Another ridiculous turn..

Trump wasn't the only politician to ever suggest such an idea - you're talking about a part of the world seeing incredible conflict and political instability with none other than terrorism and civil war at the heart and soul of it.

Sure, it's potentially an over the top reaction, and was likely to play into his base, but it's a shithole part of the world and it's not unrealistic for anyone to be cautious to the point of extreme in their actions. Unfortunately, Trump is extreme.

None of that has to do with covid.

Time for a cognitive assessment.  Trump talking about Lara, Eric's wife.

Jul 10, 2024 0:39:21 GMT c said:

None of that has to do with covid.

You bought it up....

Yes, I said the great lie Trump said was covid would not be a problem and he had it contained. Then to kid that closing the border would do not nothing to stop the spread.

Not sure what you were talking about had to do with covid. Or was this just that whataboutism you keep rambling about?

You referenced it.

And now you don't want to talk about it..

Jul 9, 2024 21:07:32 GMT c said:

Jul 9, 2024 17:48:30 GMT RT said:

One of the few things you and I agree on politically. I think Trump's undoing was just that he pointed the finger too hard at one country when it was coming from all sides, but to be fair I might be remembering wrong. And while I don't think shutting down international travel would have helped much (it was already too late), we definitely should have done it a lot faster than we did. It was one of the only things about how the pandemic was handled in Canada that drove me nuts. Air travel into Canada was not shut down for weeks after the virus was discovered, and I hated every second. A massive failure on our government's part.

Well one thing is for sure.  The Trump muslim travel ban of 2017 was not covid related.  Covid was not discovered for another two years.

Again, YOU bought up Muslim countries in the COVID debate. I bought up China. Why are you arguing with yourself?

Imagine Biden was POTUS during COVID. We’d all be fucked after 4pm.

It may have been mentioned already,

www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/sadness-at-critical-biden-meeting/news-story/1de347c1ad189d19c26f8821dc3d25a3

Trump has demanded a man-to-man, moderator-free debate this week.

Jul 10, 2024 3:21:53 GMT NATH45 said:

It may have been mentioned already,

www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/sadness-at-critical-biden-meeting/news-story/1de347c1ad189d19c26f8821dc3d25a3

Trump has demanded a man-to-man, moderator-free debate this week.

This is a dumb move for Trump, he is prone to undisciplined rambling. The last debate forced him to be tight and on message.

Biden will do the ABC debate next and that is it. No one seriously believes Biden will go and have a screaming match with Trump because Trump wants it.  So next debate is Sept 10th with the same stipulations as the first debate.

198 democrats voted to let illegal immigrants be allowed to vote today. 5 democrats voted for them not to be able to vote. All 216 republicans voted for them not to vote either.

So you still going to tell me the democrats don’t have hidden agendas with this invasion they allowed?

Jul 10, 2024 23:49:12 GMT KING KID said:

198 democrats voted to let illegal immigrants be allowed to vote today. 5 democrats voted for them not to be able to vote. All 216 republicans voted for them not to vote either.

So you still going to tell me the democrats don’t have hidden agendas with this invasion they allowed?

Musk has been pushing this line on X for about a year
Not a constitutional lawyer here, but I also understand that whether people are registered to vote or not, the number of delegates per state is based on population, is it true that comes into it?

Jul 10, 2024 23:58:31 GMT iNCY said:

Jul 10, 2024 23:49:12 GMT KING KID said:

198 democrats voted to let illegal immigrants be allowed to vote today. 5 democrats voted for them not to be able to vote. All 216 republicans voted for them not to vote either.

So you still going to tell me the democrats don’t have hidden agendas with this invasion they allowed?

Musk has been pushing this line on X for about a year
Not a constitutional lawyer here, but I also understand that whether people are registered to vote or not, the number of delegates per state is based on population, is it true that comes into it?

Yes, the constitution says that the number of people in a state is what matters, not the number of citizens. 14th Amendment constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt14-S2-1/ALDE_00000847/#:~:text=Fourteenth%20Amendment%2C%20Section%202%3A,State%2C%20excluding%20Indians%20not%20taxed.

Jul 11, 2024 2:26:59 GMT Gyro LC said:

Jul 10, 2024 23:58:31 GMT iNCY said:

Musk has been pushing this line on X for about a year
Not a constitutional lawyer here, but I also understand that whether people are registered to vote or not, the number of delegates per state is based on population, is it true that comes into it?

Yes, the constitution says that the number of people in a state is what matters, not the number of citizens. 14th Amendment constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt14-S2-1/ALDE_00000847/#:~:text=Fourteenth%20Amendment%2C%20Section%202%3A,State%2C%20excluding%20Indians%20not%20taxed.

Yes, but the number of people is determined by the census.

Guess who tends not to participate and identify themselves in a census?

I read this.

“Imagine a government operated so poorly, they had to import an entire nation of new voters because they lost the citizens vote.”


You literally just have to open your eyes to see this. Hate Trump all you want, but the truth is the truth.

Almost like we need a federal system for elections...

I do wonder though, how people assume non-citizens are voting in elections.  Every state requires a voter ID number to vote in federal elections, and citizenship is a requirement to get that number in all 50 states.  Hear about hoards of illegal immigrants voting federally, but no one can ever seem to produce these people voting illegally, even after intensive reviews of the elections in court.

Main source of voter fraud for years has simply been republicans voting multiple times in different districts or casting votes for the dead.

Jul 11, 2024 3:23:36 GMT c said:

Almost like we need a federal system for elections...

I do wonder though, how people assume non-citizens are voting in elections.  Every state requires a voter ID number to vote in federal elections, and citizenship is a requirement to get that number in all 50 states.  Hear about hoards of illegal immigrants voting federally, but no one can ever seem to produce these people voting illegally, even after intensive reviews of the elections in court.

Main source of voter fraud for years has simply been republicans voting multiple times in different districts or casting votes for the dead.

I have been reading about his over the past week, most states only require a signature from someone claiming to be a citizen, there are almost no checks undertaken and the framework doesn't exist to validate it.

It is so strange that people claim it is racist or ableist to ensure that there is some sort of ID requirement for voting.
You need ID to buy beer or to drive a car but not for elections?
If someone doesn't care enough to have ID to vote, then they shouldn't be voting.

Or just do what we do and switch to mandatory voting, one person one vote is easy to verify.
It is not a question of a Federal election body (Something I think is a good idea) but a reflection on how shit so many things still are in the USA. 
The fact that you have states running their own vehicle licenses and birth/death/marriages records and none of them being linked is such an embarrassment.
It is like the fact that you had the same name as someone who was on the no-fly list meant you couldn't get through the airport without a hassle... Such a shambles.

www.usa.gov/voter-id

In all states you need to show identification to register to vote. For kids getting their first ID, you need a social security card and your birth certificate. Social security cards are only issued to citizens.

Only 14 states allow you to vote without an ID, but you cast a provisional ballot. These ballots only count if conditions are met. Generally, your signature matches the one on file. If the sigs do not match your ballot is tossed.

For your vote to count in any state, they check to see if you are currently on the list of registered voters for that place of polling.  If not you do not get to vote.  The idea you can just walk up to any voting place and vote is utter nonsense.  

The issue of having ID to vote is conservatives do not want to make this free. They want to bring back a poll tax under a different name. If the ID was one that was free, and could be obtained in a timely manner liberals would have no issue.

The great irony of the whole voter fraud stuff is the people who all were the loudest about it 2020 all lost their law licenses over the lawsuits, and many lost their votes for felony convictions related to election tampering.  Trump got immunity, but his lawyers did not.

Et Tu CNN?

Jul 11, 2024 8:01:11 GMT c said:

www.usa.gov/voter-id

In all states you need to show identification to register to vote. For kids getting their first ID, you need a social security card and your birth certificate. Social security cards are only issued to citizens.

Only 14 states allow you to vote without an ID, but you cast a provisional ballot. These ballots only count if conditions are met. Generally, your signature matches the one on file. If the sigs do not match your ballot is tossed.

For your vote to count in any state, they check to see if you are currently on the list of registered voters for that place of polling.  If not you do not get to vote.  The idea you can just walk up to any voting place and vote is utter nonsense.  

The issue of having ID to vote is conservatives do not want to make this free. They want to bring back a poll tax under a different name. If the ID was one that was free, and could be obtained in a timely manner liberals would have no issue.

The great irony of the whole voter fraud stuff is the people who all were the loudest about it 2020 all lost their law licenses over the lawsuits, and many lost their votes for felony convictions related to election tampering.  Trump got immunity, but his lawyers did not.

None of the following requires someone to have citizenship on the link you posted:

Jul 11, 2024 3:16:33 GMT KING KID said:

I read this.

“Imagine a government operated so poorly, they had to import an entire nation of new voters because they lost the citizens vote.”


You literally just have to open your eyes to see this. Hate Trump all you want, but the truth is the truth.

We have the same claims being made here. Immigration is at an all time high. I am not against immigration. Unlike the US, Canada does not have the population to support itself without immigration, but we currently do not have the services and infrastructure to support the numbers. 

Jul 11, 2024 10:26:02 GMT iNCY said:

Et Tu CNN?

And for the 50th time...why is no move being made to put an age limit on those running for President/Public Office? The US apparently cannot trust those in charge of the National parties to circumvent it. Pelosi better watch out too because she's calling subtly for Biden to step down and she's no spring chicken herself at 84.  It isn't much different in the work force where some of these older workers are hanging on, usually at the detriment of younger workers who should have moved up and the business itself. Because in the end, a government is very much a Corporation. 

Probably same reason there's no push for term limits, insider trading or any other rules keeping them in check.

In more treasonous activities by the left;

Milwaukee Radio Station admits to scrubbing out parts of their Biden interview from the people of America AT the Biden campaigns request.


The first edit came about five minutes into the 18-minute-long interview, in which Biden claimed, “… and in addition to that, I have more blacks in my administration than any other president, all other presidents combined, and in major positions, cabinet positions.”


Another part they cut out from the American people hearing is Biden rambling this:


“I don’t know if they even call for their hanging or not, but he — but they said […] convicted of murder,” Biden said.



I guess it’s okay to come public with these things now because the lefts new move isn’t shielding Biden anymore but forcing him to step down.

www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/new-barack-obama-revelation-foments-suspicions-the-former-president-is-quietly-working-to-oust-joe-biden/news-story/42127fec8fe19703ec1a72d7c3c720e7

Former US president Barack Obama has been accused of quietly “orchestrating” efforts, behind the scenes, to convince Joe Biden to quit his country’s presidential race.

Jul 11, 2024 10:29:38 GMT iNCY said:

Jul 11, 2024 8:01:11 GMT c said:

www.usa.gov/voter-id

In all states you need to show identification to register to vote. For kids getting their first ID, you need a social security card and your birth certificate. Social security cards are only issued to citizens.

Only 14 states allow you to vote without an ID, but you cast a provisional ballot. These ballots only count if conditions are met. Generally, your signature matches the one on file. If the sigs do not match your ballot is tossed.

For your vote to count in any state, they check to see if you are currently on the list of registered voters for that place of polling.  If not you do not get to vote.  The idea you can just walk up to any voting place and vote is utter nonsense.  

The issue of having ID to vote is conservatives do not want to make this free. They want to bring back a poll tax under a different name. If the ID was one that was free, and could be obtained in a timely manner liberals would have no issue.

The great irony of the whole voter fraud stuff is the people who all were the loudest about it 2020 all lost their law licenses over the lawsuits, and many lost their votes for felony convictions related to election tampering.  Trump got immunity, but his lawyers did not.

None of the following requires someone to have citizenship on the link you posted:

The ID's you need are to prove citizenship, residency and identity.  You need a mix of those proofs to prove all three.  Different proofs apply to different criteria.   Generally need birth certificate for ID, social security card for citizenship and recent mail for residency.  ID cards since they require the first two, can replace the first two.  The rest of that list to confirm address in the event it does not match your ID card.

www.usa.gov/who-can-vote

The citizen requirement is constitutional via the 26th amendment.  14th amendment I believe was what really solidified citizenship as the requirement to vote as it defined what a citizen is, but the 26th is the most recent amendment to reaffirm this.

Allowing non-citizens the right to vote federally will require amending the constitution.  Non-citizens can vote locally if the city or town allows it, or statewide should a state grant the right, but they cannot vote for president or congress.

I think we're seeing the Biden presidency ending right before our eyes.

Earlier today, he misspoke, and referred to Ukrainian President Zelensky as President Putin.

And during the press conference, he again misspoke, and called Vice President Harris, Vice President Trump.

I think we're gonna have a contested convention this year.

Biden is doing much better now but that Trump gaffe will be what history remembers if he loses.

Trump makes much worse gaffes every night but no one cares as no one really believes Trump is all there anymore.  Wonder if the sex tapes get released if even that will do anything to his rep.

There is literally nobody questioning Trumps mental health except for Maddow and Friends.

After hiding Biden from Americans for the last 4 years, how can anyone trust them anymore? I just don’t get it.

Trump leads Biden 50%-47% in the Pew Consensus Polls right now.