Aug 26, 2021 21:09:10 GMT 🤯 said:

Diana is fiiiiine.

Confirm it, @ness .

Can confirm, would act as man meat between her and Sally if given opportunity.

Speaking of racism, Brain with the casual racist commentary re: Bulldog's braids.

I'm not saying Diana is ugly but, she isn't fine.

Vince & Brain are far inferior to Vince & Jesse and Brain & Gorilla.

Aug 26, 2021 21:20:36 GMT Ed said:

I'm not saying Diana is ugly but, she isn't fine.

More of a Sharmell guy?

So when we gonna kill Ed ?

Why does a pin result in a pinfall but a submission doesn't result in a submissionfall?

Aug 26, 2021 21:25:39 GMT 🤯 said:

Why does a pin result in a pinfall but a submission doesn't result in a submissionfall?

Probably because pins come after big moves that lead to a "fall" on the mat (slams, drivers, drops, etc.) whereas submissions are less in your face action based so they get less sexy.

Then again I dunno, sounded better before I started typing.

Bret adding a little sling blade action to that plancha. Nice touch! This match is off the chain. Possibly the greatest WWF match in history up to this point.

Aug 26, 2021 21:27:50 GMT @ness said:

Aug 26, 2021 21:25:39 GMT 🤯 said:

Why does a pin result in a pinfall but a submission doesn't result in a submissionfall?

Probably because pins come after big moves that lead to a "fall" on the mat (slams, drivers, drops, etc.) whereas submissions are less in your face action based so they get less sexy.

Then again I dunno, sounded better before I started typing.

Big moves like Mabel's Big Package?

Aug 26, 2021 21:23:41 GMT 🤯 said:

Aug 26, 2021 21:20:36 GMT Ed said:

I'm not saying Diana is ugly but, she isn't fine.

More of a Sharmell guy?

I like sensational Sherri & Sunny the most.

Aug 26, 2021 21:29:12 GMT 🤯 said:

Aug 26, 2021 21:27:50 GMT @ness said:

Probably because pins come after big moves that lead to a "fall" on the mat (slams, drivers, drops, etc.) whereas submissions are less in your face action based so they get less sexy.

Then again I dunno, sounded better before I started typing.

Big moves like Mabel's Big Package?

I think I speak for us all when I say we all wanna submit to the big package.

Aug 26, 2021 21:29:47 GMT Ed said:

Aug 26, 2021 21:23:41 GMT 🤯 said:

More of a Sharmell guy?

I like sensational Sherri & Sunny the most.

For my money probably the best looking lady in the business ever.

I feel like you can really tell Hawk is not happy on the first Superstars post-SummerSlam. Even if it was taped beforehand, Rocco is still already there as an upsetting factor. Feels painfully obvious Legion of Doom isn't long for this world based solely on this outing and Hawk's demeanor.

Gary Jackson looks like the missing little brother link linking Koko B. Ware and Shelton Benjamin.

Also, I didn't realize the Savage-Flair title switchback happened so soon after SummerSlam and that it was kinda treated a lot like the Backlund-Diesel title switch. Full match to be aired at some later point in time on Primetime.

Flair's champagne locker room celebration has me thinking Flair's second WWF world title win totally could've and maybe should've been the impetus for creating a WWF Four Horsemen or at least proto-Evolution. Call them something other than Horsemen to avoid copyright issues.

Flair as the centerpiece world champ. The current reigning, defending representation of the present best in the business.

Heenan as J.J. Dillon/semi-retired Ric Flair, especially once Perfect comes off the injured reserve list.

Razor as the big brute enforcer just begging to be turned babyface eventually because he's too bad ass to root against forever. Batista, Sid... maybe Lex?

Perfect becomes the still-active semi-retired Flair, tagging with Batista Razor just to give them something to do and add more gold to the stable. Or think of them as Arn & Tully if it's less insulting? They knock Natural Disasters off for the belts.

Shawn as the Orton, Windham... maybe Pillman or Sting? Young up-and-comer with a world of promise. Cocky and confident as hell. Reigning secondary champ once he dethrones bloated Bulldog.

Survivor Series establishes the group officially and proves they're a threat to be taken seriously when they clean sweep in the main event against Savage, Bret, Marty Jannetty [as last minute sub for Bulldog], and a last minute sub for Warrior... I dunno... Bob Backlund or maybe returning Bam Bam Bigelow, who turns heel on his teammates.

Then Rumble becomes Flair defending the world title from #1 to outdo his feat from the previous year. Razor, Shawn, Perfect are all in with the mission of helping to ensure Flair wins. He does. Details to be determined.

Everyone is left wondering who can stand up to this group as WrestleMania season commences. Cue the return of Hulk Hogan. He get Hogan/Flair a year later than we would've liked, but arguably in a better setup. Flair has his WWF version of the Horsemen. Hogan has spent some time away to be hopefully missed. Finish is less complicated because Hogan is sticking around at least until King of the Ring.

Nov 22, 2021 13:46:25 GMT 🤯 said:

Flair's champagne locker room celebration has me thinking Flair's second WWF world title win totally could've and maybe should've been the impetus for creating a WWF Four Horsemen or at least proto-Evolution. Call them something other than Horsemen to avoid copyright issues.

Flair as the centerpiece world champ. The current reigning, defending representation of the present best in the business.

Heenan as J.J. Dillon/semi-retired Ric Flair, especially once Perfect comes off the injured reserve list.

Razor as the big brute enforcer just begging to be turned babyface eventually because he's too badass to root against forever. Batista, Sid... maybe Lex?

Perfect becomes the still-active semi-retired Flair, tagging with Batista Razor just to give them something to do and add more gold to the stable. Or think of them as Arn & Tully if it's less insulting? They knock Natural Disasters off for the belts.

Shawn as the Orton, Windham... maybe Pillman or Sting? Young up-and-comer with a world of promise. Cocky and confident as hell. Reigning secondary champ once he dethrones bloated Bulldog.

Survivor Series establishes the group officially and proves they're a threat to be taken seriously when they clean sweep in the main event against Savage, Bret, Marty Jannetty [as a last-minute sub for Bulldog], and a last-minute sub for Warrior... I dunno... Bob Backlund or maybe returning Bam Bam Bigelow, who turns heel on his teammates.

Then Rumble becomes Flair defending the world title from #1 to outdo his feat from the previous year. Razor, Shawn, Perfect are all in with the mission of helping to ensure Flair wins. He does. Details to be determined.

Everyone is left wondering who can stand up to this group as WrestleMania season commences. Cue the return of Hulk Hogan. He get Hogan/Flair a year later than we would've liked, but arguably in a better setup. Flair has his WWF version of the Horsemen. Hogan has spent some time away to be hopefully missed. The finish is less complicated because Hogan is sticking around at least until King of the Ring.

In your scenario, what makes Hulk Hogan take time off?

Nov 22, 2021 20:59:14 GMT Ed said:

Nov 22, 2021 13:46:25 GMT 🤯 said:

Flair's champagne locker room celebration has me thinking Flair's second WWF world title win totally could've and maybe should've been the impetus for creating a WWF Four Horsemen or at least proto-Evolution. Call them something other than Horsemen to avoid copyright issues.

Flair as the centerpiece world champ. The current reigning, defending representation of the present best in the business.

Heenan as J.J. Dillon/semi-retired Ric Flair, especially once Perfect comes off the injured reserve list.

Razor as the big brute enforcer just begging to be turned babyface eventually because he's too badass to root against forever. Batista, Sid... maybe Lex?

Perfect becomes the still-active semi-retired Flair, tagging with Batista Razor just to give them something to do and add more gold to the stable. Or think of them as Arn & Tully if it's less insulting? They knock Natural Disasters off for the belts.

Shawn as the Orton, Windham... maybe Pillman or Sting? Young up-and-comer with a world of promise. Cocky and confident as hell. Reigning secondary champ once he dethrones bloated Bulldog.

Survivor Series establishes the group officially and proves they're a threat to be taken seriously when they clean sweep in the main event against Savage, Bret, Marty Jannetty [as a last-minute sub for Bulldog], and a last-minute sub for Warrior... I dunno... Bob Backlund or maybe returning Bam Bam Bigelow, who turns heel on his teammates.

Then Rumble becomes Flair defending the world title from #1 to outdo his feat from the previous year. Razor, Shawn, Perfect are all in with the mission of helping to ensure Flair wins. He does. Details to be determined.

Everyone is left wondering who can stand up to this group as WrestleMania season commences. Cue the return of Hulk Hogan. He get Hogan/Flair a year later than we would've liked, but arguably in a better setup. Flair has his WWF version of the Horsemen. Hogan has spent some time away to be hopefully missed. The finish is less complicated because Hogan is sticking around at least until King of the Ring.

In your scenario, what makes Hulk Hogan take time off?

Whatever made him take time off IRL from WrestleMania VIII to WrestleMania IX?

I'd love Hogan to be the way he was during the Mr. wonderful & Andre feud for this angle. Yes, Hulk is cartoony but, I feel like those rivalries he was betrayed by his friends. This time, Hulk feels insulted that these rich snobs trying to come into his house trying to run his turf.

Glad this is back. The aforementioned Gary Jackson once took a hell of a beating in a Dino Bravo squash. That 1992 WWF Horsemen unit 🤯 came up with isn't bad. Creating a then-current WWF Horsemen squad was one of my go to projects from like 1996-Evolution.

Dino Bravo was so meh. I remember when he was in the background for John Tenta'a 1990 WWF run. Dino never appealed to me.

Man, the small details used to matter so much.

Savage wearing a knee pad from Warrior to officially debut the Ultimate Maniacs... Such a nice touch. Then Savage gifting Warrior glasses in return, but knowing he has to speak Crazy to sell Warrior on putting the glasses on. This blossoming bromance is surprisingly so good I'm actually really bummed Warrior bails we don't get the blowoff this buildup has me craving.

Then Max Moon is set to debut at Komet Kid. Can't tell if Paul Diamond or Konnan though.

The pivot to Bret/Shango is so random and dumb.

I always thought Max Moon a.k.a. Komet Kid first debuted on the first Raw...

I also can't believe WWF Superstars tapings have been in Hershey for nearly a month, and it's the third of fourth episode before Perfect busts out the candy puns in intro commentary.

The leg hair on his ham-and-egged rivals Razor's chest-and-stomach carpet.

Also, feel like Model stealing Tatanka's feather was just dropped in favor of pivoting to Tatanka vs. Mountie?

Bruce Mitchell looks like a svelte Ted Cruz.

I might binge-watch just for Mr. Perfect's commentary. The Peacock app makes that such a chore.

Typhoon looks like if Barry Horowitz somehow swallowed Earthquake while.