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Post by thereallt on Aug 7, 2019 3:27:14 GMT
It’s remarkable, despite the dead bodies piling up, The US’s answer is ‘ thoughts and prayers ‘ and to accept another shooting. And for anyone who needs to debate the semantics and the technicalities of what constitutes an ‘ assault rifle ‘ over the another life lost, you’re the problem. My wife and I were discussing the reality of the MCU. Gun fights in the streets and acts of terror constantly are a part of the MCU, the social, mental health and cultural impacts must be enormous considering they seem to be in a perpetual war zone. Then there was another shooting in the US, and I thought, how different is the violence in the MCU to reality. No aliens. Sorry but what constitutes "an assault rifle" does indeed need to be debated. Gun control advocates try to cast that net as wide as possible to include as many guns as possible. A more useful solution would be to look at magazine sizes.
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Post by KJ on Aug 7, 2019 3:43:14 GMT
It’s remarkable, despite the dead bodies piling up, The US’s answer is ‘ thoughts and prayers ‘ and to accept another shooting. And for anyone who needs to debate the semantics and the technicalities of what constitutes an ‘ assault rifle ‘ over the another life lost, you’re the problem. My wife and I were discussing the reality of the MCU. Gun fights in the streets and acts of terror constantly are a part of the MCU, the social, mental health and cultural impacts must be enormous considering they seem to be in a perpetual war zone. Then there was another shooting in the US, and I thought, how different is the violence in the MCU to reality. No aliens. Sorry but what constitutes "an assault rifle" does indeed need to be debated. Gun control advocates try to cast that net as wide as possible to include as many guns as possible. A more useful solution would be to look at magazine sizes. I have no problem with handguns or shot guns/rifles being owned in the country. I have a problem with automatic/semi-automatic weapons akin to military weapons being carried by citizens.
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Post by iNCY on Aug 7, 2019 5:42:13 GMT
Sorry but what constitutes "an assault rifle" does indeed need to be debated. Gun control advocates try to cast that net as wide as possible to include as many guns as possible. A more useful solution would be to look at magazine sizes. I have no problem with handguns or shot guns/rifles being owned in the country. I have a problem with automatic/semi-automatic weapons akin to military weapons being carried by citizens. Semi-automatic weapons and handguns are designed to kill people. If somebody needs an automatic weapon to hunt, the probably use those inflatable bizzos in the gutters when they bowl. There is no rational argument why anyone needs any weapon that is semi-automatic.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 7, 2019 7:53:18 GMT
It’s remarkable, despite the dead bodies piling up, The US’s answer is ‘ thoughts and prayers ‘ and to accept another shooting. And for anyone who needs to debate the semantics and the technicalities of what constitutes an ‘ assault rifle ‘ over the another life lost, you’re the problem. My wife and I were discussing the reality of the MCU. Gun fights in the streets and acts of terror constantly are a part of the MCU, the social, mental health and cultural impacts must be enormous considering they seem to be in a perpetual war zone. Then there was another shooting in the US, and I thought, how different is the violence in the MCU to reality. No aliens. Sorry but what constitutes "an assault rifle" does indeed need to be debated. Gun control advocates try to cast that net as wide as possible to include as many guns as possible. A more useful solution would be to look at magazine sizes. If I sold poison cookies to children, the response is not to limit the amount of poison cookies I sold to said children. Nor would it be to arm the parents or teachers with antidote cookies, or equally poison cookies in the event I sold said poison cookies to said children. The response is not to sell poison cookies. Nor bake them. And we would all agree, this is the right response.
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Post by KING KID on Aug 7, 2019 10:43:02 GMT
I never really cared too much about this topic, but I have to side on the: citizens shouldn’t have automatic weapons side.
I will never be against people owning guns, because that’s how you get killed or taken over by governments and I am not for that conspiracy theory coming true.
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Post by 🤯 on Aug 7, 2019 12:04:40 GMT
It’s remarkable, despite the dead bodies piling up, The US’s answer is ‘ thoughts and prayers ‘ and to accept another shooting. And for anyone who needs to debate the semantics and the technicalities of what constitutes an ‘ assault rifle ‘ over the another life lost, you’re the problem. My wife and I were discussing the reality of the MCU. Gun fights in the streets and acts of terror constantly are a part of the MCU, the social, mental health and cultural impacts must be enormous considering they seem to be in a perpetual war zone. Then there was another shooting in the US, and I thought, how different is the violence in the MCU to reality. No aliens. Sorry but what constitutes "an assault rifle" does indeed need to be debated. Gun control advocates try to cast that net as wide as possible to include as many guns as possible. A more useful solution would be to look at magazine sizes. I love guns, so this isn't meant to be at attack, but magazine size is silly too since it's pretty quick and easy to reload (especially if well practiced) so can defeat the purpose almost like how bump stocks circumvented no automatic weapons rules. And with how many magazines are already out there, I see no way of regulating the amount of magazines a person can own. I don't know what the answer is, nor do I pretend to. Part of me just honestly thinks violence is an ingrained part of being American dating back to our 1490s roots when our forefathers were killing natives.
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Post by KJ on Aug 7, 2019 12:49:23 GMT
I never really cared too much about this topic, but I have to side on the: citizens shouldn’t have automatic weapons side. I will never be against people owning guns, because that’s how you get killed or taken over by governments and I am not for that conspiracy theory coming true. Exactly. I owned At one point three weapons; and while I don’t have any currently, fully plan to own a new one to protect my home.
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Post by thereallt on Aug 7, 2019 13:55:19 GMT
I never really cared too much about this topic, but I have to side on the: citizens shouldn’t have automatic weapons side. I will never be against people owning guns, because that’s how you get killed or taken over by governments and I am not for that conspiracy theory coming true. Automatic weapons are already illegal though without a massively expensive federal license.
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Post by thereallt on Aug 7, 2019 14:06:28 GMT
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 7, 2019 23:38:22 GMT
And here we are, beginning to debate the difference....
“ it’s not an assault rifle “ said the country who has done nothing, as shootings are routinely happening. #merica
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Post by @admin on Aug 7, 2019 23:44:44 GMT
No one needs any gun honestly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 0:00:25 GMT
Ya know when it comes to guns I feel very unamerican. In my life I have fired an actual gun maybe on 3 separate occasions. When I was in Navy basic training I was shamed HARD because I was struggling removing the round and all that jazz. It was unheard of for anyone to actually answer that they hadn't used one before. I do understand the people that feel safer having them in the home for protection, but I've never had a desire to have one. Never felt unsafe out and about or any place I've lived. And I will concede complete ignorance on what I'm about to say, but having guns as a right to guard against the government just seems crazy to me. Like what kinda stockpile can someone really have that can compete with trained forces and drones? I wanna assume that's one of those instances where you go down fighting as opposed to giving in. The result's the same though...
I dunno outside of a zombie apocalypse I just can't imagine I'll ever touch a weapon in my life. And even then I'm totally a season 1 death as it is. Best case scenario is I'm a goner in the finale, but I doubt I last that long with or without bullets. Obviously the only solution is to change what we wear in public from now on. This is what I'm going to wear for my weekly grocery shopping runs.
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Post by iNCY on Aug 8, 2019 1:17:05 GMT
If you need a semi-automatic weapon to hunt, just go to the butcher.
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Post by thereallt on Aug 8, 2019 4:11:06 GMT
Ya know when it comes to guns I feel very unamerican. In my life I have fired an actual gun maybe on 3 separate occasions. When I was in Navy basic training I was shamed HARD because I was struggling removing the round and all that jazz. It was unheard of for anyone to actually answer that they hadn't used one before. I do understand the people that feel safer having them in the home for protection, but I've never had a desire to have one. Never felt unsafe out and about or any place I've lived. And I will concede complete ignorance on what I'm about to say, but having guns as a right to guard against the government just seems crazy to me. Like what kinda stockpile can someone really have that can compete with trained forces and drones? I wanna assume that's one of those instances where you go down fighting as opposed to giving in. The result's the same though...
I dunno outside of a zombie apocalypse I just can't imagine I'll ever touch a weapon in my life. And even then I'm totally a season 1 death as it is. Best case scenario is I'm a goner in the finale, but I doubt I last that long with or without bullets. Obviously the only solution is to change what we wear in public from now on. This is what I'm going to wear for my weekly grocery shopping runs.
That is your choice and I respect it. I just don't like it when others try to make that choice for me. Which is exactly what gun-grabbers do.
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Post by thereallt on Aug 8, 2019 4:36:02 GMT
If you need a semi-automatic weapon to hunt, just go to the butcher. So in other words, your argument changes from the dead wrong "semi-automatic weapons are designed for killing people" to this completely emotional based bullshit of "if you need a semi-automatic weapon to hunt, go to the butcher" All semi-auto means is one bullet is fired when you pull the trigger. The main difference between a semi-auto hunting rifle and a bolt action hunting rifle is just a little bit of convenience.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 8, 2019 5:29:46 GMT
Wow, I’m glad we cleared that up. I bet the families of the dead, sure as hell are glad we’ve cleared up those details too and sleep soundly knowing that the next mentally ill retard to pick up a gun is only picking up the safer option.
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Post by thereallt on Aug 8, 2019 5:58:54 GMT
Wow, I’m glad we cleared that up. I bet the families of the dead, sure as hell are glad we’ve cleared up those details too and sleep soundly knowing that the next mentally ill retard to pick up a gun is only picking up the safer option.
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Post by iNCY on Aug 8, 2019 7:13:21 GMT
If you need a semi-automatic weapon to hunt, just go to the butcher. So in other words, your argument changes from the dead wrong "semi-automatic weapons are designed for killing people" to this completely emotional based bullshit of "if you need a semi-automatic weapon to hunt, go to the butcher" All semi-auto means is one bullet is fired when you pull the trigger. The main difference between a semi-auto hunting rifle and a bolt action hunting rifle is just a little bit of convenience. Sorry, I wasn't aware that I had to choose my words in such a way as to not confuse retards.  My response was emotional? Anyway, Let me put it clearer for you. The only reason someone would NEED a Semi-Automatic weapon is for killing people. If you are too retarded to shoot straight the first time you may want a semi-automatic weapon, but we shouldn't build laws around the wants of the fundamentally stupid and incompetent.
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Post by NATH45 on Aug 8, 2019 7:45:59 GMT
Wow, I’m glad we cleared that up. I bet the families of the dead, sure as hell are glad we’ve cleared up those details too and sleep soundly knowing that the next mentally ill retard to pick up a gun is only picking up the safer option. I’m not wasting my time watching what I assume is a smug pseudo intellectual reassuring his redundant view point, that the rest of the western world sees as little more than retarded.
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Post by thereallt on Aug 8, 2019 10:38:02 GMT
So in other words, your argument changes from the dead wrong "semi-automatic weapons are designed for killing people" to this completely emotional based bullshit of "if you need a semi-automatic weapon to hunt, go to the butcher" All semi-auto means is one bullet is fired when you pull the trigger. The main difference between a semi-auto hunting rifle and a bolt action hunting rifle is just a little bit of convenience. Sorry, I wasn't aware that I had to choose my words in such a way as to not confuse retards. My response was emotional? Anyway, Let me put it clearer for you. The only reason someone would NEED a Semi-Automatic weapon is for killing people. If you are too retarded to shoot straight the first time you may want a semi-automatic weapon, but we shouldn't build laws around the wants of the fundamentally stupid and incompetent. And who the fuck are you to determine what I need and don't need? If I prefer a semi-automatic HUNTING rifle that's my damn business. Especially considering the damn thing only holds 5 rounds tops.
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Post by 🤯 on Aug 8, 2019 12:05:12 GMT
I’m not wasting my time watching what I assume is a smug pseudo intellectual reassuring his redundant view point, that the rest of the western world sees as little more than retarded. Did someone say pseudo intellectual!? Lionheart, get in here!
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Post by 🤯 on Aug 8, 2019 12:08:37 GMT
No one needs any gun honestly. But what if I wanted to shoot something!? -_- I'll concede this: no one needs a gun if they don't also have the capacity to train. Guns without any training are probably responsible for most non-military action-related deaths by gunfire. Ignorance, negligence, and cavalier-ness are dangerous r in and of themselves. Together, they're a cocktail for clusterfuckery.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 12:14:21 GMT
On one hand I dunno why you'd need an automatic for hunting. On the other what if you're in Alaska and wolverines keep attacking your cousins?
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Post by iNCY on Aug 8, 2019 12:47:12 GMT
Sorry, I wasn't aware that I had to choose my words in such a way as to not confuse retards. My response was emotional? Anyway, Let me put it clearer for you. The only reason someone would NEED a Semi-Automatic weapon is for killing people. If you are too retarded to shoot straight the first time you may want a semi-automatic weapon, but we shouldn't build laws around the wants of the fundamentally stupid and incompetent. And who the fuck are you to determine what I need and don't need? If I prefer a semi-automatic HUNTING rifle that's my damn business. Especially considering the damn thing only holds 5 rounds tops. If you want to stand naked outside a preschool and fondle your balls, is that only your business?
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Post by 🤯 on Aug 8, 2019 13:46:18 GMT
And who the fuck are you to determine what I need and don't need? If I prefer a semi-automatic HUNTING rifle that's my damn business. Especially considering the damn thing only holds 5 rounds tops. If you want to stand naked outside a preschool and fondle your balls, is that only your business? I don't get the correlation on this one...?
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Post by KING KID on Aug 8, 2019 18:19:04 GMT
What if the pre-school is technically closed because it's midnight or summer?
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Post by RT on Aug 8, 2019 20:42:41 GMT
What if the pre-school is technically closed because it's midnight or summer? Then you better hope the janitor likes what he sees or the cops are still coming.
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Post by Michinokudriver on Aug 8, 2019 20:46:50 GMT
Ya know when it comes to guns I feel very unamerican. In my life I have fired an actual gun maybe on 3 separate occasions. When I was in Navy basic training I was shamed HARD because I was struggling removing the round and all that jazz. It was unheard of for anyone to actually answer that they hadn't used one before. I do understand the people that feel safer having them in the home for protection, but I've never had a desire to have one. Never felt unsafe out and about or any place I've lived. And I will concede complete ignorance on what I'm about to say, but having guns as a right to guard against the government just seems crazy to me. Like what kinda stockpile can someone really have that can compete with trained forces and drones? I wanna assume that's one of those instances where you go down fighting as opposed to giving in. The result's the same though...
I dunno outside of a zombie apocalypse I just can't imagine I'll ever touch a weapon in my life. And even then I'm totally a season 1 death as it is. Best case scenario is I'm a goner in the finale, but I doubt I last that long with or without bullets. Obviously the only solution is to change what we wear in public from now on. This is what I'm going to wear for my weekly grocery shopping runs.
I mean, the general thinking is that it's not one person against the government but like half the population. Or maybe even as little as a tenth of the populace, with the rest staying neutral and a sizable percentage of the military disobeying orders to shoot fellow Americans.
I've been a pro-gun person for yeeeears now, but stories like this really made me call into question even the "semi-automatics are too much" gun control line of thinking:
Just imagine.
She went upstairs and he followed.
She hid in a crawl space with her kids and he just kept following and opened the door.
She shot him five times and he still kept moving. What if, instead of running away, he realized she was out of bullets? What if he wasn't simply a burglar but intent on harm?
...but then even if she's the most responsible of gun owners, what if ten years from now one of her kids goes crazy and manages to break into the gun safe? That can happen too.
I dunno. The more I think about it, the more I come to the sad realization that as long as we allow people to own guns of any kind -- which I do support -- mass shootings are as inevitable as car drivers hitting and killing people. You can take steps to minimize it, yes, but at some point you've made the world as safe as you can and what's left is what's left. There will never be zero car crashes. The Vegas shooter would have passed every background and mental health check you could put on him. I don't remember for sure but I think the Virginia Beach shooter was the same way; you would have no idea he would even think of doing something like this.
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Post by Michinokudriver on Aug 8, 2019 20:47:38 GMT
On one hand I dunno why you'd need an automatic for hunting. On the other what if you're in Alaska and wolverines keep attacking your cousins? Maybe tell your cousins to stop wearing raw steaks when they go for their daily constitutionals?
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Post by thereallt on Aug 8, 2019 21:42:03 GMT
On one hand I dunno why you'd need an automatic for hunting. On the other what if you're in Alaska and wolverines keep attacking your cousins? *Sigh* Once again automatic weapons ARE ALREADY ILLEGAL. Unless you're willing to shell out a $1000 every year along with having the ATF comb through life with a fine-tooth comb AND be up your ass for regular inspections.
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