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Post by Ness on Nov 28, 2021 21:20:20 GMT
So I know next to nothing about Dr. Who other than it being a long-running brit show and they explain new actors with regeneration (only know this thanks to shimmer c). HBO Max has all the, I believe "modern" seasons and figured I'd watch the first Tennent season and see if it grabs me. When I was watching Loki I had this faint wonder if that's what happens... maybe villain of the week in various timelines with an overarching big bad to cap things off? Sorta like LOT, although I guess it would be the other way around.
Saw a youtube clip of I guess Tennent meeting the next doctor. Not sure of the context. Maybe he was guest starring during one of Ryan's seasons, who knows. Was only a 5 minute clip, but it was entertaining enough. Not sure if 40 minutes of that would be too much because I could see it getting obnoxious. Obviously I assume most episodes is just one doctor so the personality overload isn't there.
Still what is it even really about and why do people love it so? I know there was an all-encompassing thread made here, but ya know I can't be bothered to hit next page or search...
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Post by 🤯 on Nov 28, 2021 21:38:56 GMT
Sounds like a job for the Baker-man.
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Post by Emperor on Nov 28, 2021 22:10:22 GMT
Don't waste your time.
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Sorry, I'm just not cut out for sales.
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Post by 🤯 on Nov 28, 2021 22:17:41 GMT
Coincidentally, Dr. Emperor does a great sales job for Dr. No. Check out his writeup in the review thread!
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Post by Ness on Nov 29, 2021 1:09:43 GMT
Coincidentally, Dr. Emperor does a great sales job for Dr. No. Check out his writeup in the review thread! He sold me the pros of heel Reigns and Jay White as well, which is a feat considered how dead wrestling is to me the past few years. When he cares about something he's Ricky Morton in this piece. Or is it Bobby Eaton? For the selling.
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Post by Baker on Nov 29, 2021 1:42:31 GMT
Thanks for the vote of confidence 🤯 but I don't think I'm the guy to do it. Feel like Classic Who, which is my jam (well, at least the first three Doctors), is something you had to up grow with. Just can't see somebody Ness age getting into it as a first time viewer here in the year 2021 on anything other than an ironic level. It's very much a product of its time- the 60s and 70s (we don't talk about 80s Who). Even peak Who is honestly just a glorified children's show filmed on a shoestring budget with lots and lots of padding. And I'm the last person in the world to sell anybody on Nu Who, which I hate with a passion. It was very popular though! And I'm pretty sure iNCY is/was a fan? Maybe he'll be the go to guy in this thread. Best advice I can give is to just plunge in with the first season of Nu Who starring Christopher Eccleston and keep going from there if you enjoy it. It's newbie friendly due to being the first Dr. Who series on television in 16 years and it's not as dated as my beloved Classic Who. EDIT: Didn't actually read Nessies OP until now lol. I'll see if I can find my "Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Doctor Who" post(s) and C&P them over here.
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Post by iNCY on Nov 29, 2021 1:49:58 GMT
Thanks for the vote of confidence 🤯 but I don't think I'm the guy to do it. Feel like Classic Who, which is my jam (well, at least the first three Doctors), is something you had to up grow with. Just can't see somebody Ness age getting into it as a first time viewer here in the year 2021 on anything other than an ironic level. It's very much a product of its time- the 60s and 70s (we don't about 80s Who). Even peak Who is honestly just a glorified children's show filmed on a shoestring budget with lots and lots of padding. And I'm the last person in the world to sell anybody on Nu Who, which I hate with a passion. It was very popular though! And I'm pretty sure iNCY is/was a fan? Maybe he'll be the go to guy in this thread. Best advice I can give is to just plunge in with the first season of Nu Who starring Christopher Eccleston. It's newbie friendly due to being the first Dr. Who series on television in 16 years and it's not as dated as my beloved Classic Who. EDIT: Didn't actually read Nessies OP until now lol. I'll see if I can find my "Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Doctor Who" series of posts and C&P them over here. I grew up watching Dr Who, the Daleks are still the greatest Sci Fi villains of all time. The Tenant run is probably a good place to jump on. Smith is also great. I soured a bit on Capaldi, he was brilliant but the writing was average. Now I have zero interest in watching with a female Doctor... Makes me so mad they did that. In the Tenant run there is a thread that runs through all the season and a mix of bad guys from space episodes and historical episodes, I prefer the space ones. Maybe the Smith run is a good place to jump on too if you wanted to.
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Post by Baker on Nov 29, 2021 3:06:55 GMT
I'll see if I can find my "Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Doctor Who" post(s) and C&P them over here. Found it.
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Post by Ness on Nov 29, 2021 21:00:03 GMT
I'm a chav.
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Post by c on Nov 30, 2021 5:31:24 GMT
I never saw Dr Who as a Kid and got into with Matt Smith. During a break I was told to at least go back to the start of the reboot and do the Eccleston and Tennant runs which I both loved. Stayed on until Whittaker, and while I love her as Doctor, the writing was utter shit. If this season goes well I will catch up.
Classic Who I cannot really get that into, but I really do not like older television that much at all. Also it annoys me to have to start in the middle of stories, so even after a regeneration feel like I am missing out. The long break and reboot into the 9th helped me get into it.
Why advice for people wanting to get into it, is start with the reboot and Eccleston. This is a modern take on the Doctor and assumes no knowledge from the past. Show from here introduces the classic villains one by one and starts to get into the mythology of who the Doctor is.
For the show itself, it is generally a villain of the week show. The Doctor and his team investigate a problem and solve it, while undercovering hints towards a bigger thing going on for the season. So in the rebooted first season, The Doctor meets Rose and they travel around dealing with various things while the words Bad Wolf keep appearing. At the start of this season the Doctor has been traveling alone for a long time so his humanity and compassion have been waning and he is kind of an asshole. Rose helps him become aware of how much he had changed.
IMO, from what I seen, the Rose and Doctor arc is one of the best arcs in the show and on TV in general. It is one of the greatest love stories. Plays out over several seasons of Doctor Who. This is the reason I would watch. Once this fully wraps up, the doctor regenerates and you get into the Doctor and Amy Pond story which is almost as good.
The old Doctor Who stuff has great moments as well, such as Baker's run as the fourth doctor, but not really for me. Sarah Jane and K9 from this era appear in the reboot though which was a lot of fun.
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Post by c on Nov 30, 2021 5:36:22 GMT
For new Who start with Eccleston as his story is tied deeply to Tenants. Usually a new Doctor means a fresh story but this was not the case here.
For classic I am not your guy at all. I still need to watch it, as only seen bits and pieces.
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Post by Baker on Nov 30, 2021 6:00:12 GMT
Haven't heard that term in a while. Are chavs still a thing? Emperor? Anybody? For classic I am not your guy at all. I still need to watch it, as only seen bits and pieces. If interested, I'd recommend starting with Pertwee (my favorite doctor) and going from there. His first season (S7 overall) is widely considered one of the two peaks of classic Doctor Who, which makes it a good barometer. If you don't like those four serials, classic Doctor Who probably isn't going to be for you. I'm a big fan of the first two Doctors, Hartnell & Troughton, as well, but their eras can be a frustrating watch due to all the missing episodes. Plus being in black & white makes it a tough sell for a lot of people here in the year 2021.
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Post by c on Nov 30, 2021 6:06:30 GMT
Yeah that is my problem really, is the missing episodes or when streaming companies get stuff they like get parts of the series and not other parts, so it is hard to watch in chron order and everything is like disjointed. Not looked in a while though to see if this was ever fixed up.
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Post by Baker on Dec 1, 2021 0:46:12 GMT
Yeah that is my problem really, is the missing episodes or when streaming companies get stuff they like get parts of the series and not other parts, so it is hard to watch in chron order and everything is like disjointed. Not looked in a while though to see if this was ever fixed up. Only the first two Doctors suffer from missing episodes. Everything from #3 Jon Pertwee on has been preserved. No idea what is or isn't available on the streaming services though.
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Post by Michinokudriver on Dec 1, 2021 2:23:11 GMT
To add on to Baker 's epic-length post, and a 'from the beginning' sort of thing -- full disclaimer: this is the history of Who as I understand it, and I can't pretend I'm an expert. Doctor Who was originally envisioned as a kids' show to run along the same lines as Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers and Doctor Who. (This week we're exploring the ancient Mayan civilization, next week it'll be the time the gang met Mark Twain!) Fast forward a few years, and the actor playing the Doctor wants out. He's starting to get up there in years, he's having disagreements with the new writing team and is just so over dealing with all this. But the team isn't ready to end the show, so the decision is made to cast a new Doctor. Let's kill off the old guy, but just say instead of dying his body reincarnates into a new one. It's a show for children, it doesn't have to make sense.
The second actor decided to make the role his own. If he just tried to play the character exactly like William Hartnell did, then he'll only be remembered as a Hartnell ripoff. But he'll dress differently, he'll talk and act differently and bring his own flair/spin to the role. Instead of the original grumpy yet kindly grandpa, he's a 45-year-old cosmic hobo who acts like a buffoon to get his enemies to underestimate him. This is why fans have favorite Doctors (I'd assume normally whichever one you start watching), as each actor has their own take on the character. It's like, do you like James Bond, hardcore superspy who sneaks into a mansion or slick, smooth talking James Bond who charms his way through the front gate? Relies on gadgets or no-gimmicks-needed? It's all Bond, just different aspects. And I'm guessing Ness watched the charity special where the 10th doctor met the 5th, which (1) was basically a markout moment for David Tennant, who grew up as a fan of Doctor Who and had a chance to share the screen with his childhood hero and (2) is a primer for Steven Moffat's tenure as showrunner/lead writer, who loves doing time travel trickery.
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Post by Baker on Dec 1, 2021 3:07:23 GMT
Excellent post from Michinokudriver . I'm going to take an alternate guess on the episode Ness watched though. Going with the one where the villain of the week called Rose a chav. And just to be a pedantic asshole, the original idea was to flip flop 'historical/educational' episodes with 'far out sci fi' ones. That idea was scrapped within a few years when the 'far out sci fi' ones proved to be a bigger draw than the historicals. To piggyback on MD's post, here is another long-winded post I made covering all the Doctors I've seen with some episode recommendations... {Spoiler} 11. Doctor Who- Yeah. That's right. I literally watched Doctor Who in my parents basement on Friday & Saturday nights LIKE A NERD (happy JTJ ) while America boozed and the fire department showed dirty movies. No regrets! I have a complicated relationship with Doctor Who which is best summed up by this gif... Doctor Who is the show I was most excited to write about. I have stories for years. There's even a chance I'll come back later and really go all out with the storytimes. If so, I will spoiler tag it to protect the innocents from hitherto unfathomable levels of nerdery. And also so I don't clutter up this thread too much. Doctor Who is the oldest show on my list by a good 7-8 years. Discovered it on PBS by accident in late 1996 while waiting for AWF (Where We Wrestle In Rounds!) to come on at 2 a.m. The first episode I ever saw was a confusing mess called The Five Doctors. My associates and I found it unintentionally hilarious. Rarely have I ever laughed harder. So I started watching it on occasion in an ironic "so bad it's good" kind of way. But it wasn't long before I realized Doctor Who was actually good. I soon got hooked for real. Love the first three Doctors, with the 3rd, Jon Pertwee, being my all time favorite. The Pertwee Years were also my favorite Doctor Who era. They featured my favorite companion in Jo Grant and favorite recurring villain in the Roger Delgado Master. Not gonna lie. I may have had something in my eye when Jo Grant left the Doctor for that stupid scientist guy at the end of The Green Death. And I definitely had something in my eye when Pertwee regenerated at the end of Planet of the Spiders. Goodnight, sweet prince Quick recap of Doctor Who's glory years... First Doctor (William Hartnell)- Some of the most experimental stuff ever put on tv. They were making it up as they went along but in the best possible way. I love how they just went for it. This show had ambition. There's a charm to these episodes in spite of (or because of?) the £2 budget they were allotted by the then-notoriously stingy BBC. This cranky old Doctor was different than all who would follow by being of more an antihero. He was even a straight up jerk at times. His companions were a mixed bag with Ian & Barbara being top tier, "Screaming" Susan being awful, and the rest being just there. Recommended Episodes*: The Web Planet is art. The Romans and The Gunfighters are hilarious. Also enjoyed a couple of the Dalek stories like the one where they want to turn Earth into a giant spaceship(!) and the original Cybermen episode if only for those gloRIous SINGsong voiCES. *Similar to wrestling in that I like a lot of stuff which is loathed by most of the hardcore fanbase and vice versa. So take these recommendations with a grain of salt. Second Doctor (Patrick Troughton)- This is where Doctor Who really developed the winning formula which, for better or worse, would carry it through the next half century. The Doctor is now firmly established as a traditional hero who goes around saving worlds and making friends along the way. "The Cosmic Hobo" Patrick Troughton is my second favorite Doctor. A lot of the later Doctors could learn a thing or two about selling from this chap. "The Fighting Scot" Jamie McCrimmon is my 2nd favorite companion while Victoria Waterfield is my choice for the hottest. Futuristic genius Zoe also warrants a mention on that front for her sparkly skintight catsuit in The Mind Robber. Jamie & Troughton's Doctor had great chemistry. Recommended Episode: There are other good ones but The War Games stands head and shoulders above the rest. And I'm not just talking about the Troughton Era either. The War Games is my choice for GOAT Doctor Who episode, period. It's also among the most important serials in the show's history for finally establishing The Doctor's backstory. Check it out. The Mind Robber also deserves a mention for reaching almost Web Planet levels of surrealism. Third Doctor (Jon Pertwee)- They say every Whovian has "their Doctor." Well, Jon Pertwee is my Doctor. He's a 50 year old dandy with gloriously poofy hair who also happens to be a man of action as best exemplified by his mastery of Venusian karate. Charisma Level: Unparalleled. Liz Shaw and Sarah Jane Smith were decent companions, but they must bow to the greatness of adorable escapology expert Jo Grant. Jo is my favorite companion and for my money the most loyal ally The Doctor ever had. She saves the universe once or twice just through her sheer love of The Doctor. What a gal! Jo running off to South America with that drippy hippy scientist guy was tragic. Only thing worse was Pertwee's regeneration in Planet of the Spiders. What a gut punch that was. Doctor Who was never the same for me after Pertwee. The Pertwee Years also saw the debut of The Doctor's arch-nemesis, The Master. The Master was played here to suave perfection by the great Roger Delgado. Hart/Austin. Flair/Funk. Lawler/Dundee. Doctor/Master. Yep. It's that good. Loved their banter. Loved all The Master's admittedly increasingly daft schemes. Business always picked up when The Master showed up (usually towards the end of Third Doctor stories). He rivaled Pertwee in charisma and few things in Whoviana are better than watching those two greats chew the scenery with their quality banter. Also loved the UNIT Family of The Brigadier, Mike Yates, and John Benton. Loved how they had a regular babyface character in Yates turn heel. But they didn't just stop there! They brought him back for a redemption story of sorts. That was deep storytelling for 1997, let alone the early 70s when these episodes originally aired. The Pertwee Era also marked a radical departure from what had come before. For starters, the Pertwee Years were the first to be in colour. Hartnell & Troughton episodes were strictly black & white. Pertwee's Doctor was also stranded on Earth (at least for his first few seasons) in a cost cutting measure by the notoriously cheap BBC. Every single Pertwee episode is available for your viewing pleasure. Unfortunately, a not insignificant amount of Hartnell & Troughton episodes have been lost forever due to more cost cutting measures by a BBC which didn't have the foresight to save the tapes. The fact that every Pertwee episode still exists and are all in colour makes it the ideal starting point for anybody wanting to get into Classic Doctor Who. As much as I like the first two Doctors, all those missing episodes are a real kick in the pants, and the fact that it's in black & white may be a tough sell for a lot of folks. Recommended Episodes: Umm....all of them except The Three Doctors with The Daemons, Planet of the Spiders, ...The Silurians, Inferno, and The Green Death standing out just a little more than the rest. Or you can just watch all of Season 7. Peak Doctor Who imo. ============================ Unfortunately, some of you haters aren't too far off the mark. Doctor Who has sucked for the last 45 years (30 if we're being pedantic). Nu Who is up there with Family Guy and Sherlock on the short list of shows I genuinely despise while I agree with Incy when it comes to hardcore Whovians being the worst. But since I'm here.... Fourth Doctor (Tom Baker)- Where the show jumped the shark for me. Following Pertwee was always going to be an daunting task, and this googly eyed no-seller with a jelly baby fetish wasn't up to the challenge. Though, in the interest of fairness, I will admit he is the most popular of the classic Doctors. Recommended Episodes- Seeds of Doom is a legit classic. Eccentric plant-loving billionaire Harrison Chase is probably my favorite one off Doctor Who villain. Genesis of the Daleks, Pyramids of Mars, and The Masque of Mandragora are also worth a watch. The Pirate Planet deserves a special anti-recommendation for being the last straw. That's when I finally stopped asking "Why am I still watching this crap?" and actually stopped watching this crap. Fifth Doctor (Peter Davison)- Have only seen a few episodes. Seems like a pretty good Doctor though. Albeit one stuck with some extremely annoying companions and a lot of "been there, done that" scripts. Not gonna lie though. If I want to watch the great Peter Davison I'm taking All Creatures Great and Small over his Doctor Who run every single time. Recommended Episode: Earthshock just for the shock (hehe) ending. Sixth (Colin Baker) & Seventh (Sylvester McCoy) Doctors- Have only seen an episode or two apiece. That was quite enough, thank you very much. 6 is a bad Doctor with a hot companion and an AMAZING outfit. 7 is a bad Doctor with a WOAT companion and I don't even remember his outfit. Eighth (Paul McCann)- Actually liked him a lot....in his one appearance....during an AMERICAN made-for-tv movie. Yikes! Americans cannot do Doctor Who. Trust me on this. It was a hot mess featuring Eric Roberts turning into a snake. But I quite liked McCann as The Doctor in his lone appearance. Nu Who (through Matt Smith)- As I mentioned in an earlier post it takes all the stuff I hated about Tom Baker's run as The Doctor and turns it up to 11. Making Nu Who one of the few shows I genuinely despise. Unsurprisingly, a lot of the clever dicks behind Sherlock were also at the helm of Nu Who. It's all gimmicks and catchphrases while everybody fawns over Nerd Superman. You know The Doctor is the ginchiest, grooviest cat in the entire Universe because all the other characters are constantly telling you this. Barf. I finally tapped out for good when The Doctor became a soccer star (because of course he did!) while a bunch of randoms in attendance literally chanted his name. This really happened! If "wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff" strikes you as the height of wit, as it does for many Nu Whovians, then this is the show for you. I personally would have more fun watching paint dry.
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Post by c on Dec 1, 2021 7:48:24 GMT
Yeah that is my problem really, is the missing episodes or when streaming companies get stuff they like get parts of the series and not other parts, so it is hard to watch in chron order and everything is like disjointed. Not looked in a while though to see if this was ever fixed up. Only the first two Doctors suffer from missing episodes. Everything from #3 Jon Pertwee on has been preserved. No idea what is or isn't available on the streaming services though. A lot of streaming like to block things by arcs, and do not offer all arcs for all doctors. It makes it really hard to know what watch order to watch things in or even what is missing, which annoys me a lot as the trying to catch things like this means there are gaps in the story that drives me crazy. Not sure if people finally like started to offer proper seasons, but the story chains were a nightmare. Way it was done when I tried to get into it was like you would get one or two stories from a season, and that would be it. Everything else was not just there to watch. Originally it was worse with like one or two stories per doctor period, but then they started to add more. One day I will look to see if I can get the proper seasons, or just download the damn things off bittorrent. Also not gonna lie, I generally hate the historic Doctor Who episodes. Just not my thing at all.
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Post by iNCY on Dec 1, 2021 10:29:38 GMT
My fav's in the classics if anyone wants to check them out would be: Genesis of the Daleks Remembrance of the Daleks
I am not big on Eccelston Of the newer episodes, Blink is the standout. I do like the Riversong arc and when a good man goes to war... HATE the messing around with the Dalek and Cybermen, didn't like the Thall arc, did like Davros being in it.
This is one of my favourite scenes of the reboot:
This is just after the Matt Smith regeneration...
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Post by c on Dec 1, 2021 13:38:37 GMT
Really curious who will take on the role of the Doctor next year. Russell Davies who was behind getting the show back on TV is coming back as showrunner to handle the introduction to the new Doctor. Eccelston and Tennant were his doctors and likely to see a lot of people from his era return to do the 60th anniversary. With Davies comes Bad Wolf to produce, and their effects team is crazy. They did the visually amazing His Dark Materials adaptation.
Esselston gets a bum wrap but he is one side of a coin with Tennant as the other half. He was the isolated Doctor who lost his compassion, and when he regains it, he regenerates into Tennant. I thought it worked out great as it also explained hey, the reason this show was not on TV for decades as the Doctor was just flying around in isolation having turned his back on humanity basically.
A lot of people shit on the new Who stuff from the first episode as it was not their Doctor Who. But as said many times before the "good" Doctor Who stuff for people tends to be based more on when you started to started to watch than anything else. How things were then, should be how things always are is the attitude I get, which is kind of lame for a show that is 60 years old and deals with time travel that can basically rewrite it's own past on a whim.
Cool to say, I loved this era of the Doctor and his stories, but some Who fans just get miserable that others got into the new series and do not want to go back to the 70's stuff. In the US, Doctor Who simply was not aired really until the soft reboot and even that was not aired on a channel most people got.
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Post by Ness on Dec 1, 2021 23:12:15 GMT
So I started with season 2. My original interest has generally been Tennent (mostly because I really liked him in JJ) and the previous 1 only getting one season when all the others have around 3 just makes him seem like a jobber. 3 episodes in and I like it well enough. Not one I'm gonna binge or anything as the episodes feel a bit heavy for that, but one I'll add to my list and tackle the other seasons (sadly starting with 1 now that I'm IN) sprinkled in with other shows I watch.
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Post by c on Dec 2, 2021 0:30:12 GMT
For what it is worth Ness, season 1's as it seeds stuff during Tennant's run. Doctor is the same character in both seasons, just wears a different face. Also make sure you are watching the specials. Specials run between seasons and the regenerations are done during them as usually are companion farewells or introductions.
At the very least for season 1 watch these episodes:
1-1 Rose - Introduces Rose and the Doctor. 1-6 Dalek - Introduces one of the doctors most feared foes. 1-12 Bad Wolf - one of the best episodes of the restarted series 1-13 The Parting of the Ways - part 2 of above.
Can skip the others if you must but these four set up events in season 2. Captain Jack appears in the last two episodes but he is mostly a torchwood guy and you miss some debuts of characters doing this few episodes.
Between the two seasons is the "The Christmas Invasion," dealing with the fallout from the regeneration to Tennant. There is almost always a Christmas episode between seasons some of which are fluff, some of which are important.
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Post by c on Dec 2, 2021 2:13:36 GMT
Oh yeah, the big seller of season 1 of the reboot is the Doctor is kind of an asshole. Only had like two doctors really that were dicks.
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Post by Ness on Dec 2, 2021 15:45:27 GMT
Now a dilemma. Only a few episodes into s2... do I pause and watch s1 and then go back? Looking affirmative to me.
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Post by c on Dec 2, 2021 19:01:32 GMT
Do season 1. It is a good season IMO. Also introduces the world as the Doctor explains to Rose a lot of stuff from the show.
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Post by Ness on Dec 2, 2021 23:48:19 GMT
Season 1 episode 1 certainly did an amazing job of sliding me into things.
I do like what I am seeing. I even marked out for the Cassandra and Face of Boe appearance in the preview already having seen them in the other season opener.
I feel like I've made this thread in the past. Especially when Baker described the idea of the lifers.
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Post by Ness on Dec 3, 2021 21:09:18 GMT
c get in here. Is there a reason they change doctors as often as they do, or is it just a coincidence they leave after 3 seasons? To keep things fresh? Actors not wanting it to define their career (although it probably still will)?
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Post by c on Dec 4, 2021 6:47:15 GMT
With the modern era when they bring in a new creative team they swap doctors. Allows the new showrunner to have total control. Doctors that people love they will extend as long as they can. but doctors who are not well received, they swap out after a few years. It makes sense, if you cannot get over, why stay the champ basically? Basically not only does the champ get the boot too, the bookers as well. I mean if you have the champ, you likely also do not like the booking of the show. So you just wait for a swap to give it another try. With this setup you can run forever.
Cycles back to the next doctor. Moffett who booked the Tennant era returns for the next doctor, which could get interesting, as there is no real reason he cannot also bring back Tennant. No rules that the Doctor cannot regenerate into a greatest hits body basically. Doubt he is doing this, but also would not put it past him to be considering doing this.
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Post by iNCY on Dec 4, 2021 17:41:44 GMT
c get in here. Is there a reason they change doctors as often as they do, or is it just a coincidence they leave after 3 seasons? To keep things fresh? Actors not wanting it to define their career (although it probably still will)? These days it's mosy that being Doctor Who is an enormous profile lifter and after making a name for themselves playing the doctor lots of other options open up. Amy Pond became an Avenger, how's that for lifting out of obscurity. Capaldi is the odd one out, he already had a profile and wanted to be the Doctor because he was a huge fan. Historically, as in before the reboot, playing the doctor was sort of a kiss of death for an actor, they became type cast and roles were hard to come by afterwards.
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Post by c on Dec 4, 2021 19:21:49 GMT
Yeah both Tennant and Smith kind of exploded after their role as Doctor. Whittaker and Capaldi already were pretty well know before they became Doctors so they leave and just go back to doing whatever they want really.
Getting typecasted is not really a big thing these days as people do a ton of more crossover work now. Radcliffe thought he was typecast after Harry Potter but then he has been doing all sorts stuff after.
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Post by Ness on Dec 4, 2021 23:43:17 GMT
I think the one who I always saw as the Dr was Matt Smith. Whenever I'd see imagery of it tended to be him. Maybe he was the current one at the height of BBT. Always borderline hated his face, so that instantly turned me off on the show. I get the feeling he'll probably be my favorite in the end since the few clips I've seen of his have left an imprint in me more so than full episodes with "1" and "2".
Also are they just gonna cuck the "boyfriend" the whole time? First episode I saw (s2e1) Rose kisses him and then is fawning over the doctor. Legit thought the kiss was just a good-bye greeting. Then s2e3 he joins and she's made because she doesn't have the doctor to herself. I start over and in the first episode doctor basically steals his gf "he's not invited". Brutal af.
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