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Post by c on Jul 3, 2024 20:03:31 GMT
This could easily become a red wave depending on just how bad dems fuck up the response. Right now really only Biden suffers. He keeps fucking up or they move to replace him then it starts to look like the whole party is fucked and not just the old man.
And really for a "red wave" all GOP needs to do is take the presidency, gain 1 senate seat other than WV which we all assume is flipping, and pick up a few house seats. Will give them a mandate. They do not need mega numbers in the house if Trump can whip them to vote in lockstep. And the filibuster can be killed in the Senate if they can whipped.
Right now I think they have it too. The one thing that may stop them is abortion is on the ballot in many states, that will drive out more dems than normal.
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Post by c on Jul 3, 2024 20:38:32 GMT
GOP may have fucked themselves pushing the senile Biden stuff. Push now to get Biden to resign. That happens election becomes Trump vs Harris. And Harris is a far better candidate for 2024 than Biden is and will retain the Biden Harris campaign funds and systems. She could spin the resignation into a positive revival of the campaign as well and use it again Trump, who does many things just as senile as biden did.
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Post by KING KID on Jul 3, 2024 20:46:05 GMT
Unfortunately for you, Kamala Harris is not good at her job.
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Post by NATH45 on Jul 3, 2024 21:00:24 GMT
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Post by KING KID on Jul 3, 2024 21:32:43 GMT
Funny that is not the map on 270toWin for polling data. Almost like a right wing rag made their dream map. But polls are all Trump vs Biden. No one ran polls for Trump vs Williamson. Trump is no match for her weirding ways. Once again you are wrong. This leaked poll comes from Democratic firm OpenLabs and it leaked.
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Post by NATH45 on Jul 3, 2024 21:34:28 GMT
Funny that is not the map on 270toWin for polling data. Almost like a right wing rag made their dream map. But polls are all Trump vs Biden. No one ran polls for Trump vs Williamson. Trump is no match for her weirding ways. Once again you are wrong. This leaked poll comes from Democratic firm OpenLabs and it leaked. But was it peer reviewed...
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Post by c on Jul 3, 2024 23:36:53 GMT
Well poll is meaningless if Biden is dropping out in days.
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Post by NATH45 on Jul 4, 2024 0:06:00 GMT
Biden dropping out, probably has alot to do with the Polls.
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Post by Michinokudriver on Jul 4, 2024 0:11:05 GMT
Well Biden decided to do an ABC interview Friday to address the debate. I do imagine he fucks this up there will be a floor fight at the convention to remove him. Does not matter how many times he does things without issue, the media loves the narrative he does no press because his mental state is so deteriorated they need to hide him. And in a genius move picked today to announce he is against surgical gender affirming care for minors. Because clearly now is the best time to REALLY piss off the most liberal part of his base that was calling for him to be replaced. It is very American though as we move more toward all or nothing stances, rather than address nuance and leave expert decisions to the experts. Should get interesting if he moves to action as by the letter of the law in most of these orders it also blocks assigning a gender at birth. Kid born with the best of both worlds, these laws will prevent parents from allowing doctors to pick a sex and correct for it. Of course parents who really want to transition their kids can just bring them to Thailand who give absolutely no fucks. Like abortion, this does not ban things, just gates them behind cash. Did see the hilarious suggestion that with all of this talk of Biden being too old, they replace him with Bernie to bring the progressives. Because higher numbers are younger when it comes to age right? And of course the response of many progressives is still they will not support anyone who believes Israel has a right to defend themselves from Hamas. Like so close to just being done with the election. Biden's 2024 campaign has been one of the worst since Kerry and progressives seems to only want to vote for a perfect candidate who will refuse to compromise at all if elected. Like a dictator. Just about every question Biden gets is written down beforehand, he's the most protected President in the history of the USA When was the last time he fronted a media scrum or took questions from anyone not vetted? If you cross the Whitehouse they ban you, so everyone plays ball.
but that's like *every* POTUS
Press secretary answers media questions in the briefing room, White House reporters are known and vetted because generally you do not want randos within lunging range of the President
unless you meant something else?
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Post by Michinokudriver on Jul 4, 2024 0:15:29 GMT
also don't forget this is July, election is in November and lots of time for anything to happen before then. I'd say the same thing if Biden were leading; can't relax and assume it's all over.
Wasn't Trump losing in polls to Clinton in 2016? Or do we trust them now, months before the actual thing?
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Post by c on Jul 4, 2024 0:17:10 GMT
Trump was losing until right before the election when the margin of errors in some swing states started to overlap. He never actually lead in the polls.
And while everyone is insisting Biden is dropping out, his campaign just sent emails confirming he is not. But what would the Biden campaign know what whether or not Biden is dropping out, pundits have inside information clearly.
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Post by c on Jul 4, 2024 2:02:55 GMT
Post meeting with the Dem govs, all of the Dem govs are posting support for Biden.
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Post by rad on Jul 4, 2024 5:57:14 GMT
Yeah Biden's not dropping out unless he's dropping dead. Not surprised in the slightest.
Poopy Diaper Dementia Man vs. Christo-Fascist Funded Freedom Fart II has to be the worst main event ever.
At this point I'd be open to just giving the office to The Rock in exchange for Zoa naming rights to the White House.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2024 14:26:32 GMT
While I can't confirm Biden wears diapers, I'm pretty sure the only verified account is the Christo Facist.
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Post by KING KID on Jul 4, 2024 16:20:21 GMT
Personally I don’t want Biden dropping out. He drops out and it gives plenty of time for the DNC to pull shenanigans to steal another election.
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Post by UT on Jul 4, 2024 19:49:32 GMT
Biden remaining in the race is just a systemic failure by the Democrats.
Regardless of whether they have faith in him or not isn’t the question… it’s whether the public does or not and right now Id say that support is wavering at best and depleted at worst.
The #1 goal should be to save this country from another Trump reign, not padding personal egos and legacies. I had doubts from the beginning if he’d beat Trump again and now I’m pretty certain he’s going to lose.
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Post by KJ on Jul 5, 2024 0:25:49 GMT
Personally I don’t want Biden dropping out. He drops out and it gives plenty of time for the DNC to pull shenanigans to steal another election. Do you break from Trump rhetoric on anything?
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Post by KING KID on Jul 5, 2024 2:41:18 GMT
Biden remaining in the race is just a systemic failure by the Democrats. Regardless of whether they have faith in him or not isn’t the question… it’s whether the public does or not and right now Id say that support is wavering at best and depleted at worst. The #1 goal should be to save this country from another Trump reign, not padding personal egos and legacies. I had doubts from the beginning if he’d beat Trump again and now I’m pretty certain he’s going to lose. The problem with the left is the fact that the #1 goal for their followers/sheep is avoiding another Trump reign. Like WTF did he do to make your life harder/worse? Because I can name things Biden has done to make our lives worse.
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Post by KING KID on Jul 5, 2024 2:41:54 GMT
Biden remaining in the race is just a systemic failure by the Democrats. Regardless of whether they have faith in him or not isn’t the question… it’s whether the public does or not and right now Id say that support is wavering at best and depleted at worst. The #1 goal should be to save this country from another Trump reign, not padding personal egos and legacies. I had doubts from the beginning if he’d beat Trump again and now I’m pretty certain he’s going to lose. The problem with the left is the fact that the #1 goal for their followers/sheep is avoiding another Trump reign. Like WTF did he do to make your life harder/worse? Because I can name things Biden has done to make our lives worse. And I got receipts. From all sorts of places. Shop Rite. Stop & Shop. McDonald’s. Walmart.
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Post by KING KID on Jul 5, 2024 2:44:29 GMT
Personally I don’t want Biden dropping out. He drops out and it gives plenty of time for the DNC to pull shenanigans to steal another election. Do you break from Trump rhetoric on anything? It’s not about Trump rhetoric. Look how beautiful today is. The 4th of July. Half of the left hate the 4th of July and everything America stands for. It’s about knowing what’s right and wrong. It’s about knowing what’s best for us.
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Post by KJ on Jul 5, 2024 3:07:16 GMT
Do you break from Trump rhetoric on anything? It’s not about Trump rhetoric. Look how beautiful today is. The 4th of July. Half of the left hate the 4th of July and everything America stands for. It’s about knowing what’s right and wrong. It’s about knowing what’s best for us. That’s just a bullshit talking points that will be validated through other bullshit talking points. None of that dismisses the fact you lack a single independent thought that veers from the Trump. Or at least not one you can comfortably point to.
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Post by KING KID on Jul 5, 2024 3:14:05 GMT
It’s not about Trump rhetoric. Look how beautiful today is. The 4th of July. Half of the left hate the 4th of July and everything America stands for. It’s about knowing what’s right and wrong. It’s about knowing what’s best for us. That’s just a bullshit talking points that will be validated through other bullshit talking points. None of that dismisses the fact you lack a single independent thought that veers from the Trump. Or at least not one you can comfortably point to. I do. I guess I’m getting to that point where I can say the N word because I’m black but I can talk about ridiculous this Palestinian stuff is “comfortably” (in your words) because I’m Muslim. Is that what you’re referring to about me having my own independent ideas? The fact that I don’t think you should come into THIS country and hold up YOUR COUNTRIES FLAG and demand something out of us? Is it independent for me to say that Hamas was terrorism, but the Jews are just as bad and have left such a bad taste in Americans mouths through how they run businesses and treat their employees that this attack on them on our soil is probably based more off of how they were treated by Jewish people instead of poor Palestine. My wife’s Jewish. I guess I can right? I don’t think Israel/Palestine should be the cause of riots and protests in this country. They both can suck a cock. Again, like I asked UT, tell me what the fuck Trump did so bad for a little white St Louis boy and his family that is so much worse then what Biden and his administration has done. Answer that and try and use your own idealogy instead of Rachel Maddows talking points.
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Post by KING KID on Jul 5, 2024 3:19:49 GMT
For example.
Today Palestinian supporters were burning American flags in Manhattan on the 4th of July.
Where was the President of the United States? What are his thoughts? He has none. Instead he went out there and said a written and rehearsed speech and bumbled his way through it. Of course, conveniently, with mumbles and losing his train of thought. Coincidentally, another mishap by him to give the left another reason to replace him.
Do you know what Trump would have done? He would have made an example out of those people and spoke to his countrymen. Oh so what? Maybe he would’ve called them barbaric, but that would be offensive right? Because that’s mean and the left will turn it into “slightly racist”.
The point is, you either love this country or get the fuck out. Instead, Biden has said “love or hate us, come right in undocumented!” It’s a fucking shame.
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Post by KJ on Jul 5, 2024 3:25:02 GMT
I love that you called me “little” when I’ve got about 4 inches on your ass, and have always been bigger. 😂
I needed that.
As for the rest of your rant … nothing there was actual policy or (for the most part) rooted in reality.
I’ve said it multiple times, but I don’t support Biden or Democratic policies on immigration. Never have.
But I can’t support a government that is fixated on creating a Christian state. Where people can pick and choose who they serve or what medication/help they can get because of one person’s imaginary beliefs.
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Post by KJ on Jul 5, 2024 3:26:03 GMT
Oh, and I’ll tag in iNCY who can validate I constantly speak from a position that isn’t rooted in political ideology. You get my beliefs, not someone else’s.
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Post by KING KID on Jul 5, 2024 3:40:12 GMT
It’s all idealogy.
I’ve lived my whole life knowing size doesn’t matter. At least that’s what I’ve always told myself. -_-
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Post by KJ on Jul 5, 2024 4:00:48 GMT
It’s all idealogy. I’ve lived my whole life knowing size doesn’t matter. At least that’s what I’ve always told myself. -_- The key word was political. Of course I have my own, but it’s not parroting FOX News or CNN or Biden or Trump.
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Post by iNCY on Jul 5, 2024 6:11:21 GMT
It’s all idealogy. I’ve lived my whole life knowing size doesn’t matter. At least that’s what I’ve always told myself. -_- It's not all ideology, what you're talking about is tribalism which is hating someone just for not being your guy, while giving your own team a free pass. I'm an old bastard now and the older I get, the more right wing I'm considered, but my actual views and values haven't really shifted. It's funny as even though people said it wouldn't happen I can see in this very thread people becoming more conservative without really shifting their positions. I mean when you say borders are racist... You are moving, not the voters And yes, KJ calls it straight as do most of the Dem voters here like mikec
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Post by NATH45 on Jul 5, 2024 6:23:36 GMT
It reminds me of a video I saw, where the guys says " It's 2024, which means I'm a conservative. If it were 2004, I would be just a normal guy.. "
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Post by NATH45 on Jul 5, 2024 6:34:44 GMT
Today in Bidenville.
“ By the way, I’m proud to be, as I said, the first vice president, first black woman... to serve with a black president. Proud to be involved of the first black woman on the Supreme Court. There’s so much that we can do because, look... we’re the United States of America... ”
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