US confirmed we are sending in drones in Gaza to "search for hostages."

I assume we have them armed with missiles of love and friendship ready to be deployed as needed.

Israel oppsed and attacked a medical convoy that was moving people from Northern Gaza hospitals to Egypt.

Nov 3, 2023 21:07:44 GMT c said:

US confirmed we are sending in drones in Gaza to "search for hostages."

I assume we have them armed with missiles of love and friendship ready to be deployed as needed.

Dude, you cannot seriously be scolding military action to find hostages, right?

US drones are not looking for hostages, they are looking for Hamas. Which when found Israel will bomb with no regards for the lives of any hostages they may have. They made it clear the lives of hostages have zero priority if they can Hamas members.

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Reported the US will be pressured out of the war within weeks. As the protests grow, so does the risk of riots, and once we hit the point where riots are likely, Biden will pull out. Pulling out means we pull the troops and drones back to the fleets, and pull the fleets out.

MASSIVE DC protest coming this weekend.

Biden will also veto the House GOP aid that would also defund our IRS.  Unlikely the US gets aid to Israel before pressure to move to non-interference and promote a cease fire start.

Also worth noting the US is to deploy about 2000 army members through our Middle East bases. Details of where they are being deployed too are classified. Still claiming it is for deference only. Deference at the US tax dollar.

So Idrael hit an ambulance with an airstrips, the thin veneer of humanity is slipping.

Israel also cancelled all funding to Gaza and all residents of Gaza are being deported from the rest of Israel back to Gaza. I mean it's a bit rich to say no two state solution but treat Gaza residents as if they're not Israeli citizens

Palestinian Arabs numbered 1 million in 1967. Tbey number over 5 million today. If Israel is practicing genocide they sure as hell suck at it.

Don't choke on those Freedom Fries Champ.

Millions protesting this weekend worldwide. Seems every major city has a large protest.  100k in DC alone.

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House GOP in the US drafted a bill to start deporting Palestinians on visas, and put a ban on them from entering the country.

Also, Israelis are protesting outside the home of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and are calling on him to resign.

The civilian death toll in 29 days is over 9,200 now, and likely higher.

In contrast, the civilian death toll in Ukraine since the beginning of the Russian Invasion is estimated to be between 9,700 - 10,700.

That's 1 month v 20 months.

World politics is such a weird thing.
During the BLM riots you had peol3 chanting about death to whites and calling whiteness a curse and the media applauded.
Now the same protest apparatus has turned its attentions to the Palestinian plight and when the anti Jewish sentiments role out, that same media shits itself.

I don't know why the media has been on an anti white crusade, I don't know why they actively fight for working against the nations best interests, but now you've given your dog a taste for human flesh and somehow you're outraged when it bites the hand that feeds it?

The media promoting tribalism, this is news to me.

News.com.au is great. One day it will post an article attacking men for a particular toxic behaviour, then the next day, an article applauding women for that exact toxic behaviour.

Call out the hypocrisy.. and you're " part of the problem "

" New toxic trend emerging: men who hate their wives "

" Stunning & brave: women who hate their husbands "

Nuclear debate started today in Israel as a minister suggested nuking Gaza.

Tell me how it's not about wiping out an entire population again?

(not you c.. we're good on this)

Israel will do whatever it takes to get rid of Palestine I assume. And what is faster than extermination.

Doubt they will nuke, but high-yield explosives are def on the table. They will claim they are needed to defeat Hamas hiding in tunnels that will someone also free hostages.

I am curious how long it takes to raise the Egypt question of pushing them into Egypt, against the will of Egypt, to fight Hamas.  Or when people will start to address the attacks in the West Bank that are increasing.

Well, Trump announced his solution tonight. He will simply tell Hamas they cannot commit terrorism anymore and peace will spread through the middle east again.

Nov 5, 2023 10:41:04 GMT c said:

Israel will do whatever it takes to get rid of Palestine I assume. And what is faster than extermination.

Doubt they will nuke, but high-yield explosives are def on the table. They will claim they are needed to defeat Hamas hiding in tunnels that will someone also free hostages.

I am curious how long it takes to raise the Egypt question of pushing them into Egypt, against the will of Egypt, to fight Hamas.  Or when people will start to address the attacks in the West Bank that are increasing.

These Gaza residents are Israeli citizens that have had their own country declare war on them.

Nov 4, 2023 22:20:31 GMT NATH45 said:

Don't choke on those Freedom Fries Champ.

www.britannica.com/topic/genocide

1 million growing into 5 million is kind of counter to that.    Not my fault you put feelings over facts.


And for good measure, lets cover another buzzword used by the pro-Hamas crowd


www.britannica.com/question/What-is-apartheid

Under aparthied, blacks in South Africa had no rights of citizenship.   By contrast Arabs (1/5 of the Israeli population) enjoy full citzenship rights in Israel.   And are not even required by law to serve in the miltary, only the Jewish population has that obligation.

And as I've said before, the only reason the two-state soloution hasn't worked is that the Palestinians keep rejecting it.    "From the river to the sea" is the only solution they will accept.

You realize they are not free to leave Gaza or the West Bank freely right? Israel had both areas locked down for years. Unless you have a work permit free travel is not allowed. That does not sound like full rights.

Nov 5, 2023 11:56:29 GMT iNCY said:

Nov 5, 2023 10:41:04 GMT c said:

Israel will do whatever it takes to get rid of Palestine I assume. And what is faster than extermination.

Doubt they will nuke, but high-yield explosives are def on the table. They will claim they are needed to defeat Hamas hiding in tunnels that will someone also free hostages.

I am curious how long it takes to raise the Egypt question of pushing them into Egypt, against the will of Egypt, to fight Hamas.  Or when people will start to address the attacks in the West Bank that are increasing.

These Gaza residents are Israeli citizens that have had their own country declare war on them.

Not according to Israel they are not.  None of this should be a shock given people ran on getting rid of Gaza and the West Bank last election cycle in Israel.  They were just waiting for next attack to come to respond in full force.

Nov 5, 2023 19:18:39 GMT c said:

You realize they are not free to leave Gaza or the West Bank freely right? Israel had both areas locked down for years. Unless you have a work permit free travel is not allowed. That does not sound like full rights.

I wasn't talking about Gaza and the West Bank.   The population of Israel proper (ie undisputed) is 1/5 Arab.   Arabs volunteer in the Israeli military, serve on the Israeli courts, and are members of the Israeli parliament.   All things which run counter to an apartheid system.

No clue what point you are trying to make, because non-Palestinians are treated ok, means nothing to what is going on.

Israel leveling Northern Gaza now. They also control Southern Gaza and are preparing to execute anyone who tries to flee.

Israel rejects any ceasefire claiming it will simply give Hamas time to regroup.

Also believed several hospitals have tunnels under them, and are expected to be targeted in the near future.

Nov 5, 2023 19:52:00 GMT c said:

No clue what point you are trying to make, because non-Palestinians are treated ok, means nothing to what is going on.

Israel leveling Northern Gaza now. They also control Southern Gaza and are preparing to execute anyone who tries to flee.

Israel rejects any ceasefire claiming it will simply give Hamas time to regroup.

Also believed several hospitals have tunnels under them, and are expected to be targeted in the near future.

It’s almost like Hamas is willing to sacrifice civilians and use them as cover.

Nov 5, 2023 19:15:19 GMT thereallt said:

Nov 4, 2023 22:20:31 GMT NATH45 said:

Don't choke on those Freedom Fries Champ.

www.britannica.com/topic/genocide

1 million growing into 5 million is kind of counter to that.    Not my fault you put feelings over facts.


And for good measure, lets cover another buzzword used by the pro-Hamas crowd


www.britannica.com/question/What-is-apartheid

Under aparthied, blacks in South Africa had no rights of citizenship.   By contrast Arabs (1/5 of the Israeli population) enjoy full citzenship rights in Israel.   And are not even required by law to serve in the miltary, only the Jewish population has that obligation.

And as I've said before, the only reason the two-state soloution hasn't worked is that the Palestinians keep rejecting it.    "From the river to the sea" is the only solution they will accept.

Those Arabs, were overwhelming the remnants and descendants of the Arabs who stayed within the borders Israel declared after the 1948 Arab-Israeli war.

Then when the state of Israel was created out of the British Mandate of Palestine, then home to about 1.2 million Arabs, more than 700,000 of them were expelled or departed in what Arabs call the nakba, or catastrophe.

Plan Dalet has since been described as the " blueprint for ethnic cleansing " which was essentially a plan to take as much land away from The Arabs, expell those people and increase its borders before, and in anticipation of the invasion by Arab armies.

Those left then automatically became citizens, forming about half of Israel’s population. Unlike Jewish citizens, Arab citizens of Israel were subjected to military rule until 1966.

Israel’s establishment as an explicitly Jewish state is a primary point of contention, with many of the state’s critics arguing that this by nature casts non-Jews as second-class citizens with fewer rights. The 1950 Law of Return, for example, grants all Jews, as well as their children, grandchildren, and spouses, the right to move to Israel and automatically gain citizenship. Non-Jews do not have these rights. Palestinians and their descendants have no legal right to return to the lands their families held before being displaced in 1948 or 1967.

Some 40% of Arabs in Israel are considered " poor " with predominantly Arab towns and schools receiving significantly less funding until recently compared to their Jewish counterparts. Many feel they are treated with discrimination, having significantly less representation politically and socially despite making up 1/5 the population and even more so with the rise of extreme right wing politics and ruling class, who deem anyone pro-palenstine as a terrorist sympathiser.

Sounds like a delightful time. They probably do suck at it, but that hasn't stopped them trying.

Got to love the idea that if Hamas is using civilians as shields then Israel is cool to breaks the Geneva Conventions and commit war crimes.

They mine as well just drop the nukes then. If people do not care if civilians die to kill Hamas that is the best way for them to end this swiftly.

It also is hella ironic that Israel is breaking conventions essentially made for them.

Those Nuke comments have already been discredited by Bibi. Calling Eliyahu " out of touch with reality " for making those comments.

Eliyahu, literally said he was willing to sacrifice those Israelis being held hostage in the event of dropping a Nuke. Considering them a casualty of war, as a Nuke would kill everyone easily and stop, obviously, any further terrorists attacking Israel. Obviously, because they'd be dead. Along with everyone else.

But dropping a bomb on a civilian population in this scenario and not expecting international condemnation and a likely counter invasion from The Arabs, suggests.. out of touch with reality.

I for one don't exactly want to witness a world resorting to trading Nuclear weapons.

Bibi has also suspended Eliyahu indefinitely.

Bibi would so do it if he could get away with it. Bombing Gaza to rubble though has the same effect and is acceptable to the world apparently though.

Nov 5, 2023 22:41:17 GMT c said:

Got to love the idea that if Hamas is using civilians as shields then Israel is cool to breaks the Geneva Conventions and commit war crimes.

They mine as well just drop the nukes then. If people do not care if civilians die to kill Hamas that is the best way for them to end this swiftly.

It also is hella ironic that Israel is breaking conventions essentially made for them.

I realize just how anti-Israel you are, but Hamas can continually attack Israel and hide behind civilians, to no end.

IDK the solution, and I’m not even supportive of Israel’s actions, but you are as one-sided and bias in this situation as possible. You’ve yet to show even the slightest hint of nuance throughout.

US military surfaced a ballistic sub in the Middle East. These have 20 intercontinental ballistic missiles with some of them bearing nuclear warheads. It is extremely rare we surface these. Said to be a message to Iran that we will destroy them if they enter the Israeli conflict.

As for being anti-Israeli, I am anti-child murder. At least 4000 children dead so far, with some estimates closer to 7000. How anyone can be ok with child murder on this scale is beyond me.