Dec 8, 2023 6:12:59 GMT c said:

Well Hunter is fucked. Serious of charges against him for not paying his taxes. Brutal court filing saying he had money for drugs, escorts and exotic cars but not his taxes. Moreso after he got sober he still did not pay them. Also claim to fuel his lifestyle he pulled cash from his company, which also subverted proper taxation.

While it seems these would be minor things and he could just pay it back, he could get 27 years for this.

Biden will defend him because he is his son, but I expect few democrats to fight to him. He dug his own grave here and had years to remedy this in a manner that would have forgave him.

thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4349018-hunter-biden-indicted-on-tax-charges/

I have read several estimates of 3-5yrs jail time.

He is likely to get house arrest, or low security country club prison. The rich and powerful in the US do not go to real people prisons. I would not be shocked to see him sentenced to no time, but he really should given how easy it was to avoid a suit like this.

Talk now that after successfully expelling Santos, they may try for Gaetz. A lot are still pissed he pushed out McCarthy and he is despised by many for his drug use and love for underage girls. Ethics panel is believed to be starting a real investigation into him finally.

www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/07/matt-gaetz-house-republicans-whisper-expelling-george-santos/71840867007/

Can Biden pardon him? >_>

He could but wont. Unlike the right, the left is not a cult and would rather see the courts deal with this. But Biden absolutely has the power right now to kill the charges with a pardon.

Whelp it looks like there may be only one option left for Hunter. With tax evasions, accusations of sex and drug abuse and mounting charges there is no other choice. He is gonna have to declare is running for president on the Republican ticket. Then they cannot investigate him in congress or move forward a trial due to election interference. Could be the only one who can beat Trump too running on the government is coming to take your guns like they took mine ticket <.<

Now the name on the contract does say Biden...

We are sicks of all these boomers in office, it is time for a new generation to lead!!!

YOUR NOT THE BOSS OF ME DAD!!!

Hunter's lawyer says they will present evidence the tax bills were paid in 2021, with penalty and interest.  Case getting weird now.  

Salon with a hilarious article about how MAGA parents are getting upset their kids moving away.

www.salon.com/2023/12/11/maga-women-want-a-hallmark-home-for-the-holidays-fantasy-but-their-votes-run-their-kids-off/

Time for Giuliani to pay up!

The jury awarded the two election workers from Georgia, who were defamed by Giuliani, which led to verbal assault, lost jobs, and death threats, a total of $148 million.

Like most rich people, paying court fines is merely a suggestion. Jordan Belfort still owes most of his settlement from from 2003. Alex Jones has not paid out his fines, Trump not paying his fines, Sacklers paid almost none of the settlements against them. Just the way the American legal system was designed.

Standoff now between Congressional Democrats and Supreme Court. Democrats demanding Thomas remove himself from the case about Trump immunity does to ties his wife had to Jan 6th. Claiming the new ethics code will be utterly meaningless is they do not follow it this soon after passing it. Senate dems are pushing to reopen talks about drafting a formal code of conduct for the Supreme Court. Should the constitutional nature come into play, then it will be to receive congressional funding for their offices, something the constitution does not guarantee to the court justices that is granted by congress.

Also revealed before Thomas started to get "gifts" from wealthy donors he was heavily in debt and considering retiring.

The Colorado Supreme Court has officially disqualified Trump from the GOP Primary ballot.

Dec 19, 2023 23:15:18 GMT CM Punk'd said:

The Colorado Supreme Court has officially disqualified Trump from the GOP Primary ballot.

I can’t imagine that will hold up, nor should it. The private political party should be able to choose their nominee.

I'm not going to say the same necessarily about the actual election ballot, though I think there’s a lack of due process involved in saying he did or didn’t incite an insurrection. Generally I think federal elections need to be under federal control, but so long as they’re controlled by states rules, allowing someone on the ballot does seem to be a state decision. I’m sure SCOTUS will disagree with that too though.

Last time the Democratic Party did this was to Abraham Lincoln, because the freedom of slaves was bad.

The following year, the Civil War happened.

Think about who’s side you’re really on.

Democrats are communists. Period.

Dec 20, 2023 16:19:31 GMT mikec said:

Dec 19, 2023 23:15:18 GMT CM Punk'd said:

The Colorado Supreme Court has officially disqualified Trump from the GOP Primary ballot.

I can’t imagine that will hold up, nor should it. The private political party should be able to choose their nominee.

I'm not going to say the same necessarily about the actual election ballot, though I think there’s a lack of due process involved in saying he did or didn’t incite an insurrection. Generally I think federal elections need to be under federal control, but so long as they’re controlled by states rules, allowing someone on the ballot does seem to be a state decision. I’m sure SCOTUS will disagree with that too though.

The Atlantic has a lot of articles about this subject this week. If you’re interested but can’t get past the paywall, I can post them here.

Learned The Atlantic allows me to gift articles for two weeks. This one made an interesting case - the dissents are comically weak.

www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/dont-read-the-colorado-ruling-read-the-dissents/676920/?gift=9VObnlryKbWs4KZt5U9QEnK-4V_bjt66td-Y-kKaKO0&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

I'm not American, but I can't understand taking someone off the ballot for something they are yet to be found guilty of in a court of law.

It seems that much of the mindset is that everything is okay when you're literally fighting Hitler.

I still don't understand January 6 being an insurrection, the people were unarmed and left of their own accord, dickheads and rednecks for sure, but hardly a coup.

Dec 21, 2023 23:50:38 GMT iNCY said:

I'm not American, but I can't understand taking someone off the ballot for something they are yet to be found guilty of in a court of law.

It seems that much of the mindset is that everything is okay when you're literally fighting Hitler.

I still don't understand January 6 being an insurrection, the people were unarmed and left of their own accord, dickheads and rednecks for sure, but hardly a coup.

You mean the unarmed people who beat and killed police officers and were trying to stop the legal election process? What exactly what would they have needed to do for you to qualify it as an insurrection?

I think there’s a distinction to be made - Trump is not banned from the CO ballot. He is not eligible to be President because he doesn’t fulfill one of the requirements to be eligible for the office. To be eligible for the Presidency you must: be 35 or older, a natural born US citizen, and not engaged in or supported an insurrection. None of those things require a conviction to be true. None of the Confederates needed to be convicted to be disqualified. Neither does anyone else.

Dec 22, 2023 0:29:43 GMT Gyro LC said:

Dec 21, 2023 23:50:38 GMT iNCY said:

I'm not American, but I can't understand taking someone off the ballot for something they are yet to be found guilty of in a court of law.

It seems that much of the mindset is that everything is okay when you're literally fighting Hitler.

I still don't understand January 6 being an insurrection, the people were unarmed and left of their own accord, dickheads and rednecks for sure, but hardly a coup.

You mean the unarmed people who beat and killed police officers and were trying to stop the legal election process? What exactly what would they have needed to do for you to qualify it as an insurrection?

I think there’s a distinction to be made - Trump is not banned from the CO ballot. He is not eligible to be President because he doesn’t fulfill one of the requirements to be eligible for the office. To be eligible for the Presidency you must: be 35 or older, a natural born US citizen, and not engaged in or supported an insurrection. None of those things require a conviction to be true. None of the Confederates needed to be convicted to be disqualified. Neither does anyone else.

They didn't kill anyone, this is the problem with the media narrative, very little truth involved.... on all sides.
The whole it's worse than September 11 bit is so dumb

Dec 22, 2023 1:04:00 GMT iNCY said:

Dec 22, 2023 0:29:43 GMT Gyro LC said:

You mean the unarmed people who beat and killed police officers and were trying to stop the legal election process? What exactly what would they have needed to do for you to qualify it as an insurrection?

I think there’s a distinction to be made - Trump is not banned from the CO ballot. He is not eligible to be President because he doesn’t fulfill one of the requirements to be eligible for the office. To be eligible for the Presidency you must: be 35 or older, a natural born US citizen, and not engaged in or supported an insurrection. None of those things require a conviction to be true. None of the Confederates needed to be convicted to be disqualified. Neither does anyone else.

They didn't kill anyone, this is the problem with the media narrative, very little truth involved.... on all sides.
The whole it's worse than September 11 bit is so dumb

Ok put that to the side. You didn’t answer my question as to what would rise to an insurrection in your opinion.

It was everything it's being accused of being.

It was an absolute embarrassment for The United States, and despite the best argument to suggest Trump did nothing wrong - Trump is ultimately responsible, maybe not for leading the charge, but for the years of rhetoric and vitriol, including leading up to the actual event that gave people the motivation to think something of this nature was ok. Particularly the violence.

It was an as fair and as balanced election as we know. Conspiracy theories, shadow governments and rigged elections.. this is dystopian science fiction stuff. But because a madman that shouldn't have been there in the first place was given a platform and he used that platform to lean into and put weight behind these ridiculous notions, it allowed for a climate of chaos.

Do I think Biden or Clinton would be any better of a President.. no. Do I think they're both scumbags.. yes. But I doubt there would have been scenes like January 6 if anyone else was contending or defending.

Trump as President shows the United States needs/wants a disruptor as a break away from all of these career politicians and tacticians. But it also highlights where the line is on allowing an outsider into the mix. It can't be anyone, for Christ's sake.

Dec 21, 2023 19:49:16 GMT Gyro LC said:

Learned The Atlantic allows me to gift articles for two weeks. This one made an interesting case - the dissents are comically weak.

www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/dont-read-the-colorado-ruling-read-the-dissents/676920/?gift=9VObnlryKbWs4KZt5U9QEnK-4V_bjt66td-Y-kKaKO0&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

I have a hard time taking anything from George Conway as objective given that he’s essentially made a media career out of saying Donald Trump shouldn’t be President, but it was a good read and the point that the Secretary of State gets to determine if you’re Constitutionally eligible is interesting (though I think the argument that Congress needs to make it enforceable makes sense to me, maybe not in Constitutional law but helps my opinion that states shouldn’t be deciding who is allowed to be on a ballot for President) I’ll have to try to read the dissents soon to see if they follow the general script he laid out.

Love iNCY playing the “they were just dumb rednecks that came and went” card. True to the Tucker talking points. I hope he tells us about how the people beating on cops were CIA and Antifa soon.

I think the thugs that assaulted police should face the full weight of the law, I could not be more unequivocal about that.

By the Oxford dictionary an insurrection is:

"a situation in which a large group of people try to take political control of their own country with violence synonym uprising an armed insurrection against the regime."


I could call it a riot or trespassing but I don't see it as an insurrection. It's certainly no 911 of our generation or whatever.

I'm not pro Trump either, of all the candidates currently, I like Vivek.

January 6th is absolutely not worse than the BLM riots that you can just as easily say were instigated by Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and the left politicians. Yall bugging as usual. Hope yall learn Chinese soon.

It’s not a case of if they were worse or not - they were not insurrections against the federal government.

This article interviews a leading Constitution law scholar and former judge who says that the CO decision is air tight and “unassailable.” He implies that if the U.S. Supreme Court overturns it they will have done so for political reasons, not based on the law. www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/21/luttig-14th-amendment-trump-00132792

Dec 22, 2023 5:39:24 GMT Gyro LC said:

It’s not a case of if they were worse or not - they were not insurrections against the federal government.

This article interviews a leading Constitution law scholar and former judge who says that the CO decision is air tight and “unassailable.” He implies that if the U.S. Supreme Court overturns it they will have done so for political reasons, not based on the law. www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/12/21/luttig-14th-amendment-trump-00132792

I’m sure his opinions not biased.



Also “insurrection” bro really? It was pure terrorism. More people got hurt/killed during the BLM riots then January 6th. Yall being duped into thinking Nancy Pelosi is more important than small business owners. I’m more inclined to believe it was an inside job then to listen to a law scholar/former judge in this presidency.

Now Watergate does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you? (tell the truth)
~~~🎶