That seems like the logical move, but it's possible that they don't have the ability to take the skies. I wouldn't be surprised if the Russian air force is in shambles from decades of lack of resources and bad morale.

Footage is out there of destroyed convoy lines. They do not have a better way to move through the country than using the roads so they tend to go single file which opens them up to bombing runs and molotov attacks. Also these convoys are where soldiers are defecting, hence all the reports of running out of gas and lacking spare parts. So dead vehicles in the roads too slowing everything down.

People are noticing that the Russia air force seems to be missing in action and US intel is reporting they have no clue where their air force is or why it is not being used.

Story of the war is Russia's tactics do not make any sense. They planned to show force and have cities surrender and were not prepared at all for the Ukraine to fight. Seems all they got now is artillery tactics until they surrender. The saboteurs failed. Ground troops that tried to rush the cities early on burn (gruesome to see). Air force is MIA and the planes that were deployed early on where taken out fast with stingers. It is a mess. The great Russian military is the emperor with no clothes.

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Soft on Russia Biden created a special investigator and prosecutor in the DOJ to make sure Russia sanctions are enforced. They will also siege oligarch property and yachts in the US, as well as any assets they have in this country.

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Trump did the right thing and denounced this invasion, calling it a holocaust, and said Putin needs to stop killing Ukrainians. Since he is known for flip flopping it means little, but may get the party back to being anti-Russia. The Trump side of the party is still pro-Russia since they think he supports them.

Mar 2, 2022 17:03:13 GMT Gyro LC said:

That seems like the logical move, but it's possible that they don't have the ability to take the skies. I wouldn't be surprised if the Russian air force is in shambles from decades of lack of resources and bad morale.

Or Putin is holding them in reserve since he is taking such heavy losses on his land fleet.  He loses both ground and air forces Russia is defenseless.  

Hmmmmm....WW3 then

Mar 2, 2022 17:34:30 GMT c said:

Mar 2, 2022 17:03:13 GMT Gyro LC said:

That seems like the logical move, but it's possible that they don't have the ability to take the skies. I wouldn't be surprised if the Russian air force is in shambles from decades of lack of resources and bad morale.

Or Putin is holding them in reserve since he is taking such heavy losses on his land fleet.  He loses both ground and air forces Russia is defenseless.  

That would be an odd choice because taking control of the skies is standard practice to protect ground troops.

Most of the world seems happy to maintain a state of detente. They will give Ukraine cash and weapons, but will not go to war. Outside of a DIRECT attack from Russia, I assume we will maintain this position until Russia retreats and claims they achieved their military objectives.

NATO has several justifications to get directly involved from cluster bomb use, to the attack on Slovenia, to the crimes against humanity and now violation of Swiss airspace. As many note, we went to war in many places for far less. But we will not go in as we want all the benefits of war, without any of the costs.

Thank god military spending is inflation free, or we could have inflation problems in the US with higher fuel costs and spending billions on this conflict <.<

Mar 2, 2022 19:55:07 GMT Gyro LC said:

Mar 2, 2022 17:34:30 GMT c said:

Or Putin is holding them in reserve since he is taking such heavy losses on his land fleet.  He loses both ground and air forces Russia is defenseless.  

That would be an odd choice because taking control of the skies is standard practice to protect ground troops.

Lets face it, is any of this war standard practice?  Applying rationality to Putin's actions is madness.  He is using 1940's tactics now of just laying siege and bombarding cities, expect without having supply lines in place so soldiers are just abandoning the artillery pieces once the ammo is used up.  Post war likely one of the largest industries in the Ukraine will be stripping down the majority of what Russia invaded with for the raw materials and metals.  

My guess is though is that the Ukraine is known for RPG defense, and if Putin sends in his airforce they will just shoot them out of the sky with Stingers.  Cold war era planes have little defense against them.

Two Romanian "crashes" in the Black Sea. First a fighter "crashed" then the rescue chopper "crashed." They happened to crash in an area with significant Russian presence.

Also that 800 figure above was a typo most likely.  Intel twitter says it was 80 vehicles destroyed, mostly 122mm Grad MRLS.  Ukraine them captured the rest of the convoy.  

Seems the reason for single file convoys on the road is Russian anti-air defense gets stuck in the mud.  Ditto for their tanks.

Also surreal videos from the nuclear plants of Russians and Ukrainians just like chilling at the nuclear power plants since Russia does not want to take actual control of them, nor do they want to do anything to the engineers that would risk a meltdown, so basically, it is business as usual with Russians just hanging out and helping where they can awkwardly.  Why the reporting is so strange, as the military took the now two nuclear sites, but does not have control of them, as to do that, they would need to replace the engineers, which they cannot do without risking a meltdown that would kill them all.


The fight for Enerhodar was gruesome.  Just seen a guy get his leg totally blown off.  Crazy fuckers they are though rushing tanks with molotovs.

I've been reading that Belarus president has basically leaked the invasion plan for Russia, their plans to split Ukraine, and an invasion planned for Moldova, all from one image haha

Mar 2, 2022 20:50:09 GMT Jake said:

I've been reading that Belarus president has basically leaked the invasion plan for Russia, their plans to split Ukraine, and an invasion planned for Moldova, all from one image haha

Yeah, he let the battle map be recorded and put online.   Related, Russians have been forgetting to take their battle plans from their military vehicles and several leaked outline.  

Some of the left behind Russian battle plans:

This is fucking horrible.

I am very wary of misinformation on both sides as far as how the logistics of war is going. With that being said, the Pentagon and the MoD, as well as just common sense, suggests that this Kyiv convoy is crawling along, beset by supply and morale issues. I can’t imagine that any strategy would have been to draw them out or lull them into a false sense of security. Globalisation in the modern world means sanctions are devastating. If you’re planning an invasion in the modern world, surely you go as fast and as clean as you can or you don’t go at all. I don’t understand the Russians strategy or execution so far at all.

There's a real chance the generals in charge of planning intentionally made a terrible plan to sabotage the operation.

Likely not the generals but those under them. The lower down the ranks the go, the less enthusiasm for the war you get. The top will not be in the field and have to face down death. Those who do, clearly do not want to take that risk.


Also Russia is breaking stuff off of Kiev, including likely parts of that convoy, and redirecting to Kharkiv.

As for the convoy, Sat picks seem to show a breakdown in logistical support vehicles within the convoy, which implies that it was under attack.

Reports are Kherson was taken by the Russians, making it the first captured city. Putin slaughtered citizens here with video documenting the aftermath.

Great article showing essentially why Russia is losing the war. Basically the numbers seem really high, but their combat force is really not that large at all, mostly support, and most of the vehicles in these convoys are non-combat related.

www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/3/2/2083307/-Ukraine-Update-Let-s-talk-some-more-about-logistics-It-s-the-reason-Russia-is-losing-this-war

I have a tear in my eye, socialist redistribution of wealth in our time is possible. People said it could never be done, but government arounds the world are taking possession of yachts, real estate and bank accounts of the Russian oligarchs. Hundreds of billions of dollars being rapidly sieged.

Oligarchs are taking what material wealth they can, boarding their biggest superyachts and taking off to the Indian ocean where they have sanctuary.

It is interesting to note that some of the yachts have missile detection and anti-missile defense systems in them, and one of them will likely be where Putin takes off too when the country comes for his head.  Many believe he will flee to the Eclipse that has a submarine dock on it.

Rumors are to quell unrest and to stop people from taking their cash and trying to flee Russia that Putin may put Russia under martial law by the end of the week.

Meeting tomorrow to determine if Russia will ban all protest rallies and meetings, and ban all organizations that seek to undermine the security of the country.  So basically anyone who opposes the war will banned and rounded up by the military.  Also likely to try to siege assets that belong to the US or EU within their territory and expel all diplomats belonging to opposing countries.  

Looks like the current plan with the troop diversions is for Russia to just destroy Kharkiv, the second largest Ukraine city, to try to get Kiev to surrender, which taking other minor cities near where they make initial deployments.

But Russia is bombing apartments, schools, hospitals, they are just leveling parts of the city of Kharkiv now, while Kiev stuff is all "stalled" as they wait for the rest of the convoy that did not divert away.

Russian claims control of Kherson, and invaded the government building, but the people are still fighting and will continue to do until they cull the population.  

Another fuel air bomb used near Kiev.  They look like nukes when they go off.  They are the strongest non-nuclear weapon Russia has.  Good shot of the first one that went off.

Indirect video of the Kiev strike.

The Ukrainian special forces announced it will no longer capture Russian artillerymen, warning it will “not spare troops” in response to the “brutal shelling” of civilians.

Defence reporter with The Kyiv Independent Illia Ponomarenko posted an update shared to the Ukrainian Special Operations Force’s verified Facebook page, which “vows to identify and assassinate all Russian artillery servicemen responsible for their indiscriminate attacks on civilian targets”.

“You seem to be far away and shoot at targets you can‘t see. You don’t see little children, old people, homes, kindergartens, schools and hospitals - all these are just goals for you,” the translated post reads.

“Every calculation, no matter: commander, driver, guide, charger - will be slaughtered like pigs. Tie your pants up, we‘ve already come for you.

“From now on, there will be no more captured Russian artillery. No mercy, no “please don‘t kill, I surrender” will be getting away.”

If the enemy thinks that Ukraine will only defend itself, they are wrong. We will do as we see fit,” Ukraine’s Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Oleksiy Danilov said.

Political analysts across the globe were immediately alarmed by the stark message. Independent commentator Kyle Kulinski claimed the post was Ukraine forces “admitting to war crimes” by revealing their intention to refuse surrender.

The announcement came as the town of Izium, roughly two hours southeast of the heavily-attacked Kharkiv, reported eight civilians including two children were killed after an air attack hitting a residential building.

Gonna be hard to try either country for War Crimes when neither have signed the Rome Agreement. In the court of public opinion, most people will think the artillerymen committing war crimes, should not be granted safe haven for just saying we surrounded and claiming they thought it was just a war exercise. Be a really shitty thing to do when Ukraine is taking the morale high ground, but it would be a very Ukraine thing to do. Justice in Ukraine is usually swift and severe.  This assumes the treaties even cover military groups committing war crimes, which they may not.

Likewise Russia will veto UN security council action against them so one of the NATO members will veto investigations against the Ukraine.

Ukraine in their defense will say they told the world that war crimes were being committed, and no one else was willing to stop them, so they will.

In practical terms, none of this matters. Artillerymen usually die in their machines. The pictures of the destroyed convoys are littered with bodies. Many burned vehicles have charred humans still in them as well. When the artillery goes down then people will retreat since they no longer need to hold that position. But generally not before.

And in general we are talking about a few hundred Russians soldiers tops will be affected.  Thus far 2000 civilians have been killed in the Ukraine.  

Fast research says that Ukraine is correct, they can execute the soldiers after a domestic trial in their courts unless Russia will go on record and say the soldiers were acting under their explicit orders to target civilians. Otherwise attacking civilians legally becomes a domestic matter as it is now a matter of one combat party versus a non-combat party, and in the event the country in which the act occurs both have control of their government and possession of the prisoner, can treat it as any other criminal act that occurs in their borders. 

Still shit optics, but Ukraine can still lawfully execute them, post Ukraine trial, in accordance to most major treaties because Russia will never admit that they ordered the attacks, and take the responsibility onto themselves.

Overnight Russia pretty much just started to destroy residential areas in Chernihiv. No strategic targets in the area, they just attacking the people directly now.

On the other hand though, Ukraine citizens outside of Chernihiv found a TOS-1A thermobaric MRL with 24 rockets and 400 liters of spare fuel.  Looks like they found a solution to that pesky convoy should they risk using them.  

There is also an increasingly amount of videos on tik tok of Ukraine people joy riding in Russian tanks.  

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Having gotten supplies from a dozen countries in the last two days Ukraine says they are moving from defensive mode to counteroffensive mode.  

China urged Russia to delay the invasion of Ukraine until the conclusion of the Winter Olympics in Beijing, it was revealed on Wednesday.

Senior Chinese officials made the request in early February after Washington informed Beijing of the Russian troop build-up in the hopes communist leaders would pressure their ally to stand down, a source confirmed to Reuters.

Russia waged war with Ukraine four days after the Olympics ended, and Russian President Vladimir Putin escalated his military advance and rhetoric in the hours after the closing ceremony ended.

The New York Times first reported the collusion Wednesday, citing White House officials and a Western intelligence report. It was reportedly unclear if the discussions reached Chinese President Xi Jinping and Putin.

Shocker.