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Post by 🤯 on Oct 2, 2022 11:24:43 GMT
Can you believe that's been over for 21 years. The only thing more polarizing than John Cena!
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Post by 🤯 on Oct 19, 2022 11:34:41 GMT
Mabel wasn't THAT bad, and I kinda totally understand the push in 1995.
Also, Adam Bomb/Bryan Clark, who looks like AJ Styles head on Test's body, so should've been a bigger thing. At minimum, he should've had all the same hype Sean O'Haire got at least until Sean O'Haire came along.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2022 11:37:28 GMT
WWE would have been far better if Brock never came back.
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Post by 🤯 on Oct 19, 2022 11:46:40 GMT
WWE would have been far better if Brock never came back. Curious to know... In what ways? More of a spotlight for Dolph Ziggler?
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Post by Big Pete on Oct 19, 2022 11:52:37 GMT
Brock would have been forced to look at his options and join STARDOM to give us that Kairi Sane match we always wanted!
How could anyone disparage our lord during the joyous month of Brocktober?! This is worse than the AEW women's segment you clearly booked @aaron !!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2022 12:36:56 GMT
This is worse than the AEW women's segment you clearly booked Aaron !!! I'll ramble on about Brock later, but I want to know more about this segment! Did Riho beat everyone and win both the women's championships?! Never mind, I saw my other notification!
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Post by Ed on Oct 19, 2022 18:01:45 GMT
Mabel wasn't THAT bad, and I kinda totally understand the push in 1995. Also, Adam Bomb/Bryan Clark looks like AJ Styles' head on Test's body, so should've been a bigger thing. At a minimum, he should've had all the same hype Sean O'Haire got at least until Sean O'Haire came along. Mabel was too huge to be mobile & careless in the ring.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2022 20:02:40 GMT
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Post by Ed on Oct 19, 2022 20:06:59 GMT
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Post by Strobe on Oct 20, 2022 7:42:54 GMT
Mabel wasn't THAT bad, and I kinda totally understand the push in 1995. Despite the size, his look wasn't the best as Mabel. Just atrocious gear for a main eventer. The name Mabel wasn't great either. It sure isn't a King Kong Bundy or Big Van Vader. Could've used a cool nickname as well. While Kamala is great, "The Ugandan Giant/Headhunter" Kamala is better. Probably needed to kick Mo to the curb as well, as even as a lackey he detracted rather than enhanced. Definitely needed to get a manager/sycophant who could talk for him. DiBiase was losing cred so probably not him. Oscar wasn't a great talker or rapper, so it wasn't as if they necessarily should've had him turn heel with Mabel. But if he could've busted out some gangsta rap, rather than the family friendly stuff, that could have given Mabel an edge as a heel, not necessarily main event heel. Obviously Vince would never go for it in 1995 WWF "The Giant Gangsta" isn't great as a nickname. "The Gargantuan Gangsta" is better, but still not ideal. Biggie's "Big Poppa" was released in December 1994. "The Gargantuan Gangsta" Big Poppa Mabel could work for me. Bring in The Gangstas from Smokey Mountain as his new crew, but bill them from New York instead of LA. New Jack in 1995 WWF. Whatever you pick as Big Poppa Mabel's crush finisher, call it "Ready to Die".
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Post by 🤯 on Oct 20, 2022 10:32:30 GMT
Mabel wasn't THAT bad, and I kinda totally understand the push in 1995. Despite the size, his look wasn't the best as Mabel. Just atrocious gear for a main eventer. The name Mabel wasn't great either. It sure isn't a King Kong Bundy or Big Van Vader. Could've used a cool nickname as well. While Kamala is great, "The Ugandan Giant/Headhunter" Kamala is better. Probably needed to kick Mo to the curb as well, as even as a lackey he detracted rather than enhanced. Definitely needed to get a manager/sycophant who could talk for him. DiBiase was losing cred so probably not him. Oscar wasn't a great talker or rapper, so it wasn't as if they necessarily should've had him turn heel with Mabel. But if he could've busted out some gangsta rap, rather than the family friendly stuff, that could have given Mabel an edge as a heel, not necessarily main event heel. Obviously Vince would never go for it in 1995 WWF "The Giant Gangsta" isn't great as a nickname. "The Gargantuan Gangsta" is better, but still not ideal. Biggie's "Big Poppa" was released in December 1994. "The Gargantuan Gangsta" Big Poppa Mabel could work for me. Bring in The Gangstas from Smokey Mountain as his new crew, but bill them from New York instead of LA. New Jack in 1995 WWF. Whatever you pick as Big Poppa Mabel's crush finisher, call it "Ready to Die". I always loved Baker-man's idea of giving Mabel a big Flava Flav-style clock necklace and doing a spin on King Kong Bundy's 5-count pinfall challenge but instead have it be a 5-minute challenge.
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Post by Neo Zeed on Oct 20, 2022 10:56:57 GMT
Mabel wasn't THAT bad, and I kinda totally understand the push in 1995. Despite the size, his look wasn't the best as Mabel. Just atrocious gear for a main eventer. The name Mabel wasn't great either. It sure isn't a King Kong Bundy or Big Van Vader. Could've used a cool nickname as well. While Kamala is great, "The Ugandan Giant/Headhunter" Kamala is better. Probably needed to kick Mo to the curb as well, as even as a lackey he detracted rather than enhanced. Definitely needed to get a manager/sycophant who could talk for him. DiBiase was losing cred so probably not him. Oscar wasn't a great talker or rapper, so it wasn't as if they necessarily should've had him turn heel with Mabel. But if he could've busted out some gangsta rap, rather than the family friendly stuff, that could have given Mabel an edge as a heel, not necessarily main event heel. Obviously Vince would never go for it in 1995 WWF "The Giant Gangsta" isn't great as a nickname. "The Gargantuan Gangsta" is better, but still not ideal. Biggie's "Big Poppa" was released in December 1994. "The Gargantuan Gangsta" Big Poppa Mabel could work for me. Bring in The Gangstas from Smokey Mountain as his new crew, but bill them from New York instead of LA. New Jack in 1995 WWF. Whatever you pick as Big Poppa Mabel's crush finisher, call it "Ready to Die". Maybe we could have got my dream feud of Make A Difference Fatu vs New Jack
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Post by 🤯 on Oct 20, 2022 12:00:51 GMT
Perhaps an even worse taken than my previous one...
If they were gonna bother pushing Mabel at all, they should've gone all in and crowned him WWF Champion at SummerSlam.
Then turn Yokozuna face, and build to a Battle of the Behemoths world title main event at WrestleMania XII between the two. Or maybe even a first-ever triple threat, tossing Vader into the mix.
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Post by Big Pete on Oct 20, 2022 18:53:50 GMT
I like where this is going.
What if, Mable interrupts one of Man Mountain Rock's rip-roaring solos and challenges him to a match: rock vs. rap in the ultimate showdown. After feuding for months, rap comes out on top, only for Man Mountain Rock to form an alliance with Mable - DMC/Aerosmith style.
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Post by Ed on Oct 20, 2022 22:42:22 GMT
I like where this is going. What if, Mable interrupts one of Man Mountain Rock's rip-roaring solos and challenges him to a match: rock vs. rap in the ultimate showdown? After feuding for months, rap comes out on top, only for Man Mountain Rock to ally with Mable - DMC/Aerosmith style. That would have drawn more money than JBL as champion.
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Post by Strobe on Oct 20, 2022 23:13:58 GMT
Maybe we could have got my dream feud of Make A Difference Fatu vs New Jack A series of vignettes where Make a Difference Fatu turns around the lives of some kids before one where some have turned to drugs and some have joined a gang. The leader of the gang, who is selling the drugs, is New Jack. Have it revealed that it was New Jack that shot Fatu back in the day. Could do a match with "work the gunshot scar" psychology! Build to an LA Street Fight out on the street (like the Hollywood Backlot Brawl) with an in-match drive-by attempt! Feud of the Year 1995. The name Big Poppa Mabel emphasises even more how bad of a wrestling name Mabel was. It's an old woman's name. Big Momma Mabel is what Vince would go to after this push. Mabel in drag while Vince yucks it up with his fake corporate laugh on commentary.
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Post by Neo Zeed on Oct 20, 2022 23:23:37 GMT
A drive by shooting in 1995 WWF this would have to bring back Big Bossman for sure Nailz and New Jack vs Bossman and Make A Difference Fatu at Mania XII book it
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Post by NATH45 on Oct 21, 2022 1:55:42 GMT
WWE would have been far better if Brock never came back. WWE would have been far better from 2004-2012 if he never left.
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Post by Baker on Oct 21, 2022 23:58:22 GMT
Kudos on the Mabel chatter, gentlemen. It just kept building and building, getting better and better, before culminating in this dime drawing extravaganza... A drive by shooting in 1995 WWF this would have to bring back Big Bossman for sure Nailz and New Jack vs Bossman and Make A Difference Fatu at Mania XII book it Mabel's stock has risen with me over the past few years thanks to the tireless work of 🤯. He had some cool moves for a 500 pounder. I actually wasn't a King Mabel hater in real time. Indifferent, sure, but not an outright hater. Thought his KOTR win was weird and totally out of left field, but I didn't outright dismiss it right away, opting instead for a 'wait and see' approach. Understood even then why they did it. The 80s WWF I grew up on was all about obese monsters posing a threat to their good guy champions. It didn't work out and Mabel soon disappeared. It wasn't until he vanished that I became a Mabel hater. "He disgraced the good name of KOTR! He was out of mainstream wrestling for 3 years lol What a bum! Then they brought him back. And that was even worse!" Yeah, still not a Viscera guy. Both those Vis runs were the pits imo. Also thanks for reminding me of the King Kong Bundy-meets-"Timekeeper" Mike George gimmick I gave Mabel in my fanfic project. I like to believe it lead to a few additional dimes drawn for the big IYH match with Ahmed Johnson it built to. Of course Strobe is right about Mabel being an awful name for anyone other than an elderly woman. Yet I'll also admit, much like Dolph Ziggler, I just came to accept it over time. Leave it to Vince to find it so nice he'd do it twice. Rosey of Three Minute Warning, anyone? Which reminds me of my friend Boo coming up with the only good 3MW idea ever. He thought the two of them should spend backstage segments arguing over which one was Rosey... 3MW #1: I'm not Rosey! YOU'RE Rosey! 3MW #2: Am not! You are! *3MW come to blows Yeah, we were Three Minute Warning haters. ============= Adam Bomb is another one who grew on me in later years due to recognizing his skillz as an athletic hoss (especially for 93-95) with a good look (in theory). Cared about him even less than Mabel back in the day though. WWF did him no favors by debuting him cold, never putting him in any big feuds, and sticking him with the worst manager around in Harvey Whippleman. He was just an oversized low midcarder. Didn't care for the presentation either. Too Captain Planet villain for my liking with the silly red tongue, goofy goggles, and brightly colored outfit. With a little tweaking he could have been a contender. Instead of the goggles and red tongue have the commentators talk about his rumored sixth toe, or how he's hideously scarred under the beard. Maybe he glows in the dark? Yes, that would be a good idea. Give him some introductory vignettes and a 'creepy' manager. When he turns face say the nuclear exposure gave him super strength and have him slam King Mabel or whoever. Which reminds me....anybody else remember Bomb throwing nerf nuclear bombs to the crowd as a fan favorite? I swear this happened!
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Post by 🤯 on Oct 22, 2022 0:59:00 GMT
Not the "crowd", the *Bomb Squad!
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Post by Baker on Oct 22, 2022 1:10:45 GMT
Not the "crowd", the *Bomb Squad! Tremendous
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Post by 🤯 on Oct 22, 2022 1:14:13 GMT
Not the "crowd", the *Bomb Squad! Tremendous I wish I could take credit, but WWF was pushing that name hard as early as the first-ever In Your House.
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Post by Ed on Oct 22, 2022 20:14:46 GMT
It seems like they never had a plan for Adam Bomb.
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