Congress. As it is right now, it will likely blow over

If they expelled her over Santos it would backfire horribly. And she would just get re-elected again for next term.

Final tally will be three people getting serious charges for brawling with the cops and the rest likely getting them dismissed. Once they throw hands DA will likely keep the charges in place to stack them for a plea bargain.

The fact the GOP is calling this an insurrection is insanely laughable. As are calls to investigate it Jan 6th style.

Jordan to get a vote in the morning it appears still but be will be down 25 to 40 now. Some thinking that the GOP may not be able to elect a speaker until after the election, and will empower McHenry instead so they can play their games for fundraising while actually having real votes on other issues.

Kraken just pled guilty to trying to subvert the Georgia election. Likely is flipping on Trump.

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Appears no one has the votes for speaker and the GOP plans to block McHenry from getting powers.

Also Republicans voting against Jordan are having Republicans send them and their families death threats.  Unlike when republicans send democrats death threats, NOW this is serious and Republican lawmakers need personal security.  Democrats getting death threats are still not a big deal and just people overreacting.  

Hilarious news from the speaker fight today. Lawmakers are starting to complain that they had to work the last six weeks straight at the capital since there is no speaker and had to stay local. Having to be ready to be on the jobsite a step too far for the GOP.

Some GOP members are in casual clothes today and if there are multiple votes are expected to leave and just let whoever is left figure things out regardless of the outcome.

Jordan plans right now to McCarthy this and do nonstop votes until he wins. Except he is losing votes each round. His supporters are threatening the families of the holdouts which makes him unelectable though as those supporters removed from do not like Jordan to never Jordan.

I think we may have another flipper.

Kenneth Chesebro just pleaded guilty in the Georgia voter subversion case.

Yup he just flipped. Will also likely be added to the DC case. Now the early RICO people both flipped, they will try to flip selected members of the rest of the defendants.

Not shocking that almost no one will go to jail for Trump.

Oct 19, 2023 3:55:46 GMT thereallt said:

Tlalib certainly picked her spot well. It there were a proper speaker in the House right now she would likely be expelled from Congress. As it is right now, it will likely blow over

That’s probably a little over dramatic. Committee assignments stripped, a censure, maybe, but I’d that will expel you from Congress we would need a line of people to walk out the door.

Jenna Elis flipped now in Georgia case. Looks like the whole Kraken team will be testifying against Trump.

Trump claiming this group was never his lawyers on social media, which means his legal team is in for some work, as they will need to convince a judge that he is not truthful when he said they never were his lawyers to make the argument for attorney client privilege.   They will also need to make a claim that Trump was truthful in other social media posts, as he will likely use a truth defense for believing there was real fraud.

Emmers nominated for speaker via secret ballet tonight, only to immediate withdraw his name. Freedom caucus says they will not vote for anyone who voted to certify the 2020 election and only will back people who believe Trump won.

Seems as soon as people suggest a name they remove themselves from the race saying they do not want the position and endorse someone else.

Current pool is:

Byron Donalds (Fla.)
Chuck Fleischmann (Tenn.)
Mark Green (Tenn.)
Mike Johnson (La.)
Roger Williams (Texas)

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Also revealed that Meadows was granted immunity in the DC Trump case and met several times with Smith. Looking like he will be the star witness against Trump. He will testify that he personally told Trump he lost the election and there was no voter fraud, and that Trump understood he lost the election.  About half a dozen other staff for Trump will testify to the same.

Can't wait for Trump to claim he does not know Meadows.

Mike Johnson will be the next speaker of the House after the GOP got their shit together enough to vote for someone.  Whether he can keep it or not remains to be seen.

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Bannon has 10 minute next week to make a case for why he should not go to jail for 4 months for defying his Congressional subpoena. He managed to delay this now for over a year. His fraud case for fundraising for the border wall starts in May. Trump pardoned him for the federal charge, but he was charged in NY as well. Likely the others involved in the fraud will testify against him.