Nov 11, 2024 13:23:52 GMT KING KID said:

Nov 11, 2024 3:47:02 GMT CM Punk'd said:

Hypothetically speaking, had Biden been in the race, do you think he would’ve done better or worse than Harris in the election?

They already said internal polls with Trump vs Biden had Trump winning with 400 electoral votes and that’s the real reason they booted him out. 

There it is.

I wonder what the narrative from The Left would be if this where the reality.

Nov 11, 2024 18:41:06 GMT NATH45 said:

Nov 11, 2024 13:23:52 GMT KING KID said:

They already said internal polls with Trump vs Biden had Trump winning with 400 electoral votes and that’s the real reason they booted him out. 

There it is.

I wonder what the narrative from The Left would be if this were the reality.

“He should’ve dropped out and let Kamala run! She’d beat him! She checks all the DEI boxes!” 

Where now for Obama and his constant meddling?

Is it time to just go away?

Nov 11, 2024 21:03:24 GMT NATH45 said:

Where now for Obama and his constant meddling?

Is it time to just go away?

No? I don't quite get that line of thinking.

Nov 11, 2024 17:19:41 GMT Gyro LC said:

Nov 11, 2024 6:57:40 GMT rad said:

I'll try not to act like I'm on elevated moral high ground or that I have all the answers about this issue: I do struggle with the idea of sacrificing one autonomy for the sake of another's. A clump of cells, while not yet a human yes, does still have the capacity to become one if we're being intellectually honest and setting other factors aside. It's not like it isn't a moral dilemma for me. I do wish there was a better solution/system available to us to ensure that both parties were equally protected, because navigating a defense for one just to compensate for the severity of the other is a real quagmire (giggity) and I'd much prefer to have more even footing on it.

I just really also don't want to force a woman against her will for something so consequential and life-changing, either.

Abortion is usually the least bad option in a terrible situation. I don't think most women are getting abortions willy-nilly. It's typically an agonizing decision.

Agreed, that is where I ultimately land since no better option is available. I should have admittedly emphasized that more succinctly at the end of my post.

Also wasn't trying to imply it's an easy decision, it's dishonest and cruel when people suggest otherwise.

Part of the disconnect too is that I'm not a woman either, nor someone who desires having children.

Nov 11, 2024 21:38:40 GMT rad said:

Nov 11, 2024 17:19:41 GMT Gyro LC said:

Abortion is usually the least bad option in a terrible situation. I don't think most women are getting abortions willy-nilly. It's typically an agonizing decision.

Agreed, that is where I ultimately land since no better option is available. I should have admittedly emphasized that more succinctly at the end of my post.

Also wasn't trying to imply it's an easy decision, it's dishonest and cruel when people suggest otherwise.

Part of the disconnect too is that I'm not a woman either, nor someone who desires having children.

How old are you? Why do you not desire to have children? It is the single greatest thing in the world to have a child. 

Nov 11, 2024 21:29:14 GMT KJ said:

Nov 11, 2024 21:03:24 GMT NATH45 said:

Where now for Obama and his constant meddling?

Is it time to just go away?

No? I don't quite get that line of thinking.

Well, any number of articles on the topic suggests Obama rolled Biden twice to install his friends - two awful candidates in Clinton and Harris.

Obama is Michael Jordan. Great player, terrible GM.

Nov 11, 2024 22:11:02 GMT NATH45 said:

Nov 11, 2024 21:29:14 GMT KJ said:

No? I don't quite get that line of thinking.

Well, any number of articles on the topic suggests Obama rolled Biden twice to install his friends - two awful candidates in Clinton and Harris.

Seems like those stories are revisionist history out of Bidenworld, not really based in much but spite over pretending he would’ve won the election.

Can’t speak to the Clinton thing, was always of the impression Biden himself made the choice because of his son’s death. One of the great what ifs in political history. This month is the first time in 8 years I’ve ever heard President Obama blamed for that one.

But until this week where I saw some article I had never heard a suggestion that the Obamas were friendly with Harris. When she became the presumptive nominee they were one of the last ones to jump out and endorse her, I know at the time it was rumored that they didn’t want Biden or Harris as nominee.

Nov 11, 2024 23:02:58 GMT mikec said:

was always of the impression Biden himself made the choice because of his son’s death

I recall reading years ago that Obama really wanted Biden to sit it out because of his son's death. Maybe both are true.

The Whitehouse often flips after two terms of one party but Biden had a decent chance if he would have run. When you think about it, Trump had advantageous brackets - first against two terms of Dem and a deeply unlikeable female Dem, then against an female emergency replacement. He lost against a seasoned, charismatic male opponent.

Nov 11, 2024 21:59:00 GMT KING KID said:

Nov 11, 2024 21:38:40 GMT rad said:

Agreed, that is where I ultimately land since no better option is available. I should have admittedly emphasized that more succinctly at the end of my post.

Also wasn't trying to imply it's an easy decision, it's dishonest and cruel when people suggest otherwise.

Part of the disconnect too is that I'm not a woman either, nor someone who desires having children.

How old are you? Why do you not desire to have children? It is the single greatest thing in the world to have a child. 

I'm glad that it gives you meaning and purpose, Kid. That's awesome.

But I'm not getting into this game of presumptions with anyone of you anymore after the last time I opened up about it on here. My reasons are my own damn business. I didn't come here to preach a gospel of anti-natalism, so let's leave it at that.

Nov 11, 2024 23:36:46 GMT rad said:

Nov 11, 2024 21:59:00 GMT KING KID said:

How old are you? Why do you not desire to have children? It is the single greatest thing in the world to have a child. 

I'm glad that it gives you meaning and purpose, Kid. That's awesome.

But I'm not getting into this game of presumptions with anyone of you anymore after the last time I opened up about it on here. My reasons are my own damn business. I didn't come here to preach a gospel of anti-natalism, so let's leave it at that.

I was genuinely asking. If it’s none of my business, then it’s none of my business. I do stand by having a child being the greatest thing life can give. 

Nov 11, 2024 23:49:50 GMT KING KID said:

Nov 11, 2024 23:36:46 GMT rad said:

I'm glad that it gives you meaning and purpose, Kid. That's awesome.

But I'm not getting into this game of presumptions with anyone of you anymore after the last time I opened up about it on here. My reasons are my own damn business. I didn't come here to preach a gospel of anti-natalism, so let's leave it at that.

I was genuinely asking. If it’s none of my business, then it’s none of my business. I do stand by having a child being the greatest thing life can give. 

As a dad, I agree.

But I also think if you personally don’t want kids, having them is the last thing you should do.

Nothing worse than kids being an obligation and not a blessing.

Nov 11, 2024 23:02:58 GMT mikec said:

Nov 11, 2024 22:11:02 GMT NATH45 said:

Well, any number of articles on the topic suggests Obama rolled Biden twice to install his friends - two awful candidates in Clinton and Harris.

Seems like those stories are revisionist history out of Bidenworld, not really based in much but spite over pretending he would’ve won the election.

Can’t speak to the Clinton thing, was always of the impression Biden himself made the choice because of his son’s death. One of the great what ifs in political history. This month is the first time in 8 years I’ve ever heard President Obama blamed for that one.

But until this week where I saw some article I had never heard a suggestion that the Obamas were friendly with Harris. When she became the presumptive nominee they were one of the last ones to jump out and endorse her, I know at the time it was rumored that they didn’t want Biden or Harris as nominee.

They've been in each other's orbits for years.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj08mn24jplo.amp

Nov 11, 2024 23:02:58 GMT mikec said:

But until this week where I saw some article I had never heard a suggestion that the Obamas were friendly with Harris. When she became the presumptive nominee they were one of the last ones to jump out and endorse her, I know at the time it was rumored that they didn’t want Biden or Harris as nominee.

I don't blame them. I think they knew what most of us knew, that if the Dems went with either Biden or Harris they were going to lose. Sure we hoped, but I think most of us here called it months ago.

Curious to see who buys InfoWars

apnews.com/article/alex-jones-infowars-bankruptcy-sandy-hook-0c80a1293f4b902e32ea7818844dc507

Nov 12, 2024 0:55:59 GMT NATH45 said:

Nov 11, 2024 23:02:58 GMT mikec said:

Seems like those stories are revisionist history out of Bidenworld, not really based in much but spite over pretending he would’ve won the election.

Can’t speak to the Clinton thing, was always of the impression Biden himself made the choice because of his son’s death. One of the great what ifs in political history. This month is the first time in 8 years I’ve ever heard President Obama blamed for that one.

But until this week where I saw some article I had never heard a suggestion that the Obamas were friendly with Harris. When she became the presumptive nominee they were one of the last ones to jump out and endorse her, I know at the time it was rumored that they didn’t want Biden or Harris as nominee.

They've been in each other's orbits for years.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj08mn24jplo.amp

Very few of those examples would be unusual for a party’s leader and a Democratic candidate in California, and some are presumptive. The nominee is likely not handpicking the order of Convention speakers for instance. With these connections, President Obama ran in a lot of orbits.

I did find an article from when Biden stepped aside that said he and Biden had problems from Obama “quietly supporting Clinton” in 2016, but Biden’s still silly there if he thinks that’s the reason he didn’t win in 2016. He made his choice not to run, i think he would have likely won the primary.

GOP completes the trifecta by officially holding onto the House thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4974235-house-republicans-control-majority/
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Big day in MAGAland with immigration hardliners Stephen Miller named deputy chief of Staff and Tom Homan appointed to Kamala's 'border czar' role. Meanwhile, MAGA world has coalesced behind "The Man Who Turned Florida Red" Rick Scott rescueamerica.com/12-point-plan/ over John Thune & John Cornyn in a 3 way race to become new Senate leader. I endorse all these moves.

I'm no economist. ECON 101 was a quarter century ago and I can't even remember whether or not I took ECON 102: The Dismal Science. What I do remember is inflation being low during the Trump years and skyrocketing under Biden's watch. So today I decided to once again check out exactly what those numbers were...

www.investopedia.com/us-inflation-rate-by-president-8546447

For lazy people, inflation under Trump with tariffs was 1.9%, the 2nd lowest rate (behind Obama) since JFK. Inflation under Biden was 5.2% as of September, the highest rate since Carter. I'll stick with the guy who got the job done the first time. Here is another article which is a little more big picture if you're interested...

www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2024/11/01/how-the-economy-really-fared-under-bidenharris-and-trump-from-jobs-to-inflation-final-update/

And like I wrote the other day, IF inflation gets out of control again a lot of the people who swung to Trump in this election will swing right back to the Dems during the midterms. 

One of you asked what I want to see done with the bureaucracy. The man himself has laid it out in these two videos...







*There is only one thing I disagree with here and even that might just be a matter of semantics

This aptly named B Movement is destined to fail. Here's why...

While I may not recall every detail from ECON 101, I do remember a very valuable piece of information my friend Lisa gave me around that same time- "women want and enjoy sex as much as men do." I have found this to be true over the years (I'm really quite beta! It has usually been the women who initiated with me. tmi?). Most of the women in this B Movement will melt the first time Chad comes along. Only the hardcore radfem misandrists will stick with it, growing ever more miserable in the process. Biology remains undefeated.

Prediction: Nobody even remembers this movement by 2026. And even on the off chance I do happen to be wrong, that just means Republicans/normal people will be outbreeding lunatic leftists. Oh no! How terrible.

Even the Grauniad is admitting it with a chef's kiss of a headline  www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/10/donald-trump-the-left-social-media-rightwing-propaganda-progressives-woke
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One of you asked "how isolationist do I want the US to be?" and honestly hardcore geopolitical analysis is well above my paygrade, so my basic simpleton answer is just "a little less than we have been?"
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Another poster said this thread is 75% vibes. Bruh, where you been? Politics is like 90% vibes. Always has been.
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Blindy never let it be said that I am unfair. Props to AOC for this...

www.tiktok.com/@aoc/video/7436061115609582879

Saw another clip of her asking which accounts her split ticket voters follow and what podcasts they listen to. AOC redpill redemption arc incoming?

Nov 12, 2024 1:50:20 GMT System said:

Curious to see who buys InfoWars

apnews.com/article/alex-jones-infowars-bankruptcy-sandy-hook-0c80a1293f4b902e32ea7818844dc507

www.snopes.com/fact-check/alex-jones-trump-press-secretary/

brb after I meme this into reality.

Nov 12, 2024 2:47:14 GMT Baker said:

One of you asked what I want to see done with the bureaucracy. The man himself has laid it out in these two videos...







*There is only one thing I disagree with here and even that might just be a matter of semantics

Wasn’t me, but I did drop a few questions (two pages back) I’d love to hear your thoughts on.

Marco Rubio Secretary of State.

Hope he’s improved from his sweating and huffing days.

Kamala Harris Celebrity “Endorsement” Pay:
Beyonce- $10M for endorsement
Megan The Stallion- $5M for endorsement
Lizzo- $3M for endorsement
Eminem- $1.8M for endorsement


First of all, how the fuck are Megan and Lizzo being paid more than Eminem? Second of all, who the fuck campaigns by paying musicians?! Whoever the fuck was running that campaign should be black balled from ever working in this field again. No fucking wonder they’re 20M in debt. 🤣

Don't forget $1m for Oprah, well, her production company.

Am I getting this right? Your politicians pay celebrities for their endorsements?

I don't care which side it's for, if a celebrity wants to endorse a candidate, they should do so without being paid. If they perform...maybe, but again I think that should be considered a 'donation' to the campaign.

Whelp, he announced he’s officially eliminating the Department of Education when he takes office.

My son utilizes those services due to his autism, but seeing as how that the special education department is funded by the DOE, I’m assuming we’re out of luck there.

That’s my selfish issue. The larger overhauls for poor students and poor areas will be catastrophic.

Economy and schools. The two areas where he’ll just fuck the country over.

Another fun fact I learned …

Autism is considered a pre-existing medical condition, so if the ACA goes away, insurance companies can decline any coverage for my son’s treatment.