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Post by iNCY on Apr 13, 2024 14:35:56 GMT
Over the past few years here I have been accused of being alt right, a boot licker of Trump and all manner of nasty things. Whatever, I have thick skin.
If you don't want to watch the whole video, just watch the last minute. Maher doesn't realise it yet, but like Musk and Rogan he's a traditional left wing voter who now finds himself centre right without moving at all.
The statistics on crime in Scandinavia are horiffic. When I saw the pro Gaza protests in London with hundreds of thousands of Muslims praying in the streets it was worrying.
Now it looks like we are seeing the first signs of the pendulum of public opinion starting to swing back... But it may be too late.
My hottest take is that the sign of a weak mind is someone more concerned with finding the consensus and aligning to it rather than evaluating the facts.
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Post by NATH45 on Apr 13, 2024 21:33:25 GMT
A. Hard times create strong men.
B. Strong men create good times.
C. Good times create weak men.
[ we are here]
D. And, weak men create hard times.
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That's where we are. We are watching a society and a generation eat itself alive.
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Post by KJ on Apr 14, 2024 1:05:43 GMT
A. Hard times create strong men. B. Strong men create good times. C. Good times create weak men. [ we are here] D. And, weak men create hard times. --- That's where we are. We are watching a society and a generation eat itself alive. I’m a 39-year-old millennial, and I blame my generation’s parents first and foremost. They really introduced the culture of “you’re special,” everyone gets a trophy, and helicopter parenting. My generation is amplifying it, and Gen Z (parented by Gen X) is completely hopeless when it comes to dealing with … any challenge, let alone an inconvenience. This isn’t a political issue. Parents on both sides embody this through different ways, whether it’s supporting the manic delusions of the trans movement on the left or burning books because “think of the children!” I can’t help but feel we’re absolutely fucked.
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Post by UT on Apr 14, 2024 1:25:25 GMT
I’m in line with Maher and have been for awhile. Democrat has lost all meaning it once had. I can’t align myself with those nuts - and the far other side is just as crazy.
Sadly the far left nut bags IMO produced the insanity that is Donald Trump and MAGA nation.
It can really be difficult to parent these days and try to teach your kids the gray areas when they are constantly only given black and white options and pressured to pick a side.
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Post by NATH45 on Apr 14, 2024 1:30:50 GMT
I've often said we are so privileged in the Western world and have been for so long, we're at a point now without any real threat. We're so privileged, we're so bored. And that boredom leads to finding offence in everything, regardless of what side of politics we're on.
We've got people living such privileged lives casting themselves as victims, not because a war is being fought on their doorstep, or from prosecution or oppression or because there isn't any food or water to keep them alive, they're victims because someone used words they didn't like. Because words are violence.
Give me a break.
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Post by KJ on Apr 14, 2024 1:41:03 GMT
I’m in line with Maher and have been for awhile. Democrat has lost all meaning it once had. I can’t align myself with those nuts - and the far other side is just as crazy. Sadly the far left nut bags IMO produced the insanity that is Donald Trump and MAGA nation.
It can really be difficult to parent these days and try to teach your kids the gray areas when they are constantly only given black and white options and pressured to pick a side. I don't think that's true. They certainly give them new material, but it was a black man in the White House first and foremost that created the movement today.
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Post by c on Apr 14, 2024 1:44:13 GMT
That is the reality most do not want to talk about. MAGA was spawned from the insane backlash in the US to the first black president. Many here did not hesitate to call him the n-gger president.
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Post by UT on Apr 14, 2024 1:48:02 GMT
I’m in line with Maher and have been for awhile. Democrat has lost all meaning it once had. I can’t align myself with those nuts - and the far other side is just as crazy. Sadly the far left nut bags IMO produced the insanity that is Donald Trump and MAGA nation.
It can really be difficult to parent these days and try to teach your kids the gray areas when they are constantly only given black and white options and pressured to pick a side. I don't think that's true. They certainly give them new material, but it was a black man in the White House first and foremost that created the movement today. I don’t know. Trump came onto the scene as one of the most brash and obscene “politicians” of the modern era and thrived on that and rode it all the way to presidency. For everyone sick of the overly politically correct absurdly liberal left - they seen Trump as a beacon of light and as their ultimate spokesperson.
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Post by KJ on Apr 14, 2024 1:48:03 GMT
That is the reality most do not want to talk about. MAGA was spawned from the insane backlash in the US to the first black president. Many here did not hesitate to call him the n-gger president. Yeah they did. Was horrible in the entire build-up to 2008. I was just stepping back as a mod in the run-up and was banning folks a lot for it.
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Post by KJ on Apr 14, 2024 1:49:35 GMT
I don't think that's true. They certainly give them new material, but it was a black man in the White House first and foremost that created the movement today. I don’t know. Trump came onto the scene as one of the most brash and obscene “politicians” of the modern era and thrived on that and rode it all the way to presidency. For everyone sick of the overly politically correct absurdly liberal left - they seen Trump as a beacon of light and as their ultimate spokesperson. Trump and MAGA are the evolution of the Tea Party movement, which was 100% linked to Obama. But aside from that, Trump was the prominent non-politican promoting the birther theory, which is what firmly entrenched him as a right-wing darling (and noted conspiracy peddler).
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Post by c on Apr 14, 2024 1:56:59 GMT
Most of the political correctness shit was simply made-up by Fox, taking small local stories and trying to present them as if they were national democratic policy. Like how many times did they use a tiny liberal college that has less than 1000 students as the source of their crap?
The days of people sending out hate and expecting to not be checked on it are over though. Social media made it easy to call out people, and it now bleed into real life. People are still free to make whatever hateful comments they want, but they need to be prepared for people to react to them. Call someone a n-gger or say women are useful on their knees and you should expect consequences.
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Post by UT on Apr 14, 2024 1:57:46 GMT
I don’t know. Trump came onto the scene as one of the most brash and obscene “politicians” of the modern era and thrived on that and rode it all the way to presidency. For everyone sick of the overly politically correct absurdly liberal left - they seen Trump as a beacon of light and as their ultimate spokesperson. Trump and MAGA are the evolution of the Tea Party movement, which was 100% linked to Obama. But aside from that, Trump was the prominent non-politican promoting the birther theory, which is what firmly entrenched him as a right-wing darling (and noted conspiracy peddler). I don’t think they ever had an ounce of the power over the country or voters that came when Trump and maga started with came as a direct rebuttal to the far lefts not only social beliefs but also their arrogance and smugness towards the right wing voters. The Tea Party might have planted the seeds but I don’t think it would have evolved to anything without the far left being as crazy and holier than thou they became and all that was highlighted by Hilary calling them deplorables which bit her in the ass and even further galvanized MAGANation then they turned it into a rallying cry.
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Post by c on Apr 14, 2024 1:59:20 GMT
Question is why is anyone taking the far left seriously? Liberals sure as fuck do not. Biden just told them just today he does not want them to vote for him. Like only Fox gives any real time to the far left, the actual left considers them idiotic children.
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Post by UT on Apr 14, 2024 1:59:38 GMT
Most of the political correctness shit was simply made-up by Fox, taking small local stories and trying to present them as if they were national democratic policy. Like how many times did they use a tiny liberal college that has less than 1000 students as the source of their crap? The days of people sending out hate and expecting to not be checked on it are over though. Social media made it easy to call out people, and it now bleed into real life. People are still free to make whatever hateful comments they want, but they need to be prepared for people to react to them. Call someone a n-gger or say women are useful on their knees and you should expect consequences. Okay poster boy.
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Post by c on Apr 14, 2024 2:00:54 GMT
If you think I am far left, you do not really know your politics or what the far left actually is.
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Post by KJ on Apr 14, 2024 2:03:19 GMT
Trump and MAGA are the evolution of the Tea Party movement, which was 100% linked to Obama. But aside from that, Trump was the prominent non-politican promoting the birther theory, which is what firmly entrenched him as a right-wing darling (and noted conspiracy peddler). I don’t think they ever had an ounce of the power over the country or voters that came when Trump and maga started with came as a direct rebuttal to the far lefts not only social beliefs but also their arrogance and smugness towards the right wing voters. The Tea Party might have planted the seeds but I don’t think it would have evolved to anything without the far left being as crazy and holier than thou they became and all that was highlighted by Hilary calling them deplorables which bit her in the ass and even further galvanized MAGANation then they turned it into a rallying cry. I think we'll respectfully agree to disagree on this one. The Tea Partiers had an immense influence on Congress, and it was almost a proving ground for talking points that FOX News used and later MAGA adopted. I feel like the Liberals have really lost their mind over the last ~4-5 years. I genuinely can't even remember what was considered super extreme from the left in 2014-2016, because they've pushed the goal posts so far.
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Post by c on Apr 14, 2024 2:06:03 GMT
Largest group of far-left people right now are the Never-Biden Death to America protestors. Kids getting worked over extremely heavily by what appears to be Russian origin propaganda. Have then and your typical anarcho-capitalists on college campuses. If you think I am far left, you all are def not prepared for these kids who support getting rid of congress and the courts, and propping up a left-wing dictatorship.
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Should repost some of the shit I deal with in the discord I talk politics in here where I am considered far right for still planning on voting in Nov.
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Post by UT on Apr 14, 2024 2:11:35 GMT
Largest group of far-left people right now are the Never-Biden Death to America protestors. Kids getting worked over extremely heavily by what appears to be Russian origin propaganda. Have then and your typical anarcho-capitalists on college campuses. If you think I am far left, you all are def not prepared for these kids who support getting rid of congress and the courts, and propping up a left-wing dictatorship. Edit: Should repost some of the shit I deal with in the discord I talk politics in here where I am considered far right for still planning on voting in Nov. Please don’t. I’m talking about the far left in the real world. Not whatever dark corners of the internet you find yourself.
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Post by KJ on Apr 14, 2024 2:12:10 GMT
Largest group of far-left people right now are the Never-Biden Death to America protestors. Kids getting worked over extremely heavily by what appears to be Russian origin propaganda. Have then and your typical anarcho-capitalists on college campuses. If you think I am far left, you all are def not prepared for these kids who support getting rid of congress and the courts, and propping up a left-wing dictatorship. Edit: Should repost some of the shit I deal with in the discord I talk politics in here where I am considered far right for still planning on voting in Nov. I'm not even sure you can define that as far left. That's where the political continuum between far right and far left connect.
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Post by KING KID on Apr 14, 2024 2:13:26 GMT
So I was right all along?
Yup.
What people are ignoring or forgetting is that Obama was the one who started the “race wars”. Let us not forget the lies they spewed on national TV “hands up don’t shoot” “could’ve been my kid”. All proven to be lies. However before it was proven to be lies, they divided the world. Not country, the whole western world. Black vs white. The Rothschilds would be proud. Or maybe they’re still controlling everything.
It’s gotten to the point where calling a white woman “Becky” or “Karen” is okay even though it is clearly racist. Cancelling people for far less or equal things to that is also insane.
Now the left took control of America and people who actually had a brain all along are seeing the light and that is that they’ve been dividing animals the whole time.
The fact we let over 100,000 people into this country without IDs is fucking insane too. However, no feelings were hurt.
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Post by UT on Apr 14, 2024 2:15:30 GMT
So I was right all along? Yup. What people are ignoring or forgetting is that Obama was the one who started the “race wars”. Let us not forget the lies they spewed on national TV “hands up don’t shoot” “could’ve been my kid”. All proven to be lies. However before it was proven to be lies, they divided the world. Not country, the whole western world. Black vs white. The Rothschilds would be proud. Or maybe they’re still controlling everything. It’s gotten to the point where calling a white woman “Becky” or “Karen” is okay even though it is clearly racist. Cancelling people for far less or equal things to that is also insane. Now the left took control of America and people who actually had a brain all along are seeing the light and that is that they’ve been dividing animals the whole time. The fact we let over 100,000 people into this country without IDs is fucking insane too. However, no feelings were hurt. Calm down y’all ain’t any better.
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Post by KING KID on Apr 14, 2024 2:18:21 GMT
So I was right all along? Yup. What people are ignoring or forgetting is that Obama was the one who started the “race wars”. Let us not forget the lies they spewed on national TV “hands up don’t shoot” “could’ve been my kid”. All proven to be lies. However before it was proven to be lies, they divided the world. Not country, the whole western world. Black vs white. The Rothschilds would be proud. Or maybe they’re still controlling everything. It’s gotten to the point where calling a white woman “Becky” or “Karen” is okay even though it is clearly racist. Cancelling people for far less or equal things to that is also insane. Now the left took control of America and people who actually had a brain all along are seeing the light and that is that they’ve been dividing animals the whole time. The fact we let over 100,000 people into this country without IDs is fucking insane too. However, no feelings were hurt. Calm down y’all ain’t any better. Still better though. We have some loons on our side too, but at least we don’t lie like C and say “the right wing made up all this political correctness stuff”.
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Post by c on Apr 14, 2024 2:19:26 GMT
Largest group of far-left people right now are the Never-Biden Death to America protestors. Kids getting worked over extremely heavily by what appears to be Russian origin propaganda. Have then and your typical anarcho-capitalists on college campuses. If you think I am far left, you all are def not prepared for these kids who support getting rid of congress and the courts, and propping up a left-wing dictatorship. Edit: Should repost some of the shit I deal with in the discord I talk politics in here where I am considered far right for still planning on voting in Nov. I'm not even sure you can define that as far left. That's where the political continuum between far right and far left connect. That was my take on it, but nope they consider anarchy left for some reason. Really it is the ultimate far right on most scale of just no government everyman for themselves. As for these people not being in the real world, the Never Biden protestors are appearing in ballots and chanting Death to America at Biden or Biden official appearances. And they are clear, they plan to elect Trump so he can destroy America and send a message to dems that unless they start to deliver on their promises by any means necessary, they will not let them win elections anymore. Do not ask me to justify that logic. Feels like the Bernie Boys all over again where if they cannot have a socialist, they will take Trump instead.
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Post by KING KID on Apr 14, 2024 2:22:02 GMT
Also who called Obama the N word on PW?
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Post by UT on Apr 14, 2024 2:24:02 GMT
Calm down y’all ain’t any better. Still better though. We have some loons on our side too, but at least we don’t lie like C and say “the right wing made up all this political correctness stuff”. No you have the ones who say the Jews have space lasers that control the sun or whatever the fuck it was that MTG said. And C is a robot programmed to search the most obscure left wing websites and regurgitate all the information into unsuspecting message boards around the internet.
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Post by KJ on Apr 14, 2024 2:24:47 GMT
Also who called Obama the N word on PW? Dude it was almost two decades ago. Back when we had hundreds of users and tons of new people constantly.
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Post by c on Apr 14, 2024 2:26:42 GMT
Everyone here is a lot more liberal than some on the old board. Remember the guy that said he would beat his daughter with a belt if she ever brought home a black boyfriend? Think he had a KKK avatar. Went into like detail in it too about how much he hated black people. Took months of him posting the most racist shit to get banned.
Or the countless people that had to be warned about using the term sand n-gger to talk about middern eastern people there post 9-11 when many just wanted to see middle eastern people killed for what they did.
Every election we had to ban people who just lost their fucking minds. I remember some with Bush's second term and some with Obama just going nutty.
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Post by KING KID on Apr 14, 2024 2:28:56 GMT
Still better though. We have some loons on our side too, but at least we don’t lie like C and say “the right wing made up all this political correctness stuff”. No you have the ones who say the Jews have space lasers that control the sun or whatever the fuck it was that MTG said. And C is a robot programmed to search the most obscure left wing websites and regurgitate all the information into unsuspecting message boards around the internet. Yeah whatever that space laser shit is idk anything about it. They’re just as insane as ones wearing nail polish and lip gloss, IMO. I’m just saying I’ve never spoken like that and have always said that the left was heading down this route for awhile but I was called a conspiracy theorist.
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Post by UT on Apr 14, 2024 2:29:58 GMT
Also who called Obama the N word on PW? Dude it was almost two decades ago. Back when we had hundreds of users and tons of new people constantly. It was definitely Merle.
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Post by c on Apr 14, 2024 2:31:02 GMT
Def could have been. But others were freaking out too besides the known trolls. The WWE kids would come out spazzing and get banned after elections.
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