Jul 2, 2024 10:45:29 GMT RagnarokMike said:

Jun 29, 2024 13:44:08 GMT KING KID said:

What did the DNC do after losing the election to Trump? Or did you forget? Russia ring a bell?

The left has been destroying and dividing this country since Obama’s second term. The only ones drinking Kool Aid are the people who support the left and are sitting in rubble being told “everything is okay” and actually believing it because that’s what they’re being told.

You saying Joe Biden is the best candidate is the biggest crock of shit I ever read and it proves my point. Even C has gone quiet on how great the left is after that disastrous debate. Get a grip. Who do you think cares about Pittsburgh more? Biden or Trump?

That is a hilariously ironic reply, the right are chugging conservative Jesus juice at an unprecedented rate, being told they're sitting in rubble and actually believe it. Actually blaming the left for the division while supporting the biggest hatemonger in politics since we got out (or at least forced into seclusion) the Jim Crowers is wild, foundation and driving force of Trump's whole platform is sowing as much division as possible. "Because that's what they're being told" is also how Trump's whole constituency lives, practically all regurgitate the same nonsense the proven compulsive liar spouts verbatim. Like, all politicians lie, but Trump seems to do so almost exclusively, guy lies about useless shit that's easily disproven, like not making it through day 1 without lying about "most attended inauguration ever," or getting past the opening of the debate without "best economy ever." His whole side of the debate was just blathering delusions of both grandeur and paranoia, Biden speaking like shit was no more embarrassing. And in no way shape or form even close to as embarrassing as Trump's complete meltdown after losing the last election, that showed complete mental incompetency  on his part, pure detachment from reality. Speaking poorly is not worse than being an actual lunatic. Bad debate vs convicted felon is also an easy choice.

It's kind of baffling how blindly loyal people are to one of the most disloyal public figure I've ever seen, dude threw his own VP under the bus for not committing  treason for him, you either 100% follow him or you're 100% against him.

Dems and Biden are bad, republicans and Trump are worse, we're totally fucked, two party system is shit.

You wrote so much yet said so little. Holy shit. 

“grandeur and paranoia” yet you use Jim Crow. 😂 

Jul 2, 2024 14:52:22 GMT KING KID said:

You wrote so much yet said so little. Holy shit. 

Proving Mike's point in style. He said a lot, you choose not to see. Blindly loyal, indeed.

Jul 2, 2024 15:28:45 GMT iron maiden said:

Not necessarily. You said women got equality and as a woman I would say we did to a point and are regressing on that front as well as others.

Can you be more specific on how we are regressing? I'm not saying I disagree, I am genuinely curious to hear your perspective.

In the US women lost the right to abortions, and in some places, this extends to cases where they must carry non-viable children to term or put their lives in danger. Also laws will force people who were raped to give birth to the rapist's babies, and then the rapist will also get parental rights.

Hell in many parts of the US you cannot get an OBGYN right now. New doctors do not want to do residency or work in states with the abortion bans since normal routine decisions, like aborting a fetus when the mother's life is in danger, can find them getting hit with criminal liability.

IVF is slowly losing legal status as well here as IVF bans expand as well.

On deck for the US still are bans on contraceptives and no fault divorces. States have bills for both bans in drafts right now.

Shit is not good here at all for women and only looks to be getting worse.  


My favorite display of sexist attitudes is a guy in his 20's can get a vasectomy no questions asked at most places.  They just get a speech how it may make it so they cannot have kids later in life.  A woman wants to get her uterus removed for endometriosis, a condition that causes extreme pain, is told with rare exceptions they cannot have this done until they are at least 40 because either they or a future husband may want kids.  Instead they are just to basically suck it up and deal with the pain because they there is nothing they can do.  My ex went through this and ended up drinking herself to death trying to cope with the pain.

While I appreciate that there ridiculous contradictions in the availability of those medical procedures for women, having a vasectomy and having your uterus removed are two dramatically different things in terms of reproduction, side effects, and risk to the patient.

Now I’m not saying it should be against the law to have the procedure done, but I’m also not sure that additional counseling or even waiting periods are intrinsically bad.

The issue was never risk to the patient or side effects though. It was strictly being able to have kids. And we only started to bring it up when two years of treatment already failed and doctors said there were no other options left. We are far from the only group involved, people actually curate lists of doctors will do the procedure because so many are left suffering needlessly. We simply could not afford it as none where in her area of coverage for insurance.

The greatest irony is of course people who have this condition are almost always infertile as well. I know with my ex she bleed about 300 days out of the year, to the point of anemia.

And the comparison is valid I think. For males surgery that would stop you from reproducing is not questioned, but for women it is routinely denied. Even tubal ligation in some states requires the consent of a husband, and if you are in a gay marriage or single it is denied.

I really don’t understand the if ____ wins I’m moving crowd this
Time.

Both candidates have been President and the Sun still shined.

I believe it was Putin that said he doesn’t really care who wins the US elections as the agenda of the USA has always remained the same.

Jul 2, 2024 17:20:16 GMT mikec said:

While I appreciate that there ridiculous contradictions in the availability of those medical procedures for women, having a vasectomy and having your uterus removed are two dramatically different things in terms of reproduction, side effects, and risk to the patient.

Now I’m not saying it should be against the law to have the procedure done, but I’m also not sure that additional counseling or even waiting periods are intrinsically bad.

Here if you're young and want a vasectomy most doctors performing the procedure will require a letter from a mental health professional.

To the post c made, a woman can have her tubes tied, she doesn't need to have a hysterectomy for contraceptive reasons, thats like a man requesting his testicles removed for contraception reasons.

Trump comes in with a mandate things will change REALLY fast. Plans are if that happens to kill the filibuster this time in the Senate, the single process the US has to stop fast partisan change. That happens Trump can ram whatever he wants through. And from what I am seeing there is a very good chance Trump comes in with a mandate again.

He wanted to do this in 2016 but did not have the votes. But many who opposed it left congress or are leaving congress this term. And immense pressure will be put on those who are left to go along with the others in killing it. With a new GOP leader coming in for the Senate too, punitive actions may be taken as well, such as stripping committees. Not sure even the turtle will try to stop Trump this time.

Jul 2, 2024 19:05:24 GMT iNCY said:

Jul 2, 2024 17:20:16 GMT mikec said:

While I appreciate that there ridiculous contradictions in the availability of those medical procedures for women, having a vasectomy and having your uterus removed are two dramatically different things in terms of reproduction, side effects, and risk to the patient.

Now I’m not saying it should be against the law to have the procedure done, but I’m also not sure that additional counseling or even waiting periods are intrinsically bad.

Here if you're young and want a vasectomy most doctors performing the procedure will require a letter from a mental health professional.

To the post c made, a woman can have her tubes tied, she doesn't need to have a hysterectomy for contraceptive reasons, thats like a man requesting his testicles removed for contraception reasons.

The point with that one is there is a medical reason to do it, and it is still not done because of reproductive issues.  Be like a man with testicular cancer being told they cannot remove them because he may want a child in 15 years, so they have to use less effective means only to treat that may not fix the issue at all.

Doctors just trying to keep future patients coming in when they deny sterilization. They need customers and wage slaves.

Jul 2, 2024 16:35:09 GMT Emperor said:

Jul 2, 2024 14:52:22 GMT KING KID said:

You wrote so much yet said so little. Holy shit. 

Proving Mike's point in style. He said a lot, you choose not to see. Blindly loyal, indeed.

Jul 2, 2024 15:28:45 GMT iron maiden said:

Not necessarily. You said women got equality and as a woman I would say we did to a point and are regressing on that front as well as others.

Can you be more specific on how we are regressing? I'm not saying I disagree, I am genuinely curious to hear your perspective.

Name me one time in that post where he argued my points I made in the post he quoted. 

www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/full-extent-of-joe-bidens-cognitive-decline-exposed/news-story/dc52075d83c3d563a725613aa09a810a

" Rigor mortis "

Spinal.

"Bernstein did not suggest he had seen the instances first hand himself."

The fact that Biden been doing like daily remarks and appears just fine seems to contradict the decline stuff.

What is likely is was sick and they pumped him full of cold medicine, which interacted with his old man meds on the debate night, basically leading to doing the debate while robotripping.  Rewatch the debate this makes a lot of sense, as it does look like he was stoned out of fucking mind for the duration of it.

The excuses just get more creative by the week.

He was not sick. 🤣

Bernstein didn’t need to see it first hand. The whole world did during the debate and several times when he spoke, fell, got lost on stage and shook invisible peoples hands.

Jul 2, 2024 19:05:24 GMT iNCY said:

Jul 2, 2024 17:20:16 GMT mikec said:

While I appreciate that there ridiculous contradictions in the availability of those medical procedures for women, having a vasectomy and having your uterus removed are two dramatically different things in terms of reproduction, side effects, and risk to the patient.

Now I’m not saying it should be against the law to have the procedure done, but I’m also not sure that additional counseling or even waiting periods are intrinsically bad.

Here if you're young and want a vasectomy most doctors performing the procedure will require a letter from a mental health professional.

To the post c made, a woman can have her tubes tied, she doesn't need to have a hysterectomy for contraceptive reasons, thats like a man requesting his testicles removed for contraception reasons.

Really? I had to have my husband sign off on my tubal. That was in the 2000's by the way-I want to say 2002. For my hysterectomy (2004) they asked for him to sign too, but he was in Afghanistan and things were 'rocky' at the time, so I was able to advocate for myself. I feel like we are heading back to this. 

Jul 2, 2024 21:01:53 GMT c said:

"Bernstein did not suggest he had seen the instances first hand himself."

The fact that Biden been doing like daily remarks and appears just fine seems to contradict the decline stuff.

What is likely is was sick and they pumped him full of cold medicine, which interacted with his old man meds on the debate night, basically leading to doing the debate while robotripping.  Rewatch the debate this makes a lot of sense, as it does look like he was stoned out of fucking mind for the duration of it.

Or he's old and on the decline. It's how old age works. It's like with my 70 year old mother. Most of the time my mom is in better shape mentally and physically than I am, but every now and again, age creeps in and reminds me that she's getting older. Her friend is in her early 80's. One day we went to a play with her and everything was good. Next time we saw her (a week later), she could barely string a sentence together.  This woman had been a high school teacher. Very intelligent and some days talking to her was like drinking at the fountain of knowledge and the next we were helping her find her way from the bathroom. He's not sick - well not in that way. He's just getting old. 

Really hard to go with mental decline when he was fine an hour after the debate at the coffee shop. But people already made it up their mind so guess he just has a neurological problem that only occurs when he debates on CNN. Because he was fine at the state of the union, fine in his pressers this week, and fine outside of edited clips shared on right wing media sites.

I do like how the story this week shifted from Biden has no idea where he is due to his demented brain, to Biden is an abusive authoritarian that his staff is terrified of displeasing.

Jul 2, 2024 21:01:53 GMT c said:

"Bernstein did not suggest he had seen the instances first hand himself."

The fact that Biden been doing like daily remarks and appears just fine seems to contradict the decline stuff.

What is likely is was sick and they pumped him full of cold medicine, which interacted with his old man meds on the debate night, basically leading to doing the debate while robotripping.  Rewatch the debate this makes a lot of sense, as it does look like he was stoned out of fucking mind for the duration of it.

Jul 2, 2024 22:24:36 GMT iron maiden said:

Jul 2, 2024 19:05:24 GMT iNCY said:

Here if you're young and want a vasectomy most doctors performing the procedure will require a letter from a mental health professional.

To the post c made, a woman can have her tubes tied, she doesn't need to have a hysterectomy for contraceptive reasons, thats like a man requesting his testicles removed for contraception reasons.

Really? I had to have my husband sign off on my tubal. That was in the 2000's by the way-I want to say 2002. For my hysterectomy (2004) they asked for him to sign too, but he was in Afghanistan and things were 'rocky' at the time, so I was able to advocate for myself. I feel like we are heading back to this. 

If I could give the benefit of the doubt to your health system I suppose asking for your husbands agreement is a way to bypass getting a mental health professional to say you are in your right mind.
No woman should need any man's approval for such a thing, I cannot believe that this would be required in todays day and age.

It is also a sign of how bizarre the world is, here they can give your daughter an abortion without telling you... I understand we live in a world where honour killings are a thing, but as a parent you have a responsibility to care to all of your children's needs.



This talking about social transitioning of trans people, not medical transitioning but it is beyond alarming the school can encourage behaviours that can lead to self-harm, suicide and irreversible consequences, not only without the consent of the parents, but no medical professionals either.

It is weird when you look at the rules around getting strerilised for contraceptive reasons and how strict the criteria is, but they hand out Testosterone to teen girls like it was candy at Halloween.

Jul 2, 2024 23:39:49 GMT c said:

Really hard to go with mental decline when he was fine an hour after the debate at the coffee shop. But people already made it up their mind so guess he just has a neurological problem that only occurs when he debates on CNN. Because he was fine at the state of the union, fine in his pressers this week, and fine outside of edited clips shared on right wing media sites.

I do like how the story this week shifted from Biden has no idea where he is due to his demented brain, to Biden is an abusive authoritarian that his staff is terrified of displeasing.

You realise that you can have decline and still have better and worse times.



The fact that something is better at some times more than others does not speak to whether or not there is a trend.
If there is a consistently deteriorating bottom point on the graph with a measure decline also in the peak, the fact that the peaks and valleys exist is not an argument to say a trend is not there.

www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/biden-says-he-nearly-fell-asleep-at-debate-blames-foreign-travel-despite-week-off-to-rest/news-story/b4f5b7cbc3c45ca92210ae26e4ed44d9

" Biden says he nearly ‘fell asleep’ at debate, blames foreign travel amid growing calls to step aside. "

Mr Biden on Tuesday claimed foreign travel left him so tuckered out that he nearly “fell asleep” during Thursday’s debate — even though he had 13 days to recover from his most recent trip abroad, including a full week at Camp David with afternoon naps.

Jul 3, 2024 1:23:35 GMT NATH45 said:

www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/biden-says-he-nearly-fell-asleep-at-debate-blames-foreign-travel-despite-week-off-to-rest/news-story/b4f5b7cbc3c45ca92210ae26e4ed44d9

" Biden says he nearly ‘fell asleep’ at debate, blames foreign travel amid growing calls to step aside. "

Mr Biden on Tuesday claimed foreign travel left him so tuckered out that he nearly “fell asleep” during Thursday’s debate — even though he had 13 days to recover from his most recent trip abroad, including a full week at Camp David with afternoon naps.

They need to stop saying anything else. It's making it worse. 

Well Biden decided to do an ABC interview Friday to address the debate.  I do imagine he fucks this up there will be a floor fight at the convention to remove him.  Does not matter how many times he does things without issue, the media loves the narrative he does no press because his mental state is so deteriorated they need to hide him.

And in a genius move picked today to announce he is against surgical gender affirming care for minors. Because clearly now is the best time to REALLY piss off the most liberal part of his base that was calling for him to be replaced. It is very American though as we move more toward all or nothing stances, rather than address nuance and leave expert decisions to the experts. Should get interesting if he moves to action as by the letter of the law in most of these orders it also blocks assigning a gender at birth. Kid born with the best of both worlds, these laws will prevent parents from allowing doctors to pick a sex and correct for it. Of course parents who really want to transition their kids can just bring them to Thailand who give absolutely no fucks. Like abortion, this does not ban things, just gates them behind cash.

Did see the hilarious suggestion that with all of this talk of Biden being too old, they replace him with Bernie to bring the progressives.  Because higher numbers are younger when it comes to age right?  And of course the response of many progressives is still they will not support anyone who believes Israel has a right to defend themselves from Hamas.

Like so close to just being done with the election.  Biden's 2024 campaign has been one of the worst since Kerry and progressives seems to only want to vote for a perfect candidate who will refuse to compromise at all if elected.  Like a dictator.  

Well solved the Biden problem. Marianne Williamson says she will replace him as the candidate. Clearly dems will be unstoppable now. Election saved.  Trump would have chance against her if they were to debate as well.  Her protective charms are too strong for her to lose.

This also clears up what happened to Biden.  Clearly he was hexed by her dark magicks.

Jul 3, 2024 3:08:13 GMT c said:

Well Biden decided to do an ABC interview Friday to address the debate.  I do imagine he fucks this up there will be a floor fight at the convention to remove him.  Does not matter how many times he does things without issue, the media loves the narrative he does no press because his mental state is so deteriorated they need to hide him.

And in a genius move picked today to announce he is against surgical gender affirming care for minors. Because clearly now is the best time to REALLY piss off the most liberal part of his base that was calling for him to be replaced. It is very American though as we move more toward all or nothing stances, rather than address nuance and leave expert decisions to the experts. Should get interesting if he moves to action as by the letter of the law in most of these orders it also blocks assigning a gender at birth. Kid born with the best of both worlds, these laws will prevent parents from allowing doctors to pick a sex and correct for it. Of course parents who really want to transition their kids can just bring them to Thailand who give absolutely no fucks. Like abortion, this does not ban things, just gates them behind cash.

Did see the hilarious suggestion that with all of this talk of Biden being too old, they replace him with Bernie to bring the progressives.  Because higher numbers are younger when it comes to age right?  And of course the response of many progressives is still they will not support anyone who believes Israel has a right to defend themselves from Hamas.

Like so close to just being done with the election.  Biden's 2024 campaign has been one of the worst since Kerry and progressives seems to only want to vote for a perfect candidate who will refuse to compromise at all if elected.  Like a dictator.  

Just about every question Biden gets is written down beforehand, he's the most protected President in the history of the USA
When was the last time he fronted a media scrum or took questions from anyone not vetted?

If you cross the Whitehouse they ban you, so everyone plays ball.

The apparent latest polling.



www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/insanity-leaked-polling-predicts-biden-bloodbath/news-story/0c86c0356f853d0d2c0a3beb05967212

Jul 3, 2024 8:49:08 GMT NATH45 said:

The apparent latest polling.



www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/insanity-leaked-polling-predicts-biden-bloodbath/news-story/0c86c0356f853d0d2c0a3beb05967212

First time I ever jerked off to the map. 

Funny that is not the map on 270toWin for polling data. Almost like a right wing rag made their dream map.

But polls are all Trump vs Biden.  No one ran polls for Trump vs Williamson.  Trump is no match for her weirding ways.

The last projected red wave didn't go as planned...

I'm sure Biden will have a tough time, probably gonna be a lot of cheating from the other side and who knows if we get Round 2 if things don't go their way. Regardless of the outcome, it's not gonna be clean and will likely be ugly for the country.