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Post by UT on May 5, 2020 2:09:18 GMT
There's no need to shit on Kit just to polish Dottie's star. Kit is a fucking jerk. She wouldn’t have been in the league without Dottie. True story.
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Post by thereallt on May 5, 2020 3:29:04 GMT
There's no need to shit on Kit just to polish Dottie's star. Kit is a fucking jerk. She wouldn’t have been in the league without Dottie. True story. Dottie also would never bothered playing if it wasn't for Kit. So no Kit and Dottie's star never shines. True story.
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Post by UT on May 5, 2020 16:29:47 GMT
Kit is a fucking jerk. She wouldn’t have been in the league without Dottie. True story. Dottie also would never bothered playing if it wasn't for Kit. So no Kit and Dottie's star never shines. True story. No she played because it was Kitt's dream , even though Dottie was the superior sister. And Kit was bratty , selfish and unappreciateive. She was like Antonio Brown in the 20's. Kit deserves no good words.
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Post by 🤯 on May 5, 2020 16:40:41 GMT
Dottie also would never bothered playing if it wasn't for Kit. So no Kit and Dottie's star never shines. True story. No she played because it was Kitt's dream , even though Dottie was the superior sister. And Kit was bratty , selfish and unappreciateive. She was like Antonio Brown in the 20's. Kit deserves no good words. Holy shit, that's a strong anti-Kit stance! What did she do to you? Personally, I mean?
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Post by UT on May 5, 2020 16:41:13 GMT
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Post by UT on May 5, 2020 16:44:02 GMT
No she played because it was Kitt's dream , even though Dottie was the superior sister. And Kit was bratty , selfish and unappreciateive. She was like Antonio Brown in the 20's. Kit deserves no good words. Holy shit, that's a strong anti-Kit stance! What did she do to you? Personally, I mean? Shes honestly one of my least favorite movie characters ever , I mean Dottie went to play baseball out of pity for Kit who was going nowhere and Kit never once appreciated it or showed a bit of gratitude. Instead she acted like a child , threw temper tantrums and lashed out at Dottie out of pure jealousy and only jealousy. And it's implied that she then didn't talk to Dottie for what? 40-50 years?
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Post by 🤯 on May 5, 2020 16:57:50 GMT
Holy shit, that's a strong anti-Kit stance! What did she do to you? Personally, I mean? Shes honestly one of my least favorite movie characters ever , I mean Dottie went to play baseball out of pity for Kit who was going nowhere and Kit never once appreciated it or showed a bit of gratitude. Instead she acted like a child , threw temper tantrums and lashed out at Dottie out of pure jealousy and only jealousy. And it's implied that she then didn't talk to Dottie for what? 40-50 years? Well, shit. When you lay it all out like that... I guess Kit could've handled herself a little bit better after all.
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Post by Shootist on May 5, 2020 18:45:11 GMT
I had Crash at 10, he was in a very similar position as Dottie as the mentor catcher to a hot shot pitcher. Only this time the roles reversed as Crash became the jealous of Nuke (Tim Robbins) once he made the big leagues. Crash was a more demonstrative character than Dot and had some good one liners so he got the last spot.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 19:28:34 GMT
I had Crash at 10, he was in a very similar position as Dottie as the mentor catcher to a hot shot pitcher. Only this time the roles reversed as Crash became the jealous of Nuke (Tim Robbins) once he made the big leagues. Crash was a more demonstrative character than Dot and had some good one liners so he got the last spot. I had Crash at #4. He's a great character. I wouldn't say Crash was jealous of Nuke, Nuke had more talent, he was younger and had his entire career ahead of him, Crash saw the writing on the wall. All he ever wanted to do was play baseball back in the show, now Nuke was getting his shot, more than likely before he was ready and it got to him. Crash was at his crossroads in life, personally and professionally. The first of Kevin Costner's baseball trilogy. Nuke is based on a real life minor league pitcher, Steve Dalkowski. His fastball averaged 100 mph and they say he topped out at 110 mph, problem was he was extremely wild. In one season he struck out 262 in 170 innings, but also walked 262.
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Post by thereallt on May 5, 2020 21:01:57 GMT
Crash just barely missed my list. He was easily the best part of Bull Durham. Tim Robbins on the other hand was completely unconvincing as a star pitcher.
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Post by Baker on May 5, 2020 22:48:45 GMT
Didn't vote for Crash since I've never actually seen Bull Durham from start to finish. Which is weird because I was a baseball fan who loved Kevin Costner as a youngster and definitely would have had time for Tim Robbins after Shawshawnk.
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Post by UT on May 7, 2020 16:42:12 GMT
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Post by 🤯 on May 7, 2020 17:31:53 GMT
Robert Redford is so goddamn handsome.
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Post by Shootist on May 7, 2020 18:15:09 GMT
I really thought that Roy Hobbs was a shoe in for at least top 5. I guess there are more people like me who have never seen the Natural to fairly rate him.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 18:39:20 GMT
I had Roy Hobbs at #5. Very good movie, I'm a big fan of the book. The best fictional baseball player, not named Steve Nebraska. My #1 & 2 are shoo-ins...I'm pretty sure. My #3 is a toss up, thinking probably not. #6 may have a shot, but I highly doubt 7 & 8. Hobbs is the better player, but Crash Davis is in the better movie ---hot take---
1. 2. 3. 4. Crash Davis
5. Roy Hobbs
6. 7. 8. 9. Dottie Hinson
10. The Hanson Brothers
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Post by Baker on May 8, 2020 1:02:51 GMT
Roy Hobbs was my #1 with a bullet. The Natural was one of my favorite movies growing up. I saw it even more times than The Shawshank Redemption. It is strongly implied that Roy Hobbs had the "natural" talent to be both the greatest pitcher and the greatest hitter who ever lived.
As a teenager he strikes out The Whammer, who is basically a Babe Ruth stand in, on three pitches. A tryout with the Chicago Cubs is set to follow. Alas, tragedy strikes that very same night when he is shot by a mysterious woman who turns out to be a serial killer with the odd m.o. of targeting the world's greatest athletes. This puts an end to his pitching career.
Fast forward about 17 years. Roy Hobbs is now a 35 year old rookie for the lowly New York Knights who was signed from the bush leagues by a corrupt scout as a joke. Hobbs is now a right fielder. The manager refuses to play him. But he has no choice after their star player dies after running through the wall(!) in pursuit of a fly ball. Hobbs literally knocks the cover off the ball in his very first at bat. We soon discover this is just another day for the GOAT.
Hobbs quickly becomes a fan favorite and great teammate who immediately improves the chemistry of the moribund New York Knights. He hits 4 home runs in a single game. Another mammoth Hobbs home run hits this clock which is like 500 feet away. Aside from one slump, he seems to hit at least home run in every game while also playing stellar defense in right field. The Knights go from worst to first entirely because of Roy Hobbs....
When tragedy strikes. His bullet wound from all those years ago starts acting up. Hobbs misses some games. The Knights naturally (hehe) lose them all.
So the finale is set. New York Knights vs. the hated Pittsburgh Pirates with the National League pennant on the line. Hobbs is still hurt but vows to play. He struggles, going 0 for 3. The Knights mount a rally in the 9th inning. Hobbs is up one last time with 2 outs and the winning runs on base. He must face the Pirates star young pitcher, who is suspiciously similar to Roy Hobbs at the start of the movie. This happens....
What a legend! The world's greatest pitcher. The world's greatest hitter. Ideal teammate. Hero to children. Irresistible to women. Incorruptible by gamblers. Originator of Bret Hart's catchphrase. And the greatest fictional athlete of all time.
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Post by UT on May 8, 2020 13:23:48 GMT
Drago didn't make my list , the dude was roided to the gills and I refuse to commend behaviour like that. Either you're a super athlete or you're not - no need to take shortcuts along the way. Also you're only as good as your last fight , and he lost , and shamed his country.
He is a superior trash talker though. 'I Must Break You' is iconic.
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Post by KING KID on May 8, 2020 13:29:20 GMT
Ivan Drago was my #1! Dude was a machine and the best villain in a sports movie EVER. Quotable up the ass. I MEAN COME ON! Brock Lesnar before Brock Lesnar.
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Post by 🤯 on May 8, 2020 13:54:56 GMT
Ivan Drago was my #1! Dude was a machine and the best villain in a sports movie EVER. Quotable up the ass. I MEAN COME ON! Brock Lesnar before Brock Lesnar. Add Lesnar vs. Drago to my list of Lesnar dream matches.
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Post by Baker on May 8, 2020 16:13:43 GMT
KING KID gets it. Drago was my #3 for his trash talk and general badassery.
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Post by thereallt on May 8, 2020 16:48:27 GMT
Clubber Lang>>>>Ivan Drago
A.He actually BEAT Rocky
B.He never used steroids
C. Just as quotable if not more so
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Post by UT on May 8, 2020 17:11:47 GMT
Clubber Lang>>>>Ivan Drago A.He actually BEAT Rocky B.He never used steroids C. Just as quotable if not more so You’re not wrong but he’s not as quotable. Drago has to infamous lines at least. Clubber could talk but I don’t think his lines were nearly as memorable.
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Post by Baker on May 8, 2020 18:07:18 GMT
Clubber Lang>>>>Ivan Drago A.He actually BEAT Rocky B.He never used steroids C. Just as quotable if not more so You're never going to see me say a bad word about Clubber Lang. Rocky III rules. And I had Clubber at a very respectable #5. But killing Apollo > beating Rocky (especially since Rocky won the rematch) in terms of impact.
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Post by Shootist on May 8, 2020 18:33:22 GMT
Drago was my number 5 and I would have put Clubber on my list as well if I wasn't so self-conscious with the Rocky love.
Clubber does have more quotable scenes though. "I'll take you to my apartment and show you a real man.", "dead meat", "prediction: pain", "I pity the fool" which was huge in 80's culture. Clubber gets the nod there but Drago killing Apollo makes him a bigger villain overall.
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Post by UT on May 8, 2020 18:35:18 GMT
Didn’t I pity the fool come from A-Team? I could easily be misremembering. Also not saying they are bad quotes but come on - they aren’t as quoted as Drago.
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Post by UT on May 8, 2020 18:35:51 GMT
Regardless - I’m ashamed that all of you support a steroid abuser ala Drago.
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Post by Baker on May 8, 2020 18:46:13 GMT
Drago was my number 5 and I would have put Clubber on my list as well if I wasn't so self-conscious with the Rocky love. No shame here. My 2-5 was all Rocky characters :lol: and I still had a tough time filling out the bottom of my list. Didn’t I pity the fool come from A-Team? Nope. It's another Mandela Effect situation. Mr. T never once says "I Pity The Fool" on the A Team. His famous catchphrase is from Rocky III.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 19:01:11 GMT
As much as I love Dolph, because he should be a national treasure. I didn't vote for Drago. I didn't vote for Clubber either, but I did vote for Apollo, because in the long run, he's far more important.
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Post by thereallt on May 8, 2020 19:03:21 GMT
Drago was my number 5 and I would have put Clubber on my list as well if I wasn't so self-conscious with the Rocky love. Clubber does have more quotable scenes though. "I'll take you to my apartment and show you a real man.", "dead meat", "prediction: pain", "I pity the fool" which was huge in 80's culture. Clubber gets the nod there but Drago killing Apollo makes him a bigger villain overall. Didn't Clubber make Mickey have a heart attack? That's easily as heelish as killing Apollo. At least Apollo was a trained fighter. Mickey was an old man.
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