Kittle is the best offensive non-QB in the league for me. His contribution is enormous. Receptions, blocking, YAC. Just an absolute monster.

JUST TO CLARIFY:

1a- George Kittle
1b- Travis Kelce
3- Zack Ertz
4- Darren Waller


5 is up for debate. What do you guys think the top 5 TEs in the NFL are? Hunter Henry? Mark Andrews? Austin Hooper? Do those 3 belong? Am I overhyping Waller? 

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I'd probably take Andrews from that second group. He had the best receiving numbers of all tight ends in the slot last season.

I'm also predicting that we see Goedert increasingly taking over from Ertz as the main guy in Philly this season. His role increased steadily last season, and at this stage he looks more dynamic than Ertz to me (admittedly he was banged up down the stretch).

All I know is that I definitely agree that George Kittle is the #1 TE in the league. I was already a gigantic fan of the guy for how big of a wrestling mark he is (ditching a press conference so he could make it in time for a WWE pay-per-view; fuck yeah!) but upon watching more film reviews, it's a no-brainer. He's worth every bit of that contract.

Kelce is easily 2, and then after that it gets a little hazier for me other than Ertz definitely belonging somewhere in the Top 5. I admittedly haven't watched enough of Darren Waller's highlights to have an adequate enough opinion. I love this topic though; TE has always been my favorite offensive position. 

EDIT: Watching some more footage of Waller now. Thoughts so far: not explosive in his speed but an extremely physical and smart player from what I can tell. DOUBLE EDIT: Big time rooting for this guy. He's the Great-Grandson of Fats Waller!?!? That's fucking cool. I didn't watch the Hard Knocks with the Raiders but I remember hearing about him constantly getting suspended in the past. 

Aug 14, 2020 4:33:46 GMT rad said:

All I know is that I definitely agree that George Kittle is the #1 TE in the league. I was already a gigantic fan of the guy for how big of a wrestling mark he is (ditching a press conference so he could make it in time for a WWE pay-per-view; fuck yeah!) but upon watching more film reviews, it's a no-brainer. He's worth every bit of that contract.

Kelce is easily 2, and then after that it gets a little hazier for me other than Ertz definitely belonging somewhere in the Top 5. I admittedly haven't watched enough of Darren Waller's highlights to have an adequate enough opinion. I love this topic though; TE has always been my favorite offensive position. 

EDIT: Watching some more footage of Waller now. Thoughts so far: not explosive in his speed but an extremely physical and smart player from what I can tell. DOUBLE EDIT: Big time rooting for this guy. He's the Great-Grandson of Fats Waller!?!? That's fucking cool. I didn't watch the Hard Knocks with the Raiders but I remember hearing about him constantly getting suspended in the past. 

Darren Waller is also a recovering addict who was given a chance by Gruden because Gruden saw something in him. The dude is huge, too and can make contested catches. I love Waller and Jacobs. The Raiders are secretly one of my favorite teams coming into this season. I can see them taking a Wildcard spot.

My Top 5 TE
Travis Kelce 
George Kittle 
Mark Andrews 
Darren Waller
Zach Ertz 

I pretty much agree with the consensus here on the TE's picked. I have them in this order.

1.George Kittle
2.Travis Kelce
3.Zach Ertz (provided he's healthy)
4.Darren Waller
5.Mark Andrews.


If Daniel Jones takes the next step as a QB I can easily see Evan Engram making his way on to this list.  The sheer talent is there.   

Everson Griffin addition is massive with the loss of McCoy for the whole year.

Aug 18, 2020 1:17:04 GMT Blindy said:

Everson Griffin addition is massive with the loss of McCoy for the whole year.

Injuries are going to be such a difference maker with shortened training camp and no preseason - depth has never been more important. Players are already dropping like flies on the first day of padded practice: 

Pretty bum about Jalen Hurd he is one of the players I was excited to see with his versatility what Kyle Shanahan have in store with the offense now have to wait for another season but the bright side may give Jauan Jenni gs chance to nit make the team but also he could contribute.

Wide receiver has to be the first area you'd point to if you agreed with KING KID's thought that the 49ers might be yet another team to suffer a Super Bowl hangover. Their offence really only started clicking in top gear when they acquired Manny Sanders midseason, and I don't see anyone in his mould on the roster. I believe in Shanahan's ability to scheme guys open but I'd be worried about the talent level.

Aug 18, 2020 4:42:21 GMT @admin said:

Wide receiver has to be the first area you'd point to if you agreed with KING KID 's thought that the 49ers might be yet another team to suffer a Super Bowl hangover. Their offence really only started clicking in top gear when they acquired Manny Sanders midseason, and I don't see anyone in his mould on the roster. I believe in Shanahan's ability to scheme guys open but I'd be worried about the talent level.

49ers current wide receiver and even last season before they acquired Sanders are young, & inexperienced. As you stated acquired Sanders midsession the offense start clicking especially the passing game he knows the offense and his experience helps on the field and even help the Niners young WRS especially mainly Deebo and Bourne. Now with no Aandwrs and probably with out Deebo until maybe in October the latest it is going to be somewhat challenge for the current group at the WR position but the bright side give guys like Ayiuk a opportunity to come in early.

The biggest concern I do have is not the WR it’s the interior o-lime at C and RG specifically

However o am probably off bias but I go out if the limb and predict Niners return to the postseason. Keep in mind NFL is starting the new playoffs format for this postseason which potentially could benefit the Niners just saying.

Interesting to note that the Cowboys team doctor is a leg injury specialist - he did both Jaylon Smith's and Teddy Bridgewater's knee surgery when there were doubts if they would ever be able to play again, and also did Eden Hazard's after he broke his fibula as part of the work he does with Real Madrid.

Aug 18, 2020 5:12:20 GMT pduh said:

Aug 18, 2020 4:42:21 GMT @admin said:

Wide receiver has to be the first area you'd point to if you agreed with KING KID 's thought that the 49ers might be yet another team to suffer a Super Bowl hangover. Their offence really only started clicking in top gear when they acquired Manny Sanders midseason, and I don't see anyone in his mould on the roster. I believe in Shanahan's ability to scheme guys open but I'd be worried about the talent level.

49ers current wide receiver and even last season before they acquired Sanders are young, & inexperienced. As you stated acquired Sanders midsession the offense start clicking especially the passing game he knows the offense and his experience helps on the field and even help the Niners young WRS especially mainly Deebo and Bourne. Now with no Aandwrs and probably with out Deebo until maybe in October the latest it is going to be somewhat challenge for the current group at the WR position but the bright side give guys like Ayiuk a opportunity to come in early.

The biggest concern I do have is not the WR it’s the interior o-lime at C and RG specifically

However o am probably off bias but I go out if the limb and predict Niners return to the postseason. Keep in mind NFL is starting the new playoffs format for this postseason which potentially could benefit the Niners just saying.

Yeah and are we even sure that Deebo is going to be 100%? 

That offense is going to be Kittle and running backs all season. 

Is the 9th seed playoff rule in effect this season?

If so, I still don’t think SF gets it. 

Aug 19, 2020 0:49:44 GMT KING KID said:

Aug 18, 2020 5:12:20 GMT pduh said:

49ers current wide receiver and even last season before they acquired Sanders are young, & inexperienced. As you stated acquired Sanders midsession the offense start clicking especially the passing game he knows the offense and his experience helps on the field and even help the Niners young WRS especially mainly Deebo and Bourne. Now with no Aandwrs and probably with out Deebo until maybe in October the latest it is going to be somewhat challenge for the current group at the WR position but the bright side give guys like Ayiuk a opportunity to come in early.

The biggest concern I do have is not the WR it’s the interior o-lime at C and RG specifically

However o am probably off bias but I go out if the limb and predict Niners return to the postseason. Keep in mind NFL is starting the new playoffs format for this postseason which potentially could benefit the Niners just saying.

Yeah and are we even sure that Deebo is going to be 100%? 

That offense is going to be Kittle and running backs all season. 

Is the 9th seed playoff rule in effect this season?

If so, I still don’t think SF gets it. 

While I am no doctor the injury that Deebo have which is a Jones fracture which these type of injury usually take 6-8 weeks to recovery but it can take up to 12 weeks.  Obvious it won’t heal if the person who have these type of injury don’t get surgery which Deebo did get surgery as long he doesn’t rush I think he will be ok and should be good to go maybe October.

Yeah I just find out just from the other day 9th seed is in effect this season. 

Wow. Two females have come out publicly now saying Derrius Guice raped them at LSU.

They never reported it when it happened but this just got real ugly for Guice. His NFL careers over.

Surprised and disappointed that Cole McDonald has been released by the Titans (they signed Trevor Siemian in the corresponding move). I was hoping that he might be able to have a bit more of an NFL career than Colt Brennan did because he's a thrill to watch in the Jameis Winston style, but this obviously doesn't bode well.

Reports saying Tony Khan slayer Yannick Ngakoue is about to be traded. Maybe to Baltimore. Maybe to Minnesota. Maybe to Las Vegas. Maybe to the NY Jets?!?! Anywhere but Jacksonville.

Who knows, either way, if he's happy and got his contract, he's a killer pass rusher.

Aug 20, 2020 2:02:38 GMT Blindy said:

Reports saying Tony Khan slayer Yannick Ngakoue is about to be traded. Maybe to Baltimore. Maybe to Minnesota. Maybe to Las Vegas. Maybe to the NY Jets?!?! Anywhere but Jacksonville.

Who knows, either way, if he's happy and got his contract, he's a killer pass rusher.

As long he is not traded to Seattle nor anyone else from NFC west I’m good 

Doesn't seem like there's really any basis behind it - Michael Lombardi (who is a bit of a clown, let's be honest) got fooled by a fake Adam Schefter twitter.

I don't see why you'd part with a high draft pick when Clowney is available for a similar amount.

What do you guys think of Clyde Edwards-Helaire?

Is he the next Kareem Hunt? He’s ranked #6 in Yahoo drafts for fantasy ahead of Dalvin Cook! Do you guys think he’s going to be a superstar right off the bat?

My big money draft is coming 2 weeks from today so I want to hear peoples take on him in case I get a draft pick of 6+.

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Think he is the primary back for yards but worried he might get screwed for TDs by Maholmes trying for the MVP and them going pass, pass, pass in the red zone.

Aug 23, 2020 1:38:10 GMT Blindy said:

Think he is the primary back for yards but worried he might get screwed for TDs by Maholmes trying for the MVP and them going pass, pass, pass in the red zone.

I don’t know much about him from college. Who is he comparable to?

I think the Chiefs are going to break every offensive record this season so I’m sure everyone on that roster will eat.

He'll be very productive but might be getting slightly over projected fantasy wise at the moment. I think people are underestimating how much of a role DeAndre Washington will have, and Darrel Williams might be in the goal line picture (4 TDs last season) that Blindy was talking about. With that said you can be sceptical about the guys around him (Cook's injury history and Henry's lack of receiving/overall regression) and he does have a potentially very high ceiling.

Player comps I've seen for CEH are Brian Westbrook and Devonta Freeman. He's short (basically no one his height takes a huge carry load in the NFL) but stout.

I think he’s being a tad overhyped , he’ll be good and have some monster plays but my brother in law took him 2nd overall IN A NON PPR league last night and I seen him go for 53 bucks in a PPR auction. Aaron Jones went for 27 in that same league and guys like Henry were in the low 40s.

So yeah I’d like him at the right spot but he isn’t going to last long at all in most drafts.

My league is full PPR/Double FLEX.

So people get wild with drafting RBs all the time. I think CEH might go after CMC, Barkley, Zeke and Kamara. I can see someone in my league snatching him before Dalvin (which I wouldn’t) and Henry.

I think I’m going to pass on him if I have a pick and he’s there. I’m focused on getting Josh Jacobs anywhere after the top 5 picks. Jacobs over CEH and Henry for me. I’ll even take him over Michael Thomas just because like I said people love their RBs.

Hopefully I don’t have to make that decision and I get a top 5 pick.

Aug 23, 2020 16:29:04 GMT UT said:

I think he’s being a tad overhyped , he’ll be good and have some monster plays but my brother in law took him 2nd overall IN A NON PPR league last night and I seen him go for 53 bucks in a PPR auction. Aaron Jones went for 27 in that same league and guys like Henry were in the low 40s.

So yeah I’d like him at the right spot but he isn’t going to last long at all in most drafts.

Ask your brother in law if he wants to join my big money league. I’ll give him 2nd overall pick too lol. 

All jokes aside, I have seen a lot of people down on Aaron Jones coming into this season whereas the last two seasons the ‘fantasy experts’ have been all for him even screaming “FREE JONES”. I don’t know how I feel about having him on my team this season either to be honest. I’m sure he’ll eclipse 1100 yards rushing but I don’t know if I feel he will match last seasons production. 

Another thing I want to touch on for my big money league and I’m sure it equates to other people’s home leagues.

I play with all New Yorkers so guys like Bell will not make it to the 3rd round like his ADP. Bell will probably be a second round pick with all the Jets fans in my league. The Barkley/CMC top pick will be interesting too in my league since Barkley is a Giant and 11/12 of the people in my league happen to be white which favors CMC.

Do you guys have a lot of hometown bias in your drafts or is it all professional?

I think CEH will be great for PPR, but I wouldn’t pick him too early otherwise.