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Post by System on Nov 11, 2024 2:09:36 GMT
iNCY only impact I’ve seen is women who are bald (not by choice) get upset & no other impact.
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Post by iron maiden on Nov 11, 2024 3:00:13 GMT
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Post by System on Nov 11, 2024 3:02:54 GMT
That’s not a response to women shaving their heads though.
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Post by iNCY on Nov 11, 2024 3:04:40 GMT
These are low life incel types trolling women who are upset about the election result. It is disgusting and unsurprising.
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Post by KJ on Nov 11, 2024 3:11:11 GMT
“People are more mean online” isn’t a platform I’m going to push.
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Post by iron maiden on Nov 11, 2024 3:12:39 GMT
That’s not a response to women shaving their heads though. I assume for them it's a way to protest and to make themselves less attractive to the opposite sex not realizing that harassment and assault are not a matter of looks but power.
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Post by iron maiden on Nov 11, 2024 3:13:46 GMT
“People are more mean online” isn’t a platform I’m going to push. Except that's it's happening on campuses and schools too and not just online. "There were also signs that harassment extended into real life, in schools and university campuses. Young girls and parents have been sharing instances where “your body, my choice” were being directed at girls or being chanted by young boys in classes, ISD said."
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Post by RT on Nov 11, 2024 3:14:18 GMT
No. Incels are dudes that blame everything but themselves for not being able to get a woman, and some went so far as to embrace the lifestyle instead of making themselves better people. The 4B movement started in South Korea as a form of protest, and for good reason. "The 4B movement is meant to serve as a direct opposition to South Korea's patriarchal state and combat its pro-natalist policies, which view women's bodies and reproductive abilities as tools for the state's future."American women seeing similar things happen in their country have looked to the movement as their own form of protest. They're voluntarily celibate, not involuntarily celibate. Quite the opposite. Kinda. Yes, of course. Understandably, the incels are involuntarily celibate and having seen some examples, I can understand why. They say you can't smell a jpeg, but I beg to differ. To play Devil's advocate, I'd bet there's a significantly high green/blue/purple broccoli hair + terrible piercings and ugly tattoos ratio in the 4B movement to challenge the idea all followers are entirely voluntarily celibate. I have no evidence to argue or agree with you but I will say that I wouldn't be surprised. I have seen a couple sex workers I follow on twitter saying they are joining the movement, and they are hot, so there's that...but overall, I guess we'll see. All I know is I am seeing lots of posts online of people literally breaking up because of the election and almost all of them are because the male in the relationship voted for Trump and it makes me laugh.
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Post by KJ on Nov 11, 2024 3:16:59 GMT
Michinokudriver here's what I realistically want to see from Trump 2.0. Maybe I'll get into pipedream/more esoteric stuff some other time. EDIT: lol I am incapable of brevity. And this post goes more and more into the weeds the further it goes. Sorry! Blame it on a very, very, very rare drinking night. And this isn't even the post I wanted to write tonight! The mother of all rants.....the skeleton key to unlock it all...will have to wait until....Monday, probably. *I do think Trump is in a much better position to MAGA this time around. Last time there were a lot of factors working against him. This time he has the experience, a much stronger mandate, and, at least for now, a less deranged opposition. I just hope he surrounds himself with better people this time around. I'm already having doubts as I'll get to later. As for Project 2025, there's some good stuff in there and some stuff I don't agree with. Secure the Border/Remigration- Trump had me all those years ago at "build the wall." Nations have borders. You have borders or you no longer have a country. Simple as. How are sanctuary cities even a thing? How are people just ok with allowing hordes of invaders into our country?? How is any of this even controversial??? I will never understand. I saw somewhere on X that 1.3 million illegals are sitting around waiting to be deported for crimes committed beyond illegal entry. Start with them. They have to go back. One interesting proposal I saw is pulling funding for sanctuary cities/states that don't want to play ball. Yes. Do it. From an October 2023 Heritage Foundation article... "The Biden administration is paying $2.5 billion in taxpayer funds for Immigration and Customs Enforcement to house illegal migrants. ICE provides them not only food and a bed, but medical and dental care, recreation and other services to meet higher standards than county detention systems, for example." What. The. Fuck. Best move along now before I get bogged down here with an hour long rant. End Wokeness- DEI must DIE. Same goes for CRT & ESG. It needs to go. Academia can be brought to heel as well. I really do think we passed peak wokeness a year or two ago. Now we kill it once and for all. We make it, to use one of your guys' favorite words, toxic. Oh, and while it's honestly small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, no more men in women's sports either. Biology is real. Accept it. Fight Inflation- This is probably the #1 issue for most voters and Top 3 for me. As deeply unpopular as the above are, I think Bidenflation is why Trump won so decisively. If Trump fails to curb inflation, I think most who aren't hardcore MAGAmaniacs will regret their vote and turn on him quickly. Get those prices down or lose the Mandate of Heaven. No More Wars (Unless Directly Attacked)- No more being the world's police. No more "exporting Democracy." We tried that in the 2000s. It failed. Miserably. No more wasting our treasure and the lives of our young people in foreign boondoggles. Those days must be over. Nobody is joining the military to fight for the greater glory of Israel or Ukraine. America First or gtfo. From here on out we only fight if directly attacked. How about using troops to protect our own border FOR ONCE instead of some other country's border an ocean away? I guess now is as good a time as any to touch on the Israel/Palestine kerfuffle and slip in a rant. Having a neutral opinion on a 6000 year old ethno-religious tribal conflict taking place 6000 miles away between two groups I have nothing to do with is normal and good. That should the default reaction. And that's where I started... Truth is I had issues with both sides. I'm tired of the US being an ATM machine for Israel. I'm tired of Israel getting special treatment no other country seems to get. I'm not real crazy about Trump being so rah rah on Israel btw. BUT Palestine did start the latest flare up in this forever feud with a real dick move. And over time I've come to hold my nose and grudgingly "root" (not really the right word, but whatevs) for Israel because HOLY SHIT are the pro-Palestine crew the most annoying motherfuckers on the planet or what? See, I have a major issue with unemployed behavior in general. You can wave your little signs and shout your little slogans in some designated corner of campus, or at some park you got a permit for, or whatever, but once your little chimpouts inconvenience the lives of normal, productive citizens just trying to go about their daily lives, you're dead to me. Whether it's BLM, Antifa, Occupy, Climate protesters, the pro-Palestine crowd....I've just got no time for this nonsense. Not gonna lie. I basically turn into Hitler whenever I see left wing protesters blocking traffic, destroying property, attacking random people, or basically just....existing. Now that I think about it, the Freddie Gray riots here in 2015 Baltimore (a story worthy of a post itself- there were literal tanks in the old West Coast Video parking lot!) might just be what first started me down the path to where I am now. You could, in fact, succinctly describe my politics as SocietyCivilization=Good. Destruction=Bad. Deconstruction is a bit shit as well while I'm at it. Ever notice left wing protesters burn the flag while right wing protesters (rare though they are for reasons I don't feel like getting into right now) wave the flag? I know which side I'm on. Speaking of flags, "decolonize" is a major red one. Right up there with "toxic and problematic" or the dreaded "pronouns in bio" when it comes to red flags. Any time I see these words and phrases I know I am dealing with a person to be avoided, ignored, or mocked. *This post is already running hella long (see, I know my Bay Area slang!) so I might not elaborate much from here on out, but I do have some specific ideas in mind for what is to come... Overhaul/Investigate/Gut Government Agencies- Drain. The. Swamp. For real this time! I'm optimistic. And would need an entire post to elaborate on all I want to see. Invest In American Jobs/Infrastructure
Cut Foreign Spending Retribution?- Ok, this one does need some explaining. Not gonna lie. Trump saying "I WILL BE YOUR RETRIBUTION" might have got the biggest pop out of me during the entire campaign (it was either that or "They're Not Really After Me, They're After You. I'm Just in the Way." "Hell yeah! Free all political prisoners! Punish all enemies! Trump! Trump! Trump!" And while I'm still not necessarily averse to some degree of retribution, I also really do want America to come together again, pipedream though it may be. Basically, my ideal America is a permanent post-9/11 world where everyone (ok, >90%) is on the same page. So maybe only a moderate form of retribution? Look, some people really do deserve it! Enough to constitute a full post of their own, in fact. And I really do want to see some political prisoners freed. Not sure I'll ever get over the heavy-handed way they came down on even the peaceful protesters during that little dust up at the Capitol on J6 after looking the other way only a few months earlier during the Summer of George. Right Wingers be like "oh, so we're doing this now?" after watching months' worth of "Very Peaceful Protests" during the Summer of George. Nope! Feds tracked down everybody who so much as jaywalked. Real two-tiered system you got there, huh? The Left can't meme, but have you notice the Right can't protest? Mean they are literally not allowed to. The left is constantly chimping out to little or no consequence while they bring the hammer down on those exceedingly rare occasions the right gets a little frisky (Charlottesville, DC, and....the Ottawa truckers since it's so rare we have to go up north to Canada just to find 3 examples). Extend the Olive Branch to Biden & Kamala- Plays into what I just wrote about longing to retvrn to a post-9/11 world. Be magnanimous just this one time, Donald. Be a gracious winner. He made inroads here by offering to pay Kamala's campaign debt. Nice gesture! Fwiw I have no real antipathy towards Kamala or Joe. They're not my cup of tea as politicians. I disagreed with most of their policies. They're your stereotypical empty suit politicians, Democrat party apparatchiks who have been for and against practically everything during their long careers depending on which way the wind is blowing. Which is infinitely preferable to your lunatic Squad types! And I do think Biden & Kamala are likable enough people. I actually felt sorry for Biden towards the end of his campaign and even found myself defending him a time or two when folks I know irl would dump on him for being old and senile. Yeah, that's right. A Trump supporter getting on people for being rude to Trump's opponent. Will wonders never cease? I also thought Kamala ran a good campaign despite the loss. She ran as a sensible moderate rather than the loony Dem primary candidate from 4-5 years earlier. The problems for her were Bidenflation and the fact that people like me (quite correctly, mind) associate the tarnished Democrat brand with open borders, wokeness, inflation, and a soft on crime approach. So even if Kamala & Biden present themselves as sensible moderates, we know the people surrounding them will be anything but. Don't Be Reflexively Pro-Business- Ahh moderation. The defining trait of my pre-2015 politics makes a comeback. The old guard Republican mentality needs to die. JD Vance, who I like a lot, and think will be a great heir to the MAGA Movement, has touched on this in a few speeches. The GOP has made major inroads with workers. Let's keep that up. I mentioned in another post on >$100k voters swinging roughly from Trump to Kamala and <$100 voters going hard from Biden to Trump and wrote something like "Republicans have become the party of workers and Democrats the party of their bosses." Let's keep that populism going. Workers vs. their soulless, middle management, bean-counting, KPI-obsessed bugmen bosses is a winning frame if ever there was one. Plus, and this admittedly plays into my retribution fantasies, the GOP spent decades simping for big corporations only to have those same big corps turn around and basically tell GOP voters to fuck off. So, yes, a part of me wants revenge. And the things I'd like to see done to the folks responsible for woke capital need not be named. Wasn't thrilled when I saw the news today of Trump interviewing a bunch of business leaders for cabinet positions btw. If they're known loyalists, fine. But loyalists only! No more snakes. Mini-rant time... I still maintain the normal and healthy American skepticism to socialism, and even typing the word Communism is enough to make me break out in hives, but I've come to conclude capitalism is...not great either! It's responsible for a whole lot of our problems, both economic and social. Look, I don't have all the answers. I might not have any answers! I'm just a guy who watches way too much old wrestling. Lower Crime/Punish Criminals- Major issue for many of us, including those here in the Baltimore area. But one admittedly largely out of Trump's hands. Yet if we had a Trump in every jurisdiction... A thousand, nay, a MILLION mini-Trumps! Ahh, a guy can dream. Anyway, crime sucks, and we need less of it. Put criminals behind bars again. *Yes, I see the irony in a Trump fan saying this, so no need for snarky comments. A similar example would be the most recent Baltimore mayoral race which saw the convicted former mayor running a tough on crime campaign against the current never convicted mayor running a soft on crime campaign. I was pulling for the convicted criminal there, too. A Continuance of Strong Judicial Appointments From His First TermReward Loyalists- We'll end on lighthearted one. I would love to see right wing influencers in the Trump administration. They won the election! A cadre of anonymous shitposters tweeting away for free managed to win 2 of the last 3 Presidential elections over the best and brightest Ivy League graduates the Democrat Party could overpay. How cool is that? The spirit of the underdog lives in MAGA. So bring in the anons. Hire the Youtubers. Right Wing thought leaders for cabinet positions! Ooh! brb after I fantasy book Trump's cabinet. MAGA today! MAGA tomorrow! MAGA forever! *I'm sure I could think of 20 more things but I'm already growing tired of my yearly foray into politics posting I’ve got some overlap with these. My questions to you, though, are: - A lot of these are rooted in feelings and ideologies, but I don’t quite track on the impact to the country. What are the outcomes you want to tangibly see from, say, gutting political offices?
- What are you general visions for America that really make you drawn to Trump? Example being the justice appointments — what are you looking for?
- Do you think there are ramifications if the U.S. goes full isolationist and no longer intervenes in conflicts internationally?
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Post by rad on Nov 11, 2024 3:30:51 GMT
No. Incels are dudes that blame everything but themselves for not being able to get a woman, and some went so far as to embrace the lifestyle instead of making themselves better people. The 4B movement started in South Korea as a form of protest, and for good reason. "The 4B movement is meant to serve as a direct opposition to South Korea's patriarchal state and combat its pro-natalist policies, which view women's bodies and reproductive abilities as tools for the state's future."American women seeing similar things happen in their country have looked to the movement as their own form of protest. They're voluntarily celibate, not involuntarily celibate. Quite the opposite. Kinda. Women choosing to sit out of the dating pool while their dating collateral is at unmatched highs is a hell of a self goal. It is also so strange to see the hysteria online, which seems unmatched to the actual reality in any state. I would be happy to be corrected on the second point, if there are examples of women unable to access medical services.It also seems unlikely Biden lets Harris become the 47th President, looking at Jill Biden's reactions it seems pretty clear that she hates Kamala's guts. Not interested in a pedantic mudslinging about reproductive rights with anyone here necessarily. I'd be remiss not admitting that, (my principles on bodily autonomy aside) abortion is a bit of a paradox. But I can understand this proliferation, too. It's a pretty human reaction to want to take more control of your body when the society around you seems hellbent on dominion over it and sexual assault is always a very real threat to consider. Certainly holds more water than co-opted MGTOW nonsense, though I wouldn't be shocked either if this too became bereft of its original message and further embraced the circus.
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Post by KJ on Nov 11, 2024 3:34:09 GMT
Women choosing to sit out of the dating pool while their dating collateral is at unmatched highs is a hell of a self goal. It is also so strange to see the hysteria online, which seems unmatched to the actual reality in any state. I would be happy to be corrected on the second point, if there are examples of women unable to access medical services.It also seems unlikely Biden lets Harris become the 47th President, looking at Jill Biden's reactions it seems pretty clear that she hates Kamala's guts. Not interested in a pedantic mudslinging about reproductive rights with anyone here necessarily. I'd be remiss not admitting that, (my principles on bodily autonomy aside) abortion is a bit of a paradox. But I can understand this proliferation, too. It's a pretty human reaction to want to take more control of your body when the society around you seems hellbent on dominion over it and sexual assault is always a very real threat to consider. Certainly holds more water than co-opted MGTOW nonsense, though I wouldn't be shocked either if this too became bereft of its original message and further embraced the circus. This isn’t the first instance either.
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Post by CM Punk'd on Nov 11, 2024 3:47:02 GMT
Hypothetically speaking, had Biden been in the race, do you think he would’ve done better or worse than Harris in the election?
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Post by NATH45 on Nov 11, 2024 4:01:39 GMT
Yes, of course. Understandably, the incels are involuntarily celibate and having seen some examples, I can understand why. They say you can't smell a jpeg, but I beg to differ. To play Devil's advocate, I'd bet there's a significantly high green/blue/purple broccoli hair + terrible piercings and ugly tattoos ratio in the 4B movement to challenge the idea all followers are entirely voluntarily celibate. I have no evidence to argue or agree with you but I will say that I wouldn't be surprised. I have seen a couple sex workers I follow on twitter saying they are joining the movement, and they are hot, so there's that...but overall, I guess we'll see. All I know is I am seeing lots of posts online of people literally breaking up because of the election and almost all of them are because the male in the relationship voted for Trump and it makes me laugh. Young people today are painful, and I expect this trend to likely be a non-story by years end. Not all men are bad, in fact the vast majority of men are decent people. The same can be said to counter the Incels. Not all women are bad, or evil and most are decent people. How about, instead of taking such extreme measures, instead make some better choices when dating. Not everyone is an asshole, and we've got to stop pretending they are because the internet tells us they are. I'd almost suggest, regardless of being either man or woman, if you've had a series of extremely problematic relationships, then you're likely part of, if not the entire problem. Blaming the entire opposite sex is incredibly stupid. This goes back to Gen Z and dating. I'm a Millennial, and I met my wife at 26. I had 2 girlfriends in my early 20s before that, a few in high school and maybe dated or went out with or hooked up with enough girls to figure out what I do and don't like and, what I will and won't accept in the relationship. Those relationships ended or barely started because one of us didn't see a future with the other. And that can be difficult, and that sucks. It's not always fun and doesn't always feel great. But to quote Blink-182, Well, I guess this is growing up. Not everything is a " red flag " or needs to be " called out " and I hate those articles in MSM that just seek to stir up outrage on social media, and it goes back to my peeve about this generation having to trendify everything and project blame.
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Post by sting on Nov 11, 2024 4:30:54 GMT
The irony of achieving a first in history for woman at the highest level ... but only because, first, a man lets you. This is probably closer to a point for chauvinism than it is for feminism.
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Post by rad on Nov 11, 2024 5:35:16 GMT
I have no evidence to argue or agree with you but I will say that I wouldn't be surprised. I have seen a couple sex workers I follow on twitter saying they are joining the movement, and they are hot, so there's that...but overall, I guess we'll see. All I know is I am seeing lots of posts online of people literally breaking up because of the election and almost all of them are because the male in the relationship voted for Trump and it makes me laugh. Young people today are painful, and I expect this trend to likely be a non-story by years end. Not all men are bad, in fact the vast majority of men are decent people. The same can be said to counter the Incels. Not all women are bad, or evil and most are decent people. How about, instead of taking such extreme measures, instead make some better choices when dating. Not everyone is an asshole, and we've got to stop pretending they are because the internet tells us they are. I'd almost suggest, regardless of being either man or woman, if you've had a series of extremely problematic relationships, then you're likely part of, if not the entire problem. Blaming the entire opposite sex is incredibly stupid. This goes back to Gen Z and dating. I'm a Millennial, and I met my wife at 26. I had 2 girlfriends in my early 20s before that, a few in high school and maybe dated or went out with or hooked up with enough girls to figure out what I do and don't like and, what I will and won't accept in the relationship. Those relationships ended or barely started because one of us didn't see a future with the other. And that can be difficult, and that sucks. It's not always fun and doesn't always feel great. But to quote Blink-182, Well, I guess this is growing up. Not everything is a " red flag " or needs to be " called out " and I hate those articles in MSM that just seek to stir up outrage on social media, and it goes back to my peeve about this generation having to trendify everything and project blame. I sort of mostly agree, even if it's a bit anecdotal in scope. The libertarian side of me just does not give a fuck who you fuck, why you fuck them, and especially why you don't. All of those reasons are yours alone. So long as it's not a punitive behavior that encroaches on one's contest ==> go do you. The common sense caveat being of course that ethics still shape the world around us and accountability should also matter as well. And I do think there's some merit behind the core ideas of intersectionality, specifically observing societal patterns and pressures that affect us all --- But compartmentalization can only take you so far. Most of these ideologies lack the ability or desire for adaptability when needed. I just think we should all start with the idea that we're human first - not just an obstacle that was born to be subjugated or a scourge to be avoided at all costs - and run with the ball from there.
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Post by KJ on Nov 11, 2024 5:37:31 GMT
Young people today are painful, and I expect this trend to likely be a non-story by years end. Not all men are bad, in fact the vast majority of men are decent people. The same can be said to counter the Incels. Not all women are bad, or evil and most are decent people. How about, instead of taking such extreme measures, instead make some better choices when dating. Not everyone is an asshole, and we've got to stop pretending they are because the internet tells us they are. I'd almost suggest, regardless of being either man or woman, if you've had a series of extremely problematic relationships, then you're likely part of, if not the entire problem. Blaming the entire opposite sex is incredibly stupid. This goes back to Gen Z and dating. I'm a Millennial, and I met my wife at 26. I had 2 girlfriends in my early 20s before that, a few in high school and maybe dated or went out with or hooked up with enough girls to figure out what I do and don't like and, what I will and won't accept in the relationship. Those relationships ended or barely started because one of us didn't see a future with the other. And that can be difficult, and that sucks. It's not always fun and doesn't always feel great. But to quote Blink-182, Well, I guess this is growing up. Not everything is a " red flag " or needs to be " called out " and I hate those articles in MSM that just seek to stir up outrage on social media, and it goes back to my peeve about this generation having to trendify everything and project blame. I sort of mostly agree, even if it's a bit anecdotal in scope. The libertarian side of me just does not give a fuck who you fuck, why you fuck them, and especially why you don't. All of those reasons are yours alone. So long as it's not a punitive behavior that encroaches on one's contest ==> go do you. The common sense caveat being of course that ethics still shape the world around us and accountability should also matter as well. And I do think there's some merit behind the core ideas of intersectionality, specifically observing societal patterns and pressures that affect us all --- But compartmentalization can only take you so far. Most of these ideologies lack the ability or desire for adaptability when needed. I just think we should all start with the idea that we're human first - not just an obstacle that was born to be subjugated or a scourge to be avoided at all costs - and run with the ball from there. I’ll break to the right (again) … Casual sex is one of the reasons our culture is absolute shit.
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Post by iNCY on Nov 11, 2024 5:39:40 GMT
Women choosing to sit out of the dating pool while their dating collateral is at unmatched highs is a hell of a self goal. It is also so strange to see the hysteria online, which seems unmatched to the actual reality in any state. I would be happy to be corrected on the second point, if there are examples of women unable to access medical services.It also seems unlikely Biden lets Harris become the 47th President, looking at Jill Biden's reactions it seems pretty clear that she hates Kamala's guts. Not interested in a pedantic mudslinging about reproductive rights with anyone here necessarily. I'd be remiss not admitting that, (my principles on bodily autonomy aside) abortion is a bit of a paradox. But I can understand this proliferation, too. It's a pretty human reaction to want to take more control of your body when the society around you seems hellbent on dominion over it and sexual assault is always a very real threat to consider. Certainly holds more water than co-opted MGTOW nonsense, though I wouldn't be shocked either if this too became bereft of its original message and further embraced the circus. I don't really understand the "my body, my choice" cry as if it is some sort of defining piece of law. The government is happy to legislate what drugs you can take, whether you wear a seatbelt or not. There are standards over whether someone can be naked in public. I was forced to get vaccinated for Covid 19 or be excluded from society... The idea that a baby inside it's mothers womb should be immune to legal protection at "some" to be determined stage of the pregnancy is confusing to me. If an abusive man kicked his partner and she miscarried as a result, I would believe that should be Murder 2 at the minimum. I also think the story you posted is one that highlights medical malpractice not abortion laws.
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Post by rad on Nov 11, 2024 5:51:14 GMT
’ll break to the right (again) … Casual sex is one of the reasons our culture is absolute shit. I wouldn't even fully disagree to some extent. My apprehension more stems from that line of thinking often devolving into an oppressive purity culture to overcompensate for the love childs of Free Love. Which is why we're at where we're at (or about to be even sooner, potentially) in the first place.
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Post by NATH45 on Nov 11, 2024 6:16:09 GMT
I sort of mostly agree, even if it's a bit anecdotal in scope. The libertarian side of me just does not give a fuck who you fuck, why you fuck them, and especially why you don't. All of those reasons are yours alone. So long as it's not a punitive behavior that encroaches on one's contest ==> go do you. The common sense caveat being of course that ethics still shape the world around us and accountability should also matter as well. And I do think there's some merit behind the core ideas of intersectionality, specifically observing societal patterns and pressures that affect us all --- But compartmentalization can only take you so far. Most of these ideologies lack the ability or desire for adaptability when needed. I just think we should all start with the idea that we're human first - not just an obstacle that was born to be subjugated or a scourge to be avoided at all costs - and run with the ball from there. I’ll break to the right (again) … Casual sex is one of the reasons our culture is absolute shit. I'd almost agree, but argue, respectfully, it's probably the opposite. Casual sex, isn't the issue, it's how it's now achieved in the modern age. Dating apps have taken the concept - or challenge - of dating and courtship out of the equation. Social Media, influencers, Porn and even LinkedIn have given both sexes unrealistic expectations when looking for a partner. There's incredibly high beauty standards for women, and even so, a lot of women themselves are looking for a man in finance, trust fund, 6'5", blue eyes.. yes, it's a generalisation, get over it. Then every time you fail or life doesn't work out like the movies, there's an echo bubble working over time to pull you in and before you know it, if you're a man you're watching Andrew Tate videos about what masculinity is meant to look like, or if you're a woman, you're subscribing to some ex-pinga rat running in her new wellness mummy gimmick. Either way, it's not healthy. Again, a generalisation. Get over it. Those lessons learned when you're in the trenches, can't be taught in a perpetually online culture.
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Post by rad on Nov 11, 2024 6:57:40 GMT
Texas Woman Dies after being denied miscarriage care due to Abortion BanNot interested in a pedantic mudslinging about reproductive rights with anyone here necessarily. I'd be remiss not admitting that, (my principles on bodily autonomy aside) abortion is a bit of a paradox. But I can understand this proliferation, too. It's a pretty human reaction to want to take more control of your body when the society around you seems hellbent on dominion over it and sexual assault is always a very real threat to consider. Certainly holds more water than co-opted MGTOW nonsense, though I wouldn't be shocked either if this too became bereft of its original message and further embraced the circus. I don't really understand the "my body, my choice" cry as if it is some sort of defining piece of law. The government is happy to legislate what drugs you can take, whether you wear a seatbelt or not. There are standards over whether someone can be naked in public. I was forced to get vaccinated for Covid 19 or be excluded from society... The idea that a baby inside it's mothers womb should be immune to legal protection at "some" to be determined stage of the pregnancy is confusing to me. If an abusive man kicked his partner and she miscarried as a result, I would believe that should be Murder 2 at the minimum. I also think the story you posted is one that highlights medical malpractice not abortion laws. I'll try not to act like I'm on elevated moral high ground or that I have all the answers about this issue: I do struggle with the idea of sacrificing one autonomy for the sake of another's. A clump of cells, while not yet a human yes, does still have the capacity to become one if we're being intellectually honest and setting other factors aside. It's not like it isn't a moral dilemma for me. I do wish there was a better solution/system available to us to ensure that both parties were equally protected, because navigating a defense for one just to compensate for the severity of the other is a real quagmire (giggity) and I'd much prefer to have more even footing on it. I just really also don't want to force a woman against her will for something so consequential and life-changing, either. I know this is more within the realm of sci-fi (and maybe too much wishful thinking), but I'd love for us to be able to develop some kind of tech (as unobtrusive as possible, hopefully as simple as a routine checkup) that could somehow transfer the fetus over into some form of incubation pod or a medically cleared, consenting surrogate.
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Post by sandylea on Nov 11, 2024 13:19:24 GMT
I’ve only seen women posting about someone saying it to them, or a fake account commenting. I haven’t seen anyone who has a real account post on it or something that can be 100% proven. I’m not saying it hasn’t happened because some people are legit pieces of shit, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if at least 50% of it is made up for attention/just to fit in with the crowd while it’s relevant. Though I’ve only seen videos of clearly unhinged people posting about crying, and not taking the situation seriously either because I haven’t actively looked for it. I have definitely seen a few accounts post, that even if you decide to keep sex from your partner, they have the right to sex even if you don’t want it - and oh boy, I hope they die in a fire. This type of BS commenting has been happening for awhile though, and I don’t think it’s at all tied to the election
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Post by KING KID on Nov 11, 2024 13:22:48 GMT
I’m just here to say nothing is wrong with casual sex. It’s not so casual sex that’s awkward.
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Post by sandylea on Nov 11, 2024 13:22:49 GMT
Hypothetically speaking, had Biden been in the race, do you think he would’ve done better or worse than Harris in the election? Definitely better. I think them trying to say he wasn’t well enough to run again but was well enough to still be president majorly backfired. Where if they just convinced everyone he was still healthy and backed him continuously - I reckon he would have done much better than her but not sure if he would have won or not.
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Post by KING KID on Nov 11, 2024 13:23:52 GMT
Hypothetically speaking, had Biden been in the race, do you think he would’ve done better or worse than Harris in the election? They already said internal polls with Trump vs Biden had Trump winning with 400 electoral votes and that’s the real reason they booted him out.
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Post by KING KID on Nov 11, 2024 13:51:54 GMT
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Post by KING KID on Nov 11, 2024 13:56:01 GMT
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Post by KING KID on Nov 11, 2024 16:18:32 GMT
Bitcoin flying.
DOGE flying.
America is thriving!
MAGA! 🇺🇸
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Post by Gyro LC on Nov 11, 2024 17:19:41 GMT
I'll try not to act like I'm on elevated moral high ground or that I have all the answers about this issue: I do struggle with the idea of sacrificing one autonomy for the sake of another's. A clump of cells, while not yet a human yes, does still have the capacity to become one if we're being intellectually honest and setting other factors aside. It's not like it isn't a moral dilemma for me. I do wish there was a better solution/system available to us to ensure that both parties were equally protected, because navigating a defense for one just to compensate for the severity of the other is a real quagmire (giggity) and I'd much prefer to have more even footing on it. I just really also don't want to force a woman against her will for something so consequential and life-changing, either. Abortion is usually the least bad option in a terrible situation. I don't think most women are getting abortions willy-nilly. It's typically an agonizing decision.
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Post by Gyro LC on Nov 11, 2024 18:17:14 GMT
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