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Post by 🤯 on May 27, 2020 13:20:15 GMT
Can't believe this was a Golden Raspberry contender.
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Post by RagnarokMike on May 27, 2020 13:23:14 GMT
Pretty much the same as Meet the Parents, not near as into it as the hype, but a fine film, no complaints.
Uncut Gems I loved, his best dramatic effort by far, I had it at #2, but that could also be a bit of recency bias, though it still wouldn’t be much lower. Fantastic film, counter to the last two, I’m with the hype about on this one.
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Post by KING KID on May 27, 2020 13:28:23 GMT
I had Big Daddy @ #2 right behind CLICK. I loved that movie as a youngster and watched it a million times.
I had Uncut Gems @ #4. Not sure if it was recency bias or whatnot, but the movie was an anxiety filled rollercoaster for me with an unreal ending. Excellent performance by Sandler and deserves the praise it has gotten.
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Post by UT on May 27, 2020 13:28:44 GMT
Big Daddy has shown up enough so I posted two.
Plus I just watched Uncut Gems last night and I'm unsure on what exactly to think about it. I liked it , didn't love it like some seem to. I thought it started really weird and the pace was off and confusing. It gets better as the movie goes along and fits more with the story of the movie but it takes some time to recover from the beginning.
I wouldn't blame anyone for hating this movie , it's everywhere and messy as shit but there is a solid and fun story there. Probably wouldn't have made my Top 10 and I don't know that I'll go back to it for a very long time. #7 seems too high here.
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Post by KING KID on May 27, 2020 13:29:22 GMT
Pretty much the same as Meet the Parents, not near as into it as the hype, but a fine film, no complaints. Uncut Gems I loved, his best dramatic effort by far, I had it at #2, but that could also be a bit of recency bias, though it still wouldn’t be much lower. Fantastic film, counter to the last two, I’m with the hype about on this one. I didn't even read your post before I typed mine. Funny we both mentioned recency bias. I think a rewatch or taking a stepback would give us better confirmation of our placement of the movie.
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Post by RagnarokMike on May 27, 2020 13:33:42 GMT
I think the hectic mess was exactly what it needed to be, as that’s exactly what Howard’s life was. Not sure how you streamline all of those threads and keep the anxiety and tension that build to the climax.
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Post by UT on May 27, 2020 13:55:21 GMT
I think the hectic mess was exactly what it needed to be, as that’s exactly what Howard’s life was. Not sure how you streamline all of those threads and keep the anxiety and tension that build to the climax. I get that , it's like the ending of Goodfellas which also made sense and I do love. They built to it and conditioned the audience though , Uncut Gems just never stops to breath and seems to be erratic for erratic sake and they make some really weird cuts that just throw you out of the movie at times. Especially in the beginning where it almost lost me. The story wasn't tight enough for that kind of editing and pacing.
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Post by 🤯 on May 27, 2020 14:09:12 GMT
Uncut Gems sucked. Meh at best. No wonder he got snubbed.
Credit where credit is due though, I did like the finishing sequence.
Also liked mostly going with lesser known/unknown/first time actors.
That's as nice as I can be about it.
Absolutely should not be above Meet the Parents or Zoolander.
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Post by Big Pete on May 27, 2020 14:11:53 GMT
I was just going to let this thread lie when Uncut Gems got shadow dropped.
Easily the most challenging role of Sandler's career, where he actually has to inhibit a character and doesn't get the luxury of following a well worn character arc. He's just Howie, warts and all, an absolute phony who spends his mornings evading debt collectors and putting on a facade at home with a wife who cannot stand the sight of him. Just about every relationship he's got is irrevocably damaged, but in his heart of hearts, he believes that if he can just hit it big once it'll change everything.
The movie does an excellent job of making the audience feel his anxiety. It's like the entire film is shot in an elevator and Howard has all these different worlds converging in at once to expose him for what he is. If he can just hit it big, it'll all go away and he has so many irons in the fire, one of them has to turn out. Except his insecurities, his frayed relationships everything comes back to bite him. Even when he does try to redeem himself, it's much too late and you get the feeling that his wife has heard that speech at least a dozen times before. She probably believed it the first half a dozen times, but she's well and truly counting down the days now.
I see the ending in a similar way as the Wrestler. Howard knows his days are numbered, if it's not this gamble, it's something else. He's too far gone, he's rotten and while he's got the love of this young woman, she's eventually going to see through him. He only has one way in life and that's how he wins, that's how he becomes the hero of his story, if he wins this bet because he knows people and he knows he's right.
So despite all the warning signs, despite everything else, he puts it all on the line for the thrill. It mostly plays out as expected, it's a thriller movie with his girlfriend staging a massive coup to get to the casino and hide from the goons while it pays off. It's thrilling and for a second he thinks he may have made this all go away like a fairytale, but reality strikes and his brother in law figures out the reality of hiring these goons.
I like how raw it is, I feel like I'm in Fifth and Sixth Avenue and I'm watching this train wreck play out.
My only gripe is that the Safdie brothers released another movie called Good Time two years prior which was very similar and actually superior. It was the movie that got me to really appreciate Robert Pattinson as an actor and I think he's really going to turn heads with Tenent, if he didn't already in Lighthouse.
But yeah, Sandler's best acting performance of all-time in a nice hyper-realistic movie.
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Post by UT on May 27, 2020 14:14:36 GMT
Uncut Gems sucked. Meh at best. No wonder he got snubbed. Credit where credit is due though, I did like the finishing sequence. Also liked mostly going with lesser known/unknown/first time actors. That's as nice as I can be about it. Absolutely should not be above Meet the Parents or Zoolander. I know I got all giddy when I realized that was Idina Menzel playing his wife , I always thought she was younger yet there she was , Elsa was on screen. Also always happy to see Judd Hirsch.
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Post by 🤯 on May 27, 2020 14:18:30 GMT
Uncut Gems sucked. Meh at best. No wonder he got snubbed. Credit where credit is due though, I did like the finishing sequence. Also liked mostly going with lesser known/unknown/first time actors. That's as nice as I can be about it. Absolutely should not be above Meet the Parents or Zoolander. I know I got all giddy when I realized that was Idina Menzel playing his wife , I always thought she was younger yet there she was , Elsa was on screen. Also always happy to see Judd Hirsch. Idina "Adele Dazeem" Menzel, old as she may be, is WAY hotter than Elsa. She was my favorite part of Uncut Gems. Totally bummed she didn't bust dem tiddies out.
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Post by UT on May 27, 2020 14:20:23 GMT
I know I got all giddy when I realized that was Idina Menzel playing his wife , I always thought she was younger yet there she was , Elsa was on screen. Also always happy to see Judd Hirsch. Idina "Adele Dazeem" Menzel, old as she may be, is WAY hotter than Elsa. She was my favorite part of Uncut Gems. Totally bummed she didn't bust dem tiddies out. My favorite part was The Weekend just randomly popping in and fucking his girlfriend. It was kind of dumb but I laughed. And Elsa is great. One of the best princesses Disney produced. And Idina Menzel is great voicing her.
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Post by Baker on May 27, 2020 14:28:08 GMT
Haven't seen either of these. OK, so I might have seen Big Daddy once upon a time. But if so, I remember nothing about it.
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Post by 🤯 on May 27, 2020 14:36:38 GMT
Haven't seen either of these. OK, so I might have seen Big Daddy once upon a time. But if so, I remember nothing about it. It was the poorly promoted sequel to Small Mommy.
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Post by Big Pete on May 27, 2020 15:03:12 GMT
The Weeknd's appearance wasn't random, Julia mentions him in an earlier scene. We're led to believe that Julia is just a flooezy mooching off of Howard, but she's actually pretty perceptive, calling The Weeknd's rise in popularity before he'd hit it big in 2015. She also didn't have sex with him, they did cocaine together, but Julia truly loves Howard which is why she plays along with his daring last gambit.
She's actually an interesting character because ordinarily she'd be the first person to turn against the protaganist in a movie. Of all the characters, she's the diamond in the rough.
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Post by thereallt on May 27, 2020 15:28:43 GMT
Uncut Gems sucked. Meh at best. No wonder he got snubbed. Credit where credit is due though, I did like the finishing sequence. Also liked mostly going with lesser known/unknown/first time actors. That's as nice as I can be about it. Absolutely should not be above Meet the Parents or Zoolander.Adam Sandler could film himself taking a shit and it would still be above Zoolander.
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Post by 🤯 on May 27, 2020 15:32:31 GMT
Uncut Gems sucked. Meh at best. No wonder he got snubbed. Credit where credit is due though, I did like the finishing sequence. Also liked mostly going with lesser known/unknown/first time actors. That's as nice as I can be about it. Absolutely should not be above Meet the Parents or Zoolander.Adam Sandler could film himself taking a shit and it would still be above Zoolander. If you're into Sandler eliminating bodily waste, I presume you were the high vote for Big Daddy considering his golden shower scenes?
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Post by iron maiden on May 27, 2020 15:38:22 GMT
Neither made my list. I know a lot of you love Big Daddy, but it didn't blow the wind up my skirt.
Uncut Gems was interesting. I think I need to rewatch it to get a better feeling about it. I had the same reaction to Training Day. The first time I watched it I didn't know whether I liked it or not. So I watched it a second time and I thought 'this is a great movie'. I think Uncut Gems would be the same, I just haven't made the move to rewatch it yet.
I actually think Sandler is like Robin Williams in that many underestimate him as a serious actor, but when he is, he shows he is more than capable of doing more than just comedy.
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Post by iron maiden on May 27, 2020 15:41:32 GMT
Uncut Gems sucked. Meh at best. No wonder he got snubbed. Credit where credit is due though, I did like the finishing sequence. Also liked mostly going with lesser known/unknown/first time actors. That's as nice as I can be about it. Absolutely should not be above Meet the Parents or Zoolander.Adam Sandler could film himself taking a shit and it would still be above Zoolander. Here we go again.
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Post by 🤯 on May 27, 2020 15:48:19 GMT
Comparing Sandler to Williams is a bit of an over-stretch.
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Post by Emperor on May 27, 2020 16:02:29 GMT
Uncut Gems sounds awfully depressing from Big Pete's review.
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Post by Big Pete on May 27, 2020 16:13:48 GMT
The trailer does a fantastic job of capturing the mood of the movie. I made the Wrestler comparison, which has a lot of similarities, but Uncut Gems doesn't play itself off like an old dog being put out of it's misery.
While we're talking Safdies, Good Time maybe my favourite thriller with an even bigger scumbag than Howie (but with a far more noble goal).
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Post by iron maiden on May 27, 2020 17:25:28 GMT
Comparing Sandler to Williams is a bit of an over-stretch. I said like in that regard. Williams is comic genius and my world is a little less bright without him in it. I wouldn't say the same of Sandler.
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Post by 🤯 on May 27, 2020 17:40:02 GMT
Comparing Sandler to Williams is a bit of an over-stretch. I said like in that regard. Williams is comic genius and my world is a little less bright without him in it. I wouldn't say the same of Sandler. Gotcha, and OK. 100% agree with this, as well as the previous statement based on the clarification. It's weird... I don't hate Adam Sandler at all. Probably like him more than most? But the squash job being executed on Stiller coupled with the hate rain pouring down on Zoolander is making me so mad I'm confusing it for Sandler hate. This countdown has been so weird like that. I swear... If that piece of trash Water Boy makes this overall countdown and Something About Mary doesn't... so help me Like Button.
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Post by UT on May 27, 2020 17:59:06 GMT
The Weeknd's appearance wasn't random, Julia mentions him in an earlier scene. We're led to believe that Julia is just a flooezy mooching off of Howard, but she's actually pretty perceptive, calling The Weeknd's rise in popularity before he'd hit it big in 2015. She also didn't have sex with him, they did cocaine together, but Julia truly loves Howard which is why she plays along with his daring last gambit. She's actually an interesting character because ordinarily she'd be the first person to turn against the protaganist in a movie. Of all the characters, she's the diamond in the rough. I did like her character the most but I can’t say I believe nothing happened.
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Post by Big Pete on May 27, 2020 18:31:21 GMT
They weren't in there that long, something may have been about to happen but it didn't play out.
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If that piece of trash Water Boy makes this overall countdown and Something About Mary doesn't... so help me Like Button. 
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Post by Strobe on May 27, 2020 23:27:09 GMT
It would’ve probably made my list as my second favorite movie with Ben Stiller in it but it would have been close. (Number one though: Cable Guy. Yeah I really don’t like Ben Stiller) Cable Guy is actually great though.
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