1. How the hell does Sam Bradfords degenerative knee having ass keep getting teams to give him millions of dollars? I heard it last night on a podcast and I couldn't agree more - never has a quarterback got more money from so many different teams by doing less than Bradford. One year deal or not there is no reason to pay Bradford that much money THAT early on in the FA process. The Cardinals were acting desperate.

2. Fuck you again Gutenkunst. Released Jordy - there is no reason for that as we could have released Cobb and saved the same money. And the big kicker is: we have Montgomery who does 95% of what Cobb does anyways and at like 7 million cheaper. Nooooo though lets release the second most popular Packer of the last decade and bring in a bum like Jimmy Graham who probably won't play 8 games for us this season and even if he does - we don't use the tight end , never have.

Lets keep around bums like Clay Matthews though , who make more than Jordy and don't do shit and is constantly on and off the field because roids have killed his durability. Gah.

3. On the flip side - I love the Wilkerson signing. There's really no negative spin to be put on this at one year for five million dollars. It's no risk and high reward if he can return to 90% of his previous form with Pettine. The down three of the Daniels , Clark and Wilkerson has the potential to be amongst the best in the NFL and it's been awhile since we could say that about any of our defensive units - so I'm excited.

After re-signing Brees yesterday, Saints have done fuck all in free agency.

Mar 14, 2018 15:57:17 GMT @theshow said:

After re-signing Brees yesterday, Saints have done fuck all in free agency.

That's a pretty important piece though , and you guys apparently were the last ones in on the battle to get Graham. Actually it was reported you guys were more than likely going to sign him once Brees fell into place. Kind of wish you would have. 

Still though , awesome move by Brees and Saints fans better be grateful. He was offered 60 million fully guaranteed from another team and turned it down for 33 million less in guarantees. At the age of 39 even , great stuff. Watch the NFL prove how cruel it is and cut him after this season. 

Tyrann Mathieu has been released by Arizona Cardinals...If Carolina dont pick him up or Jordy Nelson, Ima lose my mind.

Joe Thomas is retiring. It is such a fucking shame that this guy never made it to the playoffs. I wished he went somewhere else. Cleveland is just a wasteland, and not even the great Joe Thomas could save it.

The Honey Badger proved his nickname by turning down a pay cut. He’s better off out of Arizona since that team is about to become a bottom dweller in the NFL.

The Honey Badger is probably going to join a team that offers him the most money. I don’t think he tries to join a playoff team for less money.... Unless the Saints need him. If not, I can see him joining a weaker AFC team for the more money aspect.

Happy with Solder. Obviously paying a high price because he was the only LT option on the market but at least we don't have to suffer through another season with Flowers.

Mar 14, 2018 19:10:08 GMT CM Punk'd said:

Joe Thomas is retiring. It is such a fucking shame that this guy never made it to the playoffs. I wished he went somewhere else. Cleveland is just a wasteland, and not even the great Joe Thomas could save it.

30 sacks allowed in 11 seasons is simply incredible - especially when you consider he was on a team constantly playing from behind so the pass rush was turned loose, not to mention protecting some truly terrible quarterbacks. A first ballot HOFer for sure. 

Good riddance Tom Trash Savage.

Mar 14, 2018 15:41:40 GMT UT said:

3. On the flip side - I love the Wilkerson signing. There's really no negative spin to be put on this at one year for five million dollars. It's no risk and high reward if he can return to 90% of his previous form with Pettine. The down three of the Daniels , Clark and Wilkerson has the potential to be amongst the best in the NFL and it's been awhile since we could say that about any of our defensive units - so I'm excited.

Well it is a 1 year deal which isn't bad at all but I don't think it's only a matter of motivation with him. Yeah its pathetic that after him (deservedly) wanting a new deal that he routinely showed up late and was critical of the medical teams handling of his leg which shows terrible accountability on both aspects....but I think since his leg injury, he has shown tentativeness and I wonder if the desire and want is still there because I sure didn't see it these past 2 seasons. He still stuffs the run well so you are getting that but he doesn't have that same first step of a move to get to the QB and he often got subdued by whoever he lined up with this past season.

It's a shame the Jets gave Wilkerson the big money over Snacks Harrison, it's hindsight is 20/20 but Snacks cares a damn about being a leader and setting a good example. Wilkerson is in denial saying he has given his all last season and that's bullshit. Just fucking say you got your money and that you could care less about the team's standing. Much like with Revis in his 2nd tenure with the Jets, he got his money, dogged it and is off. Snacks went to a team that appreciates him, Wilkerson really failed this organization who took a chance on him. Maybe he finds his way under Rex's protégé Pettine....but I think that leg break has changed his hunger and mindset but who knows.

I would stay away from him and Sheldon Richardson as far as a long term deal goes, I feel comfortable giving Leo Williams one but I said the same on Wilkerson after his 3rd year too. What a fucking shame Wilkerson ended up being because from 2011-2015 he was awesome and was on a tier below Watt as far as his position goes.

Again it's a one year , five million dollar deal. I understand he's not the same player he was and there might be more than one factor contributing to his play but it's literally of zero risk to us long term. If he doesn't work out then he's gone and there are no long term cap ramifications and if he plays up to potential than we have a studly defensive line.

No negative spin can be put on that signing. It's literally of no risk.

My points on Wilkerson aren't a negative spin, they are true that he was a lazy, unprofessional disappointment the past 2 years for the Jets since he signed his contract. I agree that I think it's a good risk by the Packers to take since there isn't much past this year, I just don't think this is a slam dunk due to the leg injury. Except when the Packers visit the Jets this year, he will treat that like it's his super bowl and will destroy Brian Winters, Spencer Long, Carpenter and whoever the Jets trot out there on the interior. Might make that money worth it alone for the motivation he will get. Just if the Packers season goes south like it did last year and say Rodgers gets hurt again, Wilkerson will be among the very first to coast it and leave the team hang to dry with passive play on the field. 

The one thing about Wilkerson was that Manish Mehta who is probably the worst beat reporter in all of sports(Isola gives him a run however) was unprofessional for years on Wilkerson even most recently indicating that he is an alcoholic which seems sort of uncalled for, especially given Wilkerson was/is a practicing Muslim.Pretty lame but this is Manish Mehta who bullshits for views and throws unknown sources out to make stories up like no tomorrow. Manish's boy Pettine runs the Packers defense so I assume he will lay off Wilkerson this one year but never put it behind this hack.

Jon Gruden must be a believer in patterns. Doug Martin's rushing totals: 1454, 456, 494, 1402, 421, 406. He's signed a 1 year deal with Oakland.

Jordy Nelson also signs with the Raiders, taking Michael Crabtree's spot.

Mar 12, 2018 23:30:14 GMT @admin said:

Tyrod is definitely a starting level quarterback, and consistently one of the best protectors of the football in the league. He is infinitely a better option that what the Browns have put out under center for a number of years now, and acts as a nice bridge to whoever they pick in the draft.

Jarvis Landry is also not a downfield threat, he is much more of a slot/possession receiver who does his work around the line of scrimmage. He averaged under 9 yards per reception last season.

I won't argue against him being a starting QB. He's a starter on a team like Cleveland or Buffalo or someone else that is struggling.

However one of the best protectors of the football is giving him too much credit, because he earned that by constantly throwing the ball away when he got in trouble. His awareness is garbage, he sucks in the red zone and any time he got in trouble he tossed the ball out of bounds if he didn't have a lane to run, which was almost never (not always his fault, but still).

He's a good pick up for Cleveland so I get why the fans there are happy, but he isn't the saviour they all think he is.

Mar 15, 2018 23:17:28 GMT RT said:

However one of the best protectors of the football is giving him too much credit, because he earned that by constantly throwing the ball away when he got in trouble. His awareness is garbage, he sucks in the red zone and any time he got in trouble he tossed the ball out of bounds if he didn't have a lane to run, which was almost never (not always his fault, but still).

He's a good pick up for Cleveland so I get why the fans there are happy, but he isn't the saviour they all think he is.

That is exactly what protecting the football is, no? He has the third best TD-INT ratio in the league over recent years only behind Brady and Rodgers. Being overly safe is a valid criticism of his play, and he's probably never going to be a 4000 yard, 30 TD quarterback - but I also now see a receiving corps of Gordon, Coleman, Landry and Njoku that's infinitely better than he was ever provided in Buffalo.

I haven't really seen anyone acting like he is going to be a saviour - merely acknowledging that he is a distinct upgrade on Kizer/Kessler/Hogan and that this is a step in the right direction to moderate competitiveness. I think you put Taylor on last year's Browns and they probably win at least 3 or 4 games. 

2. Fuck you again Gutenkunst. Released Jordy - there is no reason for that as we could have released Cobb and saved the same money. And the big kicker is: we have Montgomery who does 95% of what Cobb does anyways and at like 7 million cheaper. Nooooo though lets release the second most popular Packer of the last decade and bring in a bum like Jimmy Graham who probably won't play 8 games for us this season and even if he does - we don't use the tight end , never have.

The Packers did have a pretty decent TE when Chmura played for them. That's the last time I remember though. Regarding Jordy and Cobb, everything you say is true, except for the fact that Cobb is 5 years younger than Jordy is and has less mileage on him. That was probably a big factor in the Packers' decision.

Mar 15, 2018 23:26:16 GMT @admin said:

Mar 15, 2018 23:17:28 GMT RT said:

However one of the best protectors of the football is giving him too much credit, because he earned that by constantly throwing the ball away when he got in trouble. His awareness is garbage, he sucks in the red zone and any time he got in trouble he tossed the ball out of bounds if he didn't have a lane to run, which was almost never (not always his fault, but still).

He's a good pick up for Cleveland so I get why the fans there are happy, but he isn't the saviour they all think he is.

That is exactly what protecting the football is, no? He has the third best TD-INT ratio in the league over recent years only behind Brady and Rodgers. Being overly safe is a valid criticism of his play, and he's probably never going to be a 4000 yard, 30 TD quarterback - but I also now see a receiving corps of Gordon, Coleman, Landry and Njoku that's infinitely better than he was ever provided in Buffalo.

I haven't really seen anyone acting like he is going to be a saviour - merely acknowledging that he is a distinct upgrade on Kizer/Kessler/Hogan and that this is a step in the right direction to moderate competitiveness. I think you put Taylor on last year's Browns and they probably win at least 3 or 4 games. 

Oh you're not wrong, that is exactly what protecting the football is. I'm just pointing out that it's not much of a positive when you consider that he doesn't really do much beyond keeping possession.

I also might have just seen people over-exaggerating online because I don't really read much football news on the internet. The day Tyrod got traded I checked r/nfl for the first time in like two weeks, and most Browns fans in the comment section were ecstatic they got a decent QB, and kept bringing up how him and Landry were going to dominate. I saw a lot of the same on twitter as well. Not great examples, but hey. It's all I really have to go off of.

Nice Jets signed Claiborne to a 1 year deal again.

Mo Claiborne-Jamal Adams-Marcus Maye-Trumaine Johnson back four is sick, easily one of the best secondaries potentially in the game today. I want to have a better 3rd CB than Skrine(Though he usually does well as a slot/nickel CB) once the inevitable Mo Claiborne injury happens but alas.

Sucks ASJ signed with the Jags for a little bit more than the Jets gave....hope the Jets can resign Ealy because the Jets are a good pass rusher or two from being a very good defense. Would not be terrible if Chubb fell to the Jets at 6 and they took him and relied on him as a go to pass rusher for years to come. This team is craving that.

Jets can use a go to TE, RT, pass rusher and a young QB. We have 4 picks, lets make it happen.

Mar 15, 2018 23:46:00 GMT RT said:

I also might have just seen people over-exaggerating online because I don't really read much football news on the internet. The day Tyrod got traded I checked r/nfl for the first time in like two weeks, and most Browns fans in the comment section were ecstatic they got a decent QB, and kept bringing up how him and Landry were going to dominate. I saw a lot of the same on twitter as well. Not great examples, but hey. It's all I really have to go off of.

Browns fans have suffered through one of the worst runs in America sports history, I'm not surprised they're getting excited over the smallest glimmer of hope. There's also the context that they were close to giving up a second and third round pick for McCarron a few months ago, and instead keep the second rounder and acquire a (better) far more proven quarterback.

I’d just be worried it is a move that stops them from drafting a QB again. Especially if they draft Barkley instead.

Mar 16, 2018 12:12:02 GMT mikec said:

I’d just be worried it is a move that stops them from drafting a QB again. Especially if they draft Barkley instead.

They signed Carlos Hyde and have Duke Johnson, that is one of the better duos in the backfield in the game. I can see them using a pick for a RB eventually especially if they trade down but I don't think it is Barkley.

I think Cleveland goes Darnold at 1 and allows Buffalo to move to 4. Buffalo will take either Rosen or J. Allen.

Mar 15, 2018 23:36:48 GMT thereallt said:

2. Fuck you again Gutenkunst. Released Jordy - there is no reason for that as we could have released Cobb and saved the same money. And the big kicker is: we have Montgomery who does 95% of what Cobb does anyways and at like 7 million cheaper. Nooooo though lets release the second most popular Packer of the last decade and bring in a bum like Jimmy Graham who probably won't play 8 games for us this season and even if he does - we don't use the tight end , never have.

The Packers did have a pretty decent TE when Chmura played for them. That's the last time I remember though. Regarding Jordy and Cobb, everything you say is true, except for the fact that Cobb is 5 years younger than Jordy is and has less mileage on him. That was probably a big factor in the Packers' decision.

I obviously didn't mean never , Chmura was fine and so was Jackson. Finley even showed some flashes but was wildly inconsistent and obvious had his career ended prematurely. 

And I don't care about the ages between Cobb and Jordy , Jordy is still a better football player even with all the mileage on him. Better route runner and better hands - and he actually knows how to play the slot. Cobb can disappear for games at a time and is constantly banged up as well - so like I said , use Montgomery in his role and keep Jordy as the slot guy who you know is going to get you 9 yards on 3rd and 8. 

Instead now we have Cobb , who McCarthy loves to throw to behind the LOS on third and 8 and lose two yards so we can punt. FUCKKKKKKKKKKK.

Mar 16, 2018 13:02:46 GMT Blindy said:

Mar 16, 2018 12:12:02 GMT mikec said:

I’d just be worried it is a move that stops them from drafting a QB again. Especially if they draft Barkley instead.

They signed Carlos Hyde and have Duke Johnson, that is one of the better duos in the backfield in the game. I can see them using a pick for a RB eventually especially if they trade down but I don't think it is Barkley.

I think Cleveland goes Darnold at 1 and allows Buffalo to move to 4. Buffalo will take either Rosen or J. Allen.

I can see the Browns drafting Barkley and then maybe trading him for more picks.

The Honey Badger has signed with the Houston Texans for a 1 year deal. That defense is going to be tough.

Blount Force Trauma has signed with the Lions.

Still may need another cornerback, although rumour is Johnson Badamosi will be brought in for special teams and cover CB.

Decent free agency period for us but receivers still a concern.

So fucking pissed the Jets gave up 3 2nd round picks to move up 3 spots. Who are we drafting? Rosen? Darnold?

UGH.

Bills could swing a trade for 1 or 2 with the Browns or Giants and get a QB....

CLE- Darnold
BUF(Via NYG)- Rosen
NYJ(IND)- Mayfield

So you trade up 3 spots for Baker Mayfield? I mean Barkley is a badass but you would not give up so much ammo for someone like him. 

and I LIKE Mayfield mind you but I don't think he's THAT good to trade 3 2nd round picks to acquire him. 

Don't fucking talk about going up 3 spots for Josh Allen.....I have been very, very, very tame the past few years as far as rants go. 

I am just so mad. This team needs a pass rusher, OLine help, and we won't pick again until the 3rd round and already are down a 5th and 7th round pick so depth is not going to be here. 

Jets have 3rd overall pick, 3rd, 4th and 6th round picks. That's right they are getting FOUR players this draft class unless they do draft day maneuvers. 

What a fucking stupid ass trade. I FUCKING HATE when this franchise trades up and misses on the QB. I like Rosen and Mayfield quite a bit and enough to be happy if they are chosen but tell me what happens when Bowles, Jeremy Bates and McCagnan have a down season again this year which may very well happen? Are they kept? Because if they aren't you are throwing a new regime and telling them to inherit a QB they took 3rd overall. 

This is why you tank for games. Beating the Chiefs, Jaguars and Bills meant absolute zero and if anything allowed the Broncos and Texans and Colts to be ahead of us when it matters most. I hate tanking as much as the next  guy but there's zero reason to win 5 games instead of 3 and it kills you in the end. 

That is ALOT to give up for the Jets to move up three spots , god damn. Of course none of it matters if the quarterback they takes is a stud and becomes one of the best in the league - but if he busts out then the Jets are just going to be featured in more Draft Miscue montages during draft coverages.

With Teddy and McCown there for stop gaps , I'd take the gamble on Allen. I like Mayfield more but think he is one capable of playing early on.

The Eagles have just won a Super Bowl with Nick Foles and teams still don't get it.

Having  an ace QB means shit if the rest of your franchise is a dumpster fire. Better to have somewhat of a solid roster your QB can work with

Well to be fair who knows if they even make the playoffs or let alone have homefield advantage without Carson Wentz MVP calibur year prior to going down. The same Wentz that Philly mortgaged draft picks for. Foles didn't light it up in the regular season so I think it is tough to rule out how important Wentz's contributions to that team were.

That being said, I don't know if there is a Wentz in this draft. I like Rosen since he seems like a safe pick and seems pretty pro ready as they come and he'd be my guy if he's around for the team at No.3.

Still dislike the trade since I think we are quite a few pieces away and I hate giving up such ammo but it is what it is.

Mar 17, 2018 21:28:00 GMT thereallt said:

The Eagles have just won a Super Bowl with Nick Foles and teams still don't get it.

Having  an ace QB means shit if the rest of your franchise is a dumpster fire. Better to have somewhat of a solid roster your QB can work with

Best way to have that is the draft. First contract QBs are cheap enough to pile talent around. The Eagles roster won’t hold once Wentz gets his money either.

Mar 17, 2018 15:03:12 GMT Blindy said:

This is why you tank for games. Beating the Chiefs, Jaguars and Bills meant absolute zero and if anything allowed the Broncos and Texans and Colts to be ahead of us when it matters most. I hate tanking as much as the next  guy but there's zero reason to win 5 games instead of 3 and it kills you in the end. 

I just can't understand this mentality bro. Winning is everything, losing is death. In the competitive world of the NFL once you accept losing into your heart it becomes a part of the fabric of your soul forever(or for a very long period of time). I believe there are certain teams through NFL history that just became associated with losing, just their uniforms and their helmets(80's/early 90's Bucs, post Super Bowl XX Patriots, today's Cleveland Brownsetc), to the point when opponents seen them on their schedule they were just licking their chops and it was a heavily mental thing going into those games where the outcome was already decided before they even stepped onto the field. There's also the fact that players don't want to play for teams that are synonymous with losing and it all just becomes a culture over time. 

A team should fight to win every game no matter what so they can hold their heads up with some sort of pride, win or lose, knowing that they fought it out with honor. The idea of losing on purpose for the draft really just blows my mind. They should just get better at drafting, so many of the all time greats were taken outside of those top 5 picks(JJ Watt, Troy Polamalu), late round guys(Tom Brady), even undrafted guys(Arian Foster). And then there was all those top 5 draft picks that turned out to be nothing, too many to list here. Play to win the game and then just let the chips fall where they may, learn how to evaluate talent. 

The Texans had a few seasons where they could have tanked it. That 7-9 season in 2004 comes to mind, team was still really young and could not land any of the big name free agents at the time, they NEEDED a high draft pick and winning some of those games that year did them no favors. Had they lost on purpose to get a top 5 pick they wouldn't have gotten much though, Pac Man Jones? Alex Smith? Ronnie Brown? Braylon Edwards? I don't know man, I wouldn't trade some of those wins for any of those guys, they had some wins and some moments that year that I'll never forget. Then again in the 2008 season where the hurricane fucked up NRG Stadium and they started 0-4, could have tanked that year but Kubiak pulled them boys together to win 8 of their last 12 to finish 8-8, didn't even get close to making the playoffs but still there were a few wins there in that stretch that mean a whole lot more than any of those guys in the top 10 of the 2009 NFL draft ever would have. 

They did tank the 2005 season. I almost destroyed a TV watching one of those last games against the Colts, fuck a draft I wanted them to beat that team and they clearly lost it on purpose. Yeah they got Mario Williams, one of the all time best Texans for sure, but at what price? Their performances on primetime that year were so bad they didn't get another primetime game for a few years, didn't get on national televised primetime until 7 years later, the team had that losers aura they had to work against for years after that 2005 tanked season.